I just ran across this article. Basically is sez that PBM does not contain all the nutrients of the real mccoy. It does make one think...
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It is really going to be interesting to see how all of this plays out for sure. I do not care at all if folks want to eat PBM or shredded cardboard, just does not matter. Not as long as I can still purchase what I want.Last edited by DavidNorcross; July 7, 2021, 05:40 PM.-
I'm in the same boat, I'll even try lots of vegetarian dishes but I WILL NOT try plant based meat. Why do I want to even try something that is supposed to almost taste like what I already like. -
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North Carolina Mike You have pointed out one of the most asked questions of this decade, when did almonds and oats develop nipples?
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I fear that the food industry will slip this s**t into our food more and more without regulation until we don’t know what we are really eating. Scary thing to me really.Comment
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DavidNorcross No one is outlawing meat. There are simply people who like this stuff and surely you believe in their rights too, yes?
The reason for the cartoon should be obvious - every week or two, someone posts this same basic thread and people get all outraged about this stuff existing, despite the fact that none of us have to eat it. -
rickgregory I am not going to debate you this subject so this will be my last post here. However, I will respond to your remarks. If you see my earlier response you will see that I could care less what anyone else eats. And you are right, no one is outlawing meat. Not yet anyway and that is why I choose to not remain silent on this issue. Over the course of time individual rights are and have historically been stripped away and I see this agenda as no different. I hope I am wrong...Last edited by DavidNorcross; July 8, 2021, 04:39 PM. -
And posting every week here is going to safeguard our rights... Because the vegans are coming... Please.
This isn't funny. It's sad. People are different and like different things. It doesn't hurt me that, while I love fish there are people who can't stand fish. Those of you constantly whining about plant-based 'meat' might want to just go get some pulled pork. Speaking of which...Last edited by rickgregory; July 8, 2021, 06:13 PM.
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@Attjack I don't understand why: 1- Tried it, 2- pictures of it, 3- admit it, 4- post the pictures
I would rather eat worms--invasive jumping worms. 😫Comment
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It could be worse. It could be 2022
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I respect the work that food engineers put into PBM. Really.
But I equate those products to something like the drug substitutes used to treat addicts. They satisfy the craving for meat, but not the underlying desire.
Personally, I would like to eat less meat. If I eat meat, I want it be real meat. But if I run across a good recipe for black bean burger, I'm all in!Comment
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I've been as anti-planty-meat as anyone, and saw a comment on FB that made me think about how anti I was...
"Are you angry because you're afraid you might like it?"
Am I? I dunno. I have no interest in eating it. I think that's enough. I don't have to yuck someone else's yum. Even if it's mustard.Comment
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@Ecowper: I am anti because it's false, but so long as they don't label it in a confusing way, I think I shouldn't be harsh or vocal about my opposition without introspection. It's not the same as selling ocean trout as salmon or even tuna, because that's actual deceit. So long as plant based meat stays branded as plant based, I think I can be okay with it, even if I have no interest in eating it.
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To each their own, folks just need to keep it to themselves and mind their own business. In the end, most of us couldn't care less.Last edited by CaptainMike; July 8, 2021, 11:17 AM.Comment
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ecowper "unfortunately, vegans tend to be in the proselytizing camp, not the keep it to yourself camp."
I've no love for most vegans because of that, but no one is coming here and trying to convince us to give up meat. On the contrary, people repeatedly post about it here to...do what? Get attention?
I'm not the market for this stuff, I doubt many of us are. But at this point it's not vegans who are stirring the pot on this, here.
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Go down to Burger King and get an Impossible Whopper. Yea it's so full of lettuce and tomatoes and sauce and pickles and a thick bun that yea, it fools your brain into thinking its a Whopper. But take a bite of the patty by itself. When I want a steak, that patty wouldn't even come close sitting alone on my plate. Not to mention there is no nutritional advantage to it what-so-ever. In fact I'd argue that the sat fat content being virtually the same and since they have to up the salt content for flavor, it's slightly worse for you.
Now for a better, and I'd say closer proximity, is a black bean burger. There's a really good diner here in Houston that serves one. It doesn't claim to be meat, it just stands on its own as an alternative. To be honest I find it to be pretty good for a change of pace. Maybe once or twice a year I eat one. Would I substitute one for a hamburger with real meat, no (unless that was my only alternative).
Again we beat this subject to death. Cows ain't going anywhere anytime soon (and probably not in my lifetime). Just enjoy your beef and let those who want to stuff chemically and genetically altered garbage ladened with animal fat and salt to mask the flavor and give it some mouth feel, have at it.Last edited by Troutman; July 8, 2021, 02:27 PM.Comment
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Attjack brings up a very valid point, "Why wouldn't you try it?".
So tomorrow morning I'm going on a PBM hunt....opps!!!! hunts not the right word....
However, I'm going to go out and buy some PBM and give it a whirl.
I've sat here and voiced my dis-pleasure with PBM every time someone has posted about the subject with no experience on the subject at all.
For those of you who would like to join me this coming Monday will be my cook day only because I don't know how available PBM or what cuts, for lack of a better word, are available.
I'll report back tomorrow on what I have found.
Just remember....a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing....
I'm harmless....teehee.Comment
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I think smokin fool has a great idea! I’d be willing to bet 90% or more of us, including me, have never even tasted plant based meat. I haven’t even tried any of the burgers out there. I am going to join him in a search for something to try. I will also report back what I found. I might even try a couple of different items just to verify if I like it or not. Afterwards, I’m sure I’ll fall in love with it and start my own website. www.amazingfakemeat.com
Anyone care to join us? Hop on board, this could be fun.Last edited by Panhead John; July 8, 2021, 02:31 PM.Comment
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Attjack - Jackfruit is an interest substitute for pulled pork. It's definitely not a 1:1 thing at all. What it is, I think, is a good replacement for pulled pork style things for someone who doesn't eat meat. It's more like a traditional veggie burger... no one ever tried to make those be really like meat, they were just meant for people who didn't eat meat but who wanted a burger.
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When I started this thread, I thought I was just supplying a bit more info on the subject - info that I feel does not make the product(s) sound any better than what I already felt about PBMs.
Now, should you try PBMs? That is a personal decision each person, (and Panhead John ), has to make for themselves, but with what I know, I see no reason to even try them as long as I can get real meats. I do reserve the right to change my mind any time in the future...
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That was kinda my point Panhead John . Everyone gets to decide for themselves.Last edited by RonB; July 8, 2021, 05:10 PM. -
Panhead John I've heard those VS gals is extremely attracted to PBM men but this secret hasn't made TMZ yet.
So we'll get the pick of the litter before TMZ gets the story and other guys hop on the PBM bandwagon.
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Nice going Ron, you caused a near riot. You get the "Drama of the Week" award my friend. Not only that you insultingly exclude poor old Panhead John from the human race (That is a personal decision each person (and Panhead John) has to make).
Now having thought about it, I think this group is always up for a little drama so kudos to you for that and as far as old Panhead being human, well I'll have to contemplate that one for a while but I think he probably qualifies.
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Sorry fellas, I thought we were having a little harmless banter, I'll take my closed mind and wander off somewhere else.Comment
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Fine. Then I’m not gonna let you sleep with any of the Victoria’s Secret Supermodels I’ll get after eating fake meat.
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Sorry PJ, I did have a super model for a girlfriend. She was no longer doing that when we met, but it's what she did. And yes, she was very pretty and a very sweet lady. The stories she told about that line of work might shock you. Beautiful women (and men) in a very ugly business.
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