So I've got this nice prime brisket all trimmed and dry-brining. Inject or not? In the tested recipes section Meathead injects, but the recipe in his book does not. What are the opinions on best results? Also, I think the sound of a rub with some coffee in it sounds nice. Any thoughts or recipes? Thanks!
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My limited experience on CHOICE briskets... inject the flat
Like you, I've been pondering about injecting the sweet 2.99 prime.
I think I've decided not to inject the prime (flat or point), and see what happens.
For now on, I'm going to inject the flats of my Choice. (No need to inject points, in my opinion).
Interested to see what others think!
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I've not yet found a prime locally but when I do I'll not inject the first one so I can see how it turns out and to compare to one if/when I do inject. I'm a big fan of Big Bad Beef Rub on brisket and chuck roasts.
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Eric's Smoked Texas Chili
Rancho Gordo Beans and Bean Club
Troutman's Ribs - Step By Step Primer
Grilled Pork Chops: Harissa Marinade
Light My (Hasty Bake) Fire
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I do not inject prime briskets. They come out great without injecting. My method is a combination of Meathead's and Aaron Franklin's. I trim and dry brine the day before. But the day of, no injections, no fancy rubs ... just the meat, some pepper and garlic powder and then onto the smoker it goes.
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I gave up injecting. Too much of a mess, not enough benefit. I have tried the various types of injections from apple juice to phosphate laden commercial injections. I don't notice a difference. The meat is still tender and juicy.
If your buying Prime, you certainly don't need to inject. Just my 2 cents.
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I injected my last choice packer, just to see what it would do. Previously I had injected a pork shoulder with a highly rated commercial preparation and really did not care for the taste at all (maybe it was the pork???) Anyway, lots of good reviews on injecting briskets so I decided to try it. Injected mostly the flat using a well known commercial product (same company, different product) and it seemed to work fine. It was a very long cook, perhaps because the brisket was big enough it wouldn't fit well in my BGE so I did it in my COS, and even heavily modified, it was still a COS & a chilly evening. Had my Auber set at 275, it cooked at a steady 240 F all night long. Wrapped in paper at about 12 hours (178 F). Don't know if the injection fluid added to the duration of the stall or not but total cook time was 18 hours. End result was an awesome brisket that disappeared very quickly at a church function and got rave reviews. For me, I'll try injecting briskets again, pork butts, maybe not.
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Wusthof Classic Ikon set: 9" carving knive, 2X 8" Chef's Knife, 7" Santoku and three utility knives
Kamikoto Kuro set: 7" Santoku, 6.5" Nakiri, 5" Utility
Amazing Ribs Brazilian Steak knife set
Favorite wine = whatever is currently in the wine rack
Favorite beer = Sam Adams Boston Lager or Shiner Bock
Favorite whisky = Lagavulin Distiller's Edition 16 year old single malt
Best Cookbooks - Meathead's "The Science of Great Barbecue and Grilling", Chris Lilly's "Big Bob Gibson's BBQ Book", Aaron Franklin's "Franklin BBQ"
Cookbooks to check out - Raichlen's "Brisket Chronicles" and anything by Adam Perry Lang.
Current fanboy cookbook - "Chasing Smoke: Cooking Over Fire Around the Levant"
Some Posts in Pitmaster to check out:
Eric's Brisket Method
Eric's Method for Drunken Texas Beans
Stacy's Bouef Bourguignon
Eric's Smoked Texas Chili
Rancho Gordo Beans and Bean Club
Troutman's Ribs - Step By Step Primer
Grilled Pork Chops: Harissa Marinade
Light My (Hasty Bake) Fire
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smokinsteve BBBR is great, you won't be upset about that. Biggest piece of advice I can give you is "stick with your plan and be patient"
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Inject or not inject. Great question! As I have shared here before, I find it difficult to really distinguish subtle differences unless I do a side-by-side test. If it's week to week, other factors come in and make it harder to distinguish with confidence.
I've done two inject vs. non-inject side-by-side brisket tests on choice briskets (I know one round was with regular grocery store choice, and the 2nd may have been with our 1855 upper-choice), then invited people over to do blind tests.
Wanna guess on the results?
Yep, the injected briskets were preferred, having better moisture in the flat as the most noticed difference. It was not a huge difference, but it was noticeable and preferred. The cheaper briskets needed the help even more (and maybe it helped when I overcooked them, to keep some more moisture in there).
For the last 18 months plus I've found a way to get the 1855 Upper choice, and in the past 6 months Prime CAB briskets, and, well, it's been a while, 9 months??, since I've injected a brisket. It's more work and I've just run low on time to get these cooks done, and brisket takes a lot of time on the pit to tend a great fire, wrap when the bark is dark, render the fat to perfection and pull them at the right time. So I've let injection just stay in the, now, large injection supplies box.
It's on my list to do a 36+ hour dry-brine vs. injection side-by-side test. I'll get there!
Do a side-by-side, smokinsteve ! And have fun!
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