Still in the learning stage so I am a little apprehensive about smoking. the whole brisket. I saw both choice trimmed flats and points, both around 4 - 5 lbs at the market and am thinking about starting with one of those. Question is, which would you all recommend that I smoke first. I think that if I could find a small brisket, I might try the who thing, but so far I have not been able to find anything 10 lbs or less. Any advice and comments would be welcome
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Do you prefer lean or fatty cuts? The flat is lean while the point is fatty, but should render down when properly cooked. I also think the point is a bit more forgiving as it has less of a tendency to dry out.
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I highly recommend cooking the whole packer when you start. It’s actually more forgiving and easier than cook a hunk o’brisket in my opinion. My two cents worth
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Current fanboy cookbook - "Chasing Smoke: Cooking Over Fire Around the Levant"
Some Posts in Pitmaster to check out:
Eric's Brisket Method
Eric's Method for Drunken Texas Beans
Stacy's Bouef Bourguignon
Eric's Smoked Texas Chili
Rancho Gordo Beans and Bean Club
Troutman's Ribs - Step By Step Primer
Grilled Pork Chops: Harissa Marinade​
Light My (Hasty Bake) Fire
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Also, to give you some idea of what happens with a 14 lb brisket
1. If you trim well and aggressively, you will take off 2.5 to 3 lbs and the brisket is now about 11 lbs
2. When you cook it, it will shrink about 30%, so you’re now at 7.5 to 8 lbs of cooked meat
3. Each person eating with you will have about 8-12 oz of meat, so 1/2 to 3/4 lb
4. Assuming you have some folks over, you will finish 1/3 to 1/2 of the cooked brisket
5. You will have 4 lbs, or so, of brisket let.
6. Save 2 lbs for left overs, lunches, sammiches
7. Turn the other 2 lbs into brisket hash
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That's a nice breakdown, but with just my wife, who eats as much as a parakeet and my daughter, that might end up with a lot of brisket for a long long time. Still, sounds worth tr;ying.
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Apply that breakdown to a 10 lb brisket, you will trim 2 lbs, lose 2 lbs to cooking shrink, and have 6 lbs of brisket. The 3 of you will eat 2 lbs. That gives you 4 lbs of leftovers. Some for sammiches, some for hash, and some for chili :-)
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Agree with advice above. Cook the whole brisket, freeze the leftovers right away, and enjoy them in January/February when you're not going to want to get out there.
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I’d go with a large point over the flat for beginners. As RonB mentioned, it’s more fatty and a little more forgiving if you happen to overcook it. A simple rub of Kosher salt and fresh ground pepper is easy as well as tasty on its own. Remember to pull it at an IT of about 203-205 and let it rest, wrapped for a couple of hours in a cooler.
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There are many good videos on youtube.com about smoking a brisket, whole brisket, and burnt ends.
Actually it is easy to make excellent brisket on a pellet grill.
I am easily confused, so I try to keep it simple.
trim, season, smoke 225-275df, wrap @165df internal, cook until probe tender.
Be sure to checkout Amazing Ribs free side for great how to on brisket.
Don't forget the PBR, and friends.Last edited by bbqLuv; November 13, 2020, 09:51 AM.
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Here is my suggestion. Get a full packer, smoke her up, eat what you like, pack the rest in a cooler with some dry ice and send her to me here in TN...
Whatever you decide to do, use this:
The traditional Texas mop sauce recipe is usually more like a tomato soup, thin and spicy, it penetrates the meat.
I have gotten to where I won't do a brisket without it.
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You’re funny bbqLuv 😂. We all know Texas is a BBQ wasteland! Send it to:
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I'm with the posters above that state "do the whole brisket". Why - because you will eventually cook a whole brisket someday and you might as well get your experience in at the beginning. With the experience of cooking a whole brisket and seeing how the flat and point cook, you'll be able to separate those in the future if you are so inclined to cook them separately. I don't think you'll learn a whole lot by cooking them separately.......my 2 cents.
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So... given that you're not having a party and with due respect for the fact that you can freeze leftovers etc... I'd cook a point and I'd take the flat and make pastrami out of it (or ropa vieja, etc). What I would NOT do is smoke a flat by itself unless it's very well marbled. It will have too high a chance of drying out.
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