We have a 30 year old Kenmore. Works fine.
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If I had a 30 year old dishwasher, I would never get rid of it. The modern stuff is crap. -
ecowper I did some checking this morning, and parts for this are few and far between.
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When we replaced the one our current home had when we moved in back in 2019, my conclusion was that once you pick your price point, there won't be a ton of difference between one brand to the next in terms of features. Also, many nameplates are all manufactured by the same company, Whirlpool, which includes the Jenn-Air, Maytag, Amana, Roper, and KitchenAid brands. Electrolux owns Frigidaire, Tappan, Kelvinator; GE's appliance arm was bought out by Chinese firm Haier in 2016 and includes GE, Hotpoint, Cafe, Profile, and Monogram brands.
Bottom line, you get what you pay for in dishwashers. Go cheap and you'll know it. And in the end we selected a GE Profile model that we're quite happy with (and it matched our range and microwave, which made my lovely bride happy).Last edited by DaveD; December 27, 2023, 08:01 AM.Comment
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We replaced our 30 year old Kitchenaide DW in Dec 2007. I bought a Bosch SHE43M on a holiday promotion from Sears based on it being the very best rated DW at that time by Consumer Reports. It has never needed a service call, was the quietest machine on the market at the time, and cleans as good as I can by hand. My TV watching chair sits about 5 feet from the back of the DW and I can not hear it running with the TV on at normal volume. If it goes before I do, it will definitely be replaced by another Bosch.Comment
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Bosch here. We’ve had it 5 years.
Advantages:
1) Super quiet. It is so quiet, it has a little red light that projects to the floor to let you know it’s on. Otherwise, you wouldn’t know.
2) It does an excellent job of cleaning the dishes.
Disadvantages:
1) It is difficult to load. The basket heights are odd and difficult to change, and the tines are at odd angles and are odd sizes. It’s like the plates are standard but the dishwasher is metric; things fit, but not naturally. You gotta work at it.
2) It is expensive to repair. At the 4 year and 11 month mark it threw an e09 code, which is the preheater for the water pump. I had the 5 year service contract, so it was covered, but the technician told me that the repair would have cost more than a new unit! The pump alone (it is a single unit with the heater) is $350. Apparently that particular part was a failure point for that model, which has been corrected. But now the replacement pump is slightly noisier, so?
3) The regular cycle time is TWO HOURS AND THIRTY MINUTES. It is 2:46 if you don’t use the liquid drying aid. This doesn’t use any additional water, but it’s a pain in the ass. Fortunately the “Speed 60” cycle works just fine in most cases. (Surprise fact: Speed 60 is actually 84 minutes. There is 24 minutes of drying time.)
Overall, I like it. The two advantages carry far more weight than the three disadvantages, which are really just annoyances and inconveniences.Comment
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Tom, this one is only 2 levels, I use the 2 silverware baskets. They each have 2 plastic clips on them, which you then are supposed to clip onto the top of the side rail. It’s a pain sometimes to get the clips in the right place. I’ve never seen that before, mine at home….it just drops into place at the side.
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I just checked some prices of new dishwashers.
I will certainly not be replacing my old Kenmore when it breaks.
I ain't spending 2 mortgage payments on a Bosch dishwasher.Comment
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Asko, run it everyday. I think it is probably 20 years old and runs like a champ. Many options.Comment
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In our last house we had a Miele. Hands down the best machine I've ever owned. We had six kids, so it got run three times a day for six years. I never had to fix anything on it. It always cleaned the dishes very well. I would totally buy one again.
The house we are in now has a pretty nice Bosch. I'm pretty happy with it, but I have had to take it apart to fix a few small things in the two years I've owned it.Comment
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Richard, there’s a lot of Bosch fans here, and probably with good reason. I don’t know if the one I got is indicative of just that model or what. But, IMO, most of the name brand models are going to do a fine job of cleaning your dishes and most of them are at least going to be relatively quiet. Longevity should also be a factor in your decision of course. But….if I could have seen that model in person and played with it a little, I’d have never bought it. It’s not my personal dishwasher, but I’m the only one that uses it when visiting Mom. I get frustrated every time I use it because of my previous comments. You can get the best dishwasher in the world, but if it’s a pain to use, it’s not worth it to me. 🤷♂️
My personal dishwasher is a 15 year old Frigidaire Gallery model and I love it. Never been repaired, it’s pretty quiet, and does a great job of cleaning and drying…….This is almost as much fun as when someone asks what smoker they should get! 😂😂Comment
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I had a Kitchenaid in my previous house and we liked it. In June we moved into a new house that had a Bosch. I always heard good things about Bosch so I was happy it was there. But my wife absolutely hated it and while I was out of town she ordered a new Kitchenaid that was the model that was closest to our older one. We love it. The new third rack is actually useful. It gets the dishes clean and makes almost no noise.
One thing to keep in mind is that Bosch, LG, Miele and others do not have a heated drying cycle. They are more energy efficient that way, but dishes often emerge still wet. If that bothers you, then steer away from those brands.Comment
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Bosch -best we've ever hadComment
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We like our Bosch, but I agree about loading the complaints. It can be a bit challenging. Crack the door open at the end of the cycle to let out all of that steam. The dishes will dry.Comment
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I bought a KitchenAid a few years ago and am frustrated with it every time I load it. It runs FOREVER and isn't built for larger dishes.
The lower rack...
Larger plates, skillets, and some pots are hit by the second rack washing blades.
The tines aren't arranged to allow for a full load of smaller dishes.
The silverware rack runs the entire length of the washer. It should have been made to come apart and thus the ability to use half of it. I have issues getting all the plates and bowls in the bottom when there are any pots, skillets etc.. while at the same time barely use even half of the silverware rack.
I don't have any real issues with the 2nd rack, though I do have to manipulate things in order get a medium size salad bowl under the 3rd rack.
3rd rack is useful, if not in the way, for small glasses and regular sized coffee mugs. It has a tray to the side which is perfect for lids and other items you don't want falling between railings/bottom of the other two racks.
Water gets fairly hot without heated wash. It drys well on heated dry, but not otherwise.
If I really wanted to save on energy, and feel good about bacteria, I would purchase a good set of washing gloves and manually wash/dry the dishes.Comment
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Yes, on larger plates etc hitting the washing blades. I stack those around the edges and give the blade a spin to check. And one large pot pretty much fills the bottom; if I have two, I put one over the other. It works. But that goes in the “difficult to load properly” column.
Your dishwasher actually uses far LESS water and energy than doing dishes by hand! I had to look this up myself, but it is true. Google it, there are 26 million results and the first 100 all agree.
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Yale Appliance in the northeast has some great videos on the pro/cons of many appliances and brands including dishwashers. We watched many range videos before getting our Bosch induction range.Comment
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12 years ago we bought a Maytag because I was stubborn about buying a Bosch without a heating element to dry. A month or so ago, we finally replaced it with a Bosch 800 series. Over the 12 years with the Maytag (Whirlpool) I replaced the control panel, lower rack wheels multiple times, had balls from the upper rack bearings randomly fly across the kitchen, etc. Always had plastics that we had to dry or throw in the sink to air dry.
The Bosch 800 series actually dries better than the Maytag with the heating element and I think washes better too. Plastic containers with a lip, well sure show me a dishwasher that always gets them dry, However, with the Maytag all the plastic cups always had water on top off them. We don’t open the door either on the Bosch, just let it do its thing. Some patented drying system.Comment
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