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  • painter
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    Brisket Advice

    I'm planning a whole packer cook starting later this evening and have a question for the pit. My last brisket was tasty save for the bottom (closest to the fire) which was like leather. Someone sensibly suggested cooking fat side down so the fat can act as a heat shield. Sounds good. However, this means cooking with the point down and the flat up if I've got my cow anatomy correct. Somehow this doesn't feel right to me. As it's an overnighter, I won't be doing much flipping of the brisket. Looking forward to thoughts and input from the pit.
  • bardsleyque
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    • Oct 2015
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    #2
    what are you cooking on and what type of fuel?

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    • painter
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      #3
      Lump on a Primo ceramic grill. I'll have the heat defectors in and I plan to inject the brisket. Trimmed it's still a 15+lb beast.

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      • Donw
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        • Jul 2017
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        #4
        I keep Eric’s post as a bookmark. He answers a lot of questions people have. https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...brisket-method

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        • JGo37
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          #5
          Donw that was a great article from ecowper , I remember reading it when it posted.

          I don't know how to use a Primo. So with that in mind you've got to get the brisket into a heat bath by cooking it indirect to get consistent doneness (that should be a word) top to bottom, side to side. Once you figure out how to do that on your cooker, you'll get the results you want.

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          • ecowper
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              Eric Cowperthwaite aka ecowper

            #6
            The key is to cook indirect .... however, I’m not a Kamado guy, so not sure who you best set this up for indirect on a Primo ..... maybe one of our Kamado folks, like EdF, can chime in.

            Also, thanks JGo37 and Donw, that’s quite the compliment

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            • Jerod Broussard
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              #7
              Definitely fat down. However when going fat down, that thinner part of the flat (that rides up the point) seems to dry out more than I like before I get the overall bark I want. I plan to combat that next cook with spritzing.

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                #8
                Personally, for this one, I'd split off the point and put it on a grid extender, and put the flat fat side down. You can then cook them independently.

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                • painter
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                  #9
                  Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
                  EdF, that's good council. Just so happens I recently received grid extenders as a b-day gift, so I can put them to good use. I've separated the point and flat and, as it's no longer one clod of beef, it will cook quicker. So instead of the overnight-er I was planning, I think I'll just get up early and get it going. Hopefully have pics to follow.

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                  • texastweeter
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                    • Jul 2017
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                    #10
                    Fat down. Be sure to over inject the flat. Come back and inject the flat from the top (i inject the nonlipids from the side with a multihole needle) with oil or some kind of fat such as tallow. Crutch

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                    • ecowper
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                        Smoke = Weber Smokey Mountain 22.5"

                        Thermometer = FireBoard FBX11 with 2 ambient and 6 meat probes
                        Thermometer = Maverick ET732
                        Thermometer = ThermoWorks Chef Alarm
                        Thermapen Mk IV = Light blue
                        Thermapen Classic = Grey
                        PID Controller = Fireboard Drive + Auber 20 CFM Fan

                        Favorite cook = Tri-Tip for the grill, whole packer brisket for the smoker
                        Favorite wine = a good Bordeaux with steak, a good Syrah with pork, or a nice bottle of Champagne or California sparkling wine
                        Favorite beer = Sam Adams Boston Lager or Shiner Bock
                        Favorite whisky = Lagavulin 16 year old single malt

                        Best Cookbooks - Meathead's "The Science of Great Barbecue and Grilling", Chris Lilly's "Big Bob Gibson's BBQ Book", Aaron Franklin's "Franklin BBQ"


                        Eric Cowperthwaite aka ecowper

                      #11
                      Interesting advice on fat down on a Kamado .... I always cook fat side up on the Hasty-Bake of WSM when cooking a brisket.

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                      • texastweeter
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                        Keep the fat and the point (if on an offset) towards the heat.

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