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Just some BGE advice. Get that sucker up to about 500, then clamp down the vents to about 1/8" and let it come down to 225. Because of the insulation of the ceramic, once it hits target it will be extremely stable. If 1/8" doesn't do it, just keep nicking them closed little by little until you get the 225.
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- Jul 2014
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- The Poconos, NEPA
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Smoker:
Landmann Smoke Master Series Heavy Duty Barrel Smoker (COS) - With mods including 2 level rack system with pull-out grates
Masterbuilt ThermoTemp XL 40" Vertical Propane Smoker
Weber Smokey Joe with mini-WSM Tamale Pot modification
The Good One Marshall
Gas Grill:
BBQPro (cheap big box store model) Stainless steel 4 burnerswith aftermarket rotisserie.
Brook King Regal S490 Pro
Charcoal Grill:
Weber Smokey Joe Charcoal Grill 14"
Thermometer:
2 x Fireboard 2 with Drive cable and 20 CFM fan and Competition Probe Package
ThermoWorks Mini Instant Read
Lavaworks Thermowand Instant Read
ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S Industrial Infrared Thermometer
ThermoWorks ThermaPen Mk4 x 2
ThermoWorks Thermapen ONE
Govee Bluetooth Thermometer with 6 probes
Miscellaneous:
Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - 1st generation
Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - wifi/bluetooth connected
Favorite Beer:
Anything to the dark side and malty rather than hoppy. Currently liking Yuengling Porter and Newcastle Brown Ale. In a bar or pub I will often default to Guiness
Favorite Spirit:
Bourbon - Eagle Rare for "every day"; Angel's Envy for special occasions, Basil Hayden's, Larceny
Favorite Wine:
Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Super Tuscan Sangiovese (Including Chianti Classico Riserva) Brunello di Montalcino
Favorite Meat(s):
Pork - especially the darker meat. I love spare ribs and anything made from shoulder/butt meat
Chicken - Mainly the dark meat and wings
Beef Ribeye steak
Favorite Cuisine to Cook:
Can't list just one: Indian, Chinese, Thai, West Indian/Carribean, Hispanic/Latin American, Ethiopian, Italian, BBQ
Favorite Cuisine to Eat:
Indian, followed closely by BBQ.
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dew, we need some pics in the What are you cooking thread!
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Doing the Last meal ribs and just wondering if basting during smoking with something like apple juice is needed or not?
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AllenW if I wrap them after about 3 hours, I sometimes I add just a little apple juice (I use Apple wood).
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AllenW If this is the first time you're doing LMR then I would suggest to follow the recipe to the T. Form an opinion from the result and then go to town with changing it if you like. I don't usually baste ribs as it can remove seasoning and usually takes longer to cook. I likes them just the way they are
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- Grew up in New Orleans, 20 years in Texas, 22 years in Mandeville, LA. Now Dallas, TX
My only cooker right now is a big green egg. I've done the spare ribs on it a number of times and a number of different ways. If I am after low and slow dry ribs I figure a minimum of six hours. The Texas crutch can certainly speed things up. I once followed a recipe that called for an hour to an hour and a half at 275°. Then wrap with liquid for an hour to an hour and a half at 275°. They tasted fine but when I pick them up bones fell out. Next time I'll try an hour and a half unwrapped, 30 minutes wrapped, and a half hour unwrapped. That might meet your time constraints.
As for heat fluctuations, if the temp in the egg gets too high the chuncks will burn rather than smolderr raising your temperature. Also, if you have lots of small prices of charcoal they will burn fast raising your temperature. You will always get temperature fluctuations with lump charcoal. As long as you stay between 225 and 275 you should be fine. Try shooting for 235 or 250 which will give you some room on both the up and down side.
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Welcome to The Pit KiloVolt89! Great having you here! You included a bio in your first post!Originally posted by KiloVolt89So, the questions! Right now it's got salt and pepper on it, sinking in on the counter before I hit it with the rub and seasoning. Been using the Johnny Trigg meat and chicken rub, but this time I'm really excited, got Q Barbeque rub and sauce ordered straight from Q Barbeque in Virginia, if you look on Tuffy Stone's twitter, I'm the KiloVolt89 he retweeted near the top of his feed, when i sent a pic of the seasoning arriving! So,
1) how long do I let it sit with salt and pepper? I used to let it sit just 15 before applying rub and setting for another hour, but recently from articles on this site I'm thinking maybe sit for an hour, then rub sits for an hour. Thoughts?
and 2), the foil. I usually put it bone side down when I lay the ribs on the foil 2 hours in, should I really be laying it meat side down? It makes sense on the surface, but thats the main bark/rub part so I dunno, I was nervous about putting them face down and losing the flavor. And on that topic, should I be closing the foil packet so it steams in? I leave it open for now, but open to tips!
I'll try to help...
1) Salt should sit on the meat the longest, it is what actually penetrates the meat fibers, nothing else does (well, sugar to a very limited degree). When you get a chance, check out Dr Blonder's seminar on the Magic of Salt in our Videos/Seminars channel. It's quite eye opening... Anyway, here's what I do. I salt mine anywhere from an hour before smoking-while the smoker's heating up- to overnight. Ribs are relatively thin, so they don't really require a loooong dry brine time. But more time is better as a general rule. Pepper will do nothing as it sits on the meat. Neither will the rest of your rub. Add all of that right before you're ready to smoke, or when you add the salt, it really doesn't matter. Just give the salt time, that's what matters.
2) Skip the foil. You don't eat the bones, so if they get a wee bit toasted it shouldn't matter. Set up your grill in a 2-zone setup. Meathead has that outline for gas grills too on the main AmazingRibs site under calibrating grills. If you have a good 2-zone setup you shouldn't get burnt bones. Generally speaking, the "best" ribs are not fall-apart as is popular misconception. You want them tender but still holding to the bone requiring a little tug from the teeth to eat. Wrapping them in foil will up your chances of getting them a little overcooked, which will cause them to be fall-apart. Now, if you or your GF prefer them fall-apart, then that's all that matters. But I would say skip the foil entirely if you have them cooking on the indirect side of your grill.
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Thanks for the prompt info Huskee! Excited to be on the site!
I let the salt sit the longest, then hit it with the Tuffy Rub/ little Trigg rub / paprika / brown sugar. Put it in the fridge for 30 since Meathead noted that cold meat attracts smoke faster; can't wait til that book comes out in May. Little hard to get a specific temp with the gas grill, but looks like it's rolling along at about 260. Will lift the lid in 3 hours to check since I don't have to lift after 2 to transfer to foil! Ribs are on the indirect side of the grill. Definitely need to invest in a thermometer for the grill and a thermometer for the meat, just a little hard right now to drop 90 on a Thermapen! There are cheaper options so I will be browsing that section of the site. Next step I want to get into is preparing a rub on my own from scratch, perhaps the Memphis Dust one.
Quick Q about the ribs. Probably will try the bend test after 4 hours or so, so if it cracks then, is it harmful to THEN add the sauce to caramelize? That's another 15 or so on the grill, so if they're ready I don't want to go over the mark just to get the sauce! But it would be hard to time if i hit it with sauce then did the bend test, as they would either be on too long or the sauce softens the bark and no cracking appears.
It's awesome that I can use this to as questions! Usually kind of just googled or winged it, as none of my friends seem to be into barbeque at the same level of my interest in it or have cooked more than a burger or steak. Which just means I have no competition for head pitmaster of the crew! woo!
Checked out the Homework page too and made a post on the Intro, so I'm well on my way to getting the feet wet! And well on my way into beer #1. I think it's bad luck to not crack one and toast your grill for a Good Cook when you first shut the lid on the raw meat. Just saying.Last edited by KiloVolt89; February 27, 2016, 12:44 PM.
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Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue
Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
- PBC
- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Slow 'N Sear Master Kettle (cart-mounted)
- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Traeger Flatrock Griddle
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold & Lime
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red - big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
About me
Real name: Aaron
Location: Farwell, Michigan - near Clare (dead center of lower peninsula).
Occupation:- Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) at MyMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.
KiloVolt89 Lol, yes an adult beverage must be in hand for a cook to progress properly, at least that's what I've always lived by! If your primary focus is smoking ribs, you don't need a Thermapen. We go by the bend test for proper doneness, not spot checking their temp. I recommend the $60 Maverick ET-732. It has 2 probes, one for the grate/cooker temp, and one for meat, or 2 for the cooker temp if you're doing ribs. It's wireless- you can see your temps sitting on your couch, and has programmable alarms so you don' cook at 350 w/o knowing it!
As far as saucing when the bend test has checked out, yes! Sauce doesn't need much time to set. If I were saucing my ribs (I usually don't) I'd do it as soon as the ribs were ready, then do a quick sauce & sizzle. Meathead's LMR article touches on some saucing strategies toward the end.
You're in a great place for asking BBQ questions! We'll usually refer you to an article/recipe that explains the questions thoroughly, but there's also plenty of experience to share from our many members.
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My DW is out of town, and I have promised to use my new SnS to make her some perfect ribs when she comes home. She's already been very pleased with our first ribeye and spatchcocked chicken, so the pressure is on!
So, may plan this week is to do some practice ribs. I got a slab of StLouis style spareribs, which I want to turn into LMRs.
And here is the question: since there is only me to test them, should I make any changes to the Last Meal Ribs recipe for just half a slab? Since the thickness will be normal -- but only half as long
-- should I still expect to cook 'em low and slow for 5-6 hours, as you would for a full rack?
Awaiting your collective advice...
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Originally posted by GilaMonster View PostMy DW is out of town, and I have promised to use my new SnS to make her some perfect ribs when she comes home. She's already been very pleased with our first ribeye and spatchcocked chicken, so the pressure is on!
So, may plan this week is to do some practice ribs. I got a slab of StLouis style spareribs, which I want to turn into LMRs.
And here is the question: since there is only me to test them, should I make any changes to the Last Meal Ribs recipe for just half a slab? Since the thickness will be normal -- but only half as long
-- should I still expect to cook 'em low and slow for 5-6 hours, as you would for a full rack?
Awaiting your collective advice...
Well GilaMonster with LMR the only thing you are really making is the MD. I usually make more MD when the shaker I have gets to be about 1/4. But I always have a large shaker of MD around. It is part of my spice rack like Garlic Salt and Lawry's Seasoned Salt.
So just make up a huge jar and spread the MD love!
As for time it all depends. But I would probably check those after a couple / few hours since they should go a bit quicker.
Enjoy!
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