New Food Intolerances

[captainlee]

I have always had all dairy, high fiber fruits and vegetables and certain nuts and wine. After a new test some surprising, 37 total to avoid, showed up. Salomn, cod,squid,no shell fish luckily, cumin, paprika,pink salt,vermouth,gin, brandy,beer,bell peppers, red onion..... I never really drank beer because I didn't like how I felt afterwards. There are also 21 that will cause mild issues. Luckily brisket, ribs and pulled pork weren't listed. Just have to be more careful while traveling and camping. I always suspected red onion and thought about salmon but that didn't make sense, ha ha.

[HawkerXP]

Wow.

[RonB]

Wow! I learned one thing reading this. NEVER get any allergy tests.

[captainlee]

I hear you but it answered why I was having issues. I'll just have to start enjoying my good stuff more. Watermelon was on that list too, how in American is that!

[fzxdoc]

Amen to that. No point looking under that particular rock.

K.

[Duanessmokedmeats]

I am allergic to all food.
I eat it and I swell up....

[Donw]

I might suggest that you don’t accept the results as gospel immediately. Consider it a first step. Some intolerances you already know just from direct experience like how onions might affect your digestive system. Test each intolerance individually and see if your reaction verifies the test results. Intolerance tests are known for false positives. Of course if you have a known allergy such as shellfish then no need to endanger yourself.

For further reading:

https://www.aaaai.org/tools-for-the-public/conditions-library/allergies/igg-food-test

[captainlee]

That's a lot of eating! Funny that I was suspect to most of these anyway. I'm m sure in moderation all is ok, except dairy and wine and mushrooms. As long as I don't stack up a bunch of these over a course of a few meals any reaction would be mild. Just items to keep in mind.

[captainlee]

Actually my gut health came out perfect. All my vitamins were great except K was way off. I'll speak with my Dr about that during my physical next month.

[LegoMySearwood]

I’m glad you are finding this out. I hope you can have increased health moving forward.

[captainlee]

I'm sure the report isn't perfect, but a good guide to work off of since I've been experiencing more issue. On the good foods list it showed Kale, I can't eat Kale for a fact.

[58limited]

Sorry to hear this. I would try a few of the less allergenic foods on the list to see if they really cause a problem but I would avoid those that had a high response.

So far no food allergies for me, knock on wood. No beverage allergies either, not sure how I'd do without beer.

"When I read about the evils of drinking I gave up reading" Henny Youngman

[DavidNorcross]

Man sorry to hear this. I guess you are safe with bread and water.

[Jerod Broussard]

I did an allergen test on my last Laboratory blood test.

ALLERGENS: Matrimony

Plus a little low on Vitamin D.

[ecowper]

boy, that was a waste of money to tell you something you already knew ;-)

[Jerod Broussard]

ecowper no joke..... just another example of a broken Health Care system.

[lemayp]

My wife and I were both diagnosed with Celiac in our 40s. Our daughter has dairy and egg allergies, We’ve just given up on eating out, somebody is coming home sick. I used to tease friends with allergies, little did I know what a pain it is.

[Mosca]

My sister was diagnosed with Celiac in her 40s as well. Cooking around it takes a little thought but isn’t that hard, but eating out around it is more of a problem. Thank goodness for on line menus!

[captainlee]

Grandson has the dairy thing but he doesn't have the willpower yet to say no when his friends have it. He will pay the price.

[Jerod Broussard]

jfmorris they just updated our allergen list and they added Sesame to go along with the other eight, so it's the big nine instead of the big eight. But they also noted gluten. I'm guessing people weren't adding wheat, but were adding gluten and had to be explained to that it is the gluten in the wheat, you can't just NOT add wheat but then somehow sneak gluten thru the back door.

[LA Pork Butt]

Limitations are no fun! But, there is still a lot you can enjoy!

[Mosca]

How do the symptoms manifest themselves?

I have a cast iron gut. Mary Joan says I could eat the ass out of a skunk. There are foods I don’t like the taste of, but other than having to force them past my tongue, they don’t bother me.

[captainlee]

I remember at the Meatup you all were eating mass quantities of cheese and sausages, I just had to observe. Lucky you have an iron gut.

[ecowper]

That's me too ..... I can eat anything. It's extremely rare (like maybe once a year) that I get an upset stomach. I also basically never get sick. I think these things all go together

[jfmorris]

Same here. No allergies, unless it is to cats. So, I just don't eat cats, and I've been ok so far...

[captainlee]

Mostly gut issues and frequent trips to the bathroom.

[Mosca]

Ugh. Then the good thing about knowing the results is that you can tailor your intake for maximum enjoyment of what doesn’t bother you. I know from having to cook around MJ’s issues that it’s possible.

[dpearce]

Wow, seems like a wide cross-hatch of food items. Made me curious, so I plugged a few questions into Perplexity. This is what it came up with (I left the citations in for you in case you were curious and wanted to read more:

The common factor among all these foods—salmon, cod, squid, cumin, paprika, pink salt, vermouth, gin, brandy, beer, bell peppers, and red onion—is that they either contain or are associated with allergenic proteins or chemical compounds that can trigger immune responses in sensitive individuals.erudus+3 Analysis by Category

• Seafood (Salmon, Cod, Squid):
  All contain allergenic proteins, especially parvalbumin in finned fish and tropomyosin in squid, which can trigger IgE-mediated food allergies in susceptible individuals.evexiadiagnostics+1
• Spices (Cumin, Paprika):
  These spices contain distinctive proteins known to cause allergic reactions; cross-reactivity occurs because they are part of the same botanical family as other allergenic plants.usbiotek+1
• Vegetables (Bell Peppers, Red Onion):
  Both have allergenic plant proteins such as profilins and lipid transfer proteins, which can trigger oral allergy syndrome or true allergic responses, especially in people sensitized to certain pollen or plant families.usbiotek
• Alcoholic Drinks (Vermouth, Gin, Brandy, Beer):
  These can contain various allergens: residual proteins from grains (such as barley or wheat in beer), botanicals in gin (which may include nuts, seeds, or spices), sulfites (common in wine, vermouth), and histamines present from fermentation. Cross-contamination or flavoring additions can also introduce allergens, and sulfites or yeast are potential triggers for sensitive people.erudus+1
• Pink Salt:
  Pure salt is not typically allergenic, but certain pink salts may be contaminated with trace minerals or additives from their mining source. Allergic reactions are extremely rare, but salt can sometimes be a cofactor in allergic processes.usbiotek

Common Allergenic Themes

• Protein Allergens: Allergenicity in seafood, spices, vegetables, and some alcohols is often due to specific proteins that are recognized by the immune system.nutripath+2
• Cross-Reactive Plant Families: Spices and vegetables may share botanical families, increasing cross-reactivity risk for those allergic to certain plant proteins.nutripath+1
• Additives and Fermentation Byproducts: Alcoholic drinks contain added botanicals, yeast, and sulfites, each of which can trigger allergy or sensitivity reactions.erudus+1
• Histamine and Sulfite Sensitivity: Fermented products like beer, vermouth, and brandy may cause non-IgE mediated reactions due to their content of these compounds.erudus+1

Summary Table

Salmon, Cod	Seafood	Parvalbumin, tropomyosinevexiadiagnostics
Squid	Seafood	Tropomyosinevexiadiagnostics
Cumin, Paprika	Spice	Plant proteins, lipid transfer proteinsusbiotek
Bell Peppers	Vegetable	Profilin, lipid transfer proteinsusbiotek
Red Onion	Vegetable	Allium proteins (alliin lyase, profilin)usbiotek
Vermouth, Gin, Brandy, Beer	Alcoholic drink	Botanicals, grains, yeast/sulfites/histamineserudus+1
Pink Salt	Mineral	Rare; possible contaminant proteinsusbiotek

All these foods share the risk of allergenic proteins or sensitizing compounds—either naturally occurring or introduced in processing or fermentation—that can provoke allergic reactions in sensitive individuals.evexiadiagnostics+3

1. https://erudus.com/editorial/the-foo...ide-in-alcohol
2. https://www.usbiotek.com/hubfs/Conte....FootStats.pdf
3. https://www1.evexiadiagnostics.com/w...dated.2020.pdf
4. http://www.nutripath.com.au/wp-conte...atted-v0.1.pdf
5. https://home.allergicchild.com/alcoh...ood-allergies/
6. https://www.spokin.com/food-allergy-...ed-drink-guide
7. https://www.reddit.com/r/bartenders/..._and_liqueurs/
8. https://cellsciencesystems.com/pdfs/...s_EBooklet.pdf
9. https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/public/2009/manuals/phone_follow_up_dietary_procedures_manual_mar_2010 .pdf
10. https://gyansanchay.csjmu.ac.in/wp-c...avor-Bible.pdf

[dpearce]

Huskee thank you! Wasn't really sure if it was all the linky-linky stuff or not, so I appreciate the oversight!

[Huskee]

It was, the system flags posts with lots of links because they typically are spam. Yours of course isn't. Thanks again!

[captainlee]

Interesting the relationships. I know to stay away from sulfites, definitely present in most wines. I can eat cream of wheat hot cereal but not oatmeal. Good multi grain bread is on the no list. Thanks for posting.

[ecowper]

I'm glad you've found a good starting point to solving the food issues. That's great. And thank goodness beef and pork are not on the list.

I would be very sad with no salmon, cod, vermouth, gin. I can do without brandy and beer, but whiskey and red wine would suck. No paprika? Half my family is Hungarian, this would be absolutely impossible for me.