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- May 2014
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- Clare, Michigan area
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Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
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- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Slow 'N Sear Master Kettle (cart-mounted)
- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Traeger Flatrock Griddle
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
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- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
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Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold & Lime
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- Wine: Red - big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
About me
Real name: Aaron
Location: Farwell, Michigan - near Clare (dead center of lower peninsula).
Occupation:- Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) at MyMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.
My personal experience has been there's a law of diminishing returns in play with large briskets. Larger briskets, again in my experience and not necessarily yours, seem to have a larger % of fat = waste of money. I once did a 14lb and 19lb and after they were trimmed and cooked & shrunk they both looked identical on the cutting boards before slicing. Of course much of that can be circumstantial and not a set rule. It took me a couple times doing large ones, and to me that's 18lbs+, to realize I hate large ones.
I digress. As surely others have mentioned above you can lose around 1/3 or more in trimming, and starting with ~1/2lb raw weight per person is the general norm if there's a mixed bag of eaters and appetites...but with tasty brisket being the star, and if there's lots of big eaters, you may be better off going near 1lb raw weight per person in my humble opinion. So an 18lb brisket might get you 10-12lbs meat after trimming/before cooking, and that's adequate for say 10-20 people. Better to have lotsa leftovers than run out obviously so estimate on the higher side.
Me, I would smoke it on the kettle if it fits. I fit a 14lber on my 22 on the indirect side with the SnS in use. I would think less tweaking and better fuel mileage on the kettle w/ the SnS, and a little tastier than on a pellet rig.
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Founding Member
- Jul 2014
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- Maple Valley, WA
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Grill/Smoke/Roast = SnS Grills Kettle + SnS Deluxe Insert & Drip n' Griddle
Grill/Smoke/Roast = Hasty-Bake Gourmet Dual Finish with HB rotisserie and Grill Grates
Smoke = Weber Smokey Mountain 22.5"
Pizza = Blackstone Propane Pizza Oven (Stacy's, but she let's me use it sometimes)
Indoor Cooking = LG Studio 30" gas range
Camp Cooking = Coleman 2 burner white gas stove
Thermometer = FireBoard FBX2 with 2 ambient and 6 meat probes
Thermapen Mk IV = Light blue
Thermapen Mk IV = Black
PID Controller = Fireboard Drive + Auber 20 CFM Fan (FB gen 1 fan)
PID Controller = Fireboard Drive + Fireboard 20 CFM Fan (FB gen 2 fan)
Knives
Wusthof Classic Ikon set: 9" carving knive, 2X 8" Chef's Knife, 7" Santoku and three utility knives
Kamikoto Kuro set: 7" Santoku, 6.5" Nakiri, 5" Utility
Amazing Ribs Brazilian Steak knife set
Favorite wine = whatever is currently in the wine rack
Favorite beer = Sam Adams Boston Lager or Shiner Bock
Favorite whisky = Lagavulin Distiller's Edition 16 year old single malt
Best Cookbooks - Meathead's "The Science of Great Barbecue and Grilling", Chris Lilly's "Big Bob Gibson's BBQ Book", Aaron Franklin's "Franklin BBQ", Raichlen’s “Brisket Chronicles”
Current MCBS - Momofuku
Current fanboy cookbook - "Chasing Smoke: Cooking Over Fire Around the Levant"
Some Posts in Pitmaster to check out:
Eric's Brisket Method
Eric's Method for Drunken Texas Beans
Stacy's Bouef Bourguignon
Eric's Smoked Texas Chili
Rancho Gordo Beans and Bean Club
Troutman's Ribs - Step By Step Primer
Grilled Pork Chops: Harissa Marinade
Light My (Hasty Bake) Fire
Eric
If you had a 24" WSM that would be my recommendation. Since you don't, a full packer won't easily fit on a WSM 18. Go with the pellet smoker. Don't worry about the "needs more smoke stuff" .... trim aggressively, dry brine for 24 hours, hit it with garlic powder and black pepper and then on to the pellet smoker. Plan your cook so that you will be able to hold that packer for 4 hours in a faux cambro or a low heat oven. Long holds at 170F make a huge difference to your outcome.
my huge write up on brisket, hopefully it helps
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- Dec 2014
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- Grew up in New Orleans, 20 years in Texas, 22 years in Mandeville, LA. Now Dallas, TX
The Searwood will make your life easier. In my search for more smoke on my Searwood I put the meat on cold, start the Searwood and smoke boost for about 45 minutes. Then I set it and forget it until the temp probe hits my target temp. Have fun.
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Club Member
- Aug 2025
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- Boise
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Started smoking in Aug 2025. First smoker is a Weber Searwood. I purchased a ThermoWorks Smoke to get a more accurate temperature and the pro-series needle probe. I also have a Weber grilling basket, Weber grill brush, and the Grillart steambrush. I've tried all sorts of pellets and wood flavors and my family mainly likes the Traeger signature blend. I have a meat injector and shears for poultry.
I also recently purchased a new 2010 used Weber Kettle Performer. Just got a cover for it. I bought the ThermoWorks RFX with 1 wireless probe, the SnS and DnG to spruce up the grill. I have not cooked on it yet. I cut a hole and installed the ThermoWorks billows. I did buy 4 bags of the B&B charcoal briquettes.
All my cooking has been on the Searwood. I absolutely love cooking Pork Shoulder, chicken wings, chicken breasts and steak. I won first place in my church chili cookoff (I bragged to everyone about it) and I really enjoyed the chili (and I don't really like chili). I really enjoyed Moink balls. I like cooking ribs, chicken breasts, and chicken legs with white sauce.
I look forward to cooking pork burnt ends, smoked turkey for Thanksgiving, and maybe even a brisket.
I'm still trying to determine rubs my wife will really enjoy. I love the rubs from the website, but my wife just wants some rubs that will bring out the meat flavor so she can taste the meat. I'm seeking simple rubs for chicken breasts and steaks.
I love soda and especially Dr. Pepper. I don't drink alcohol.
I live near Boise, ID. I've been married for 25 years and I have 5 kids. I'm a second career dentist.
I have decided to smoke the brisket with my Weber Smokey Mountain. It just holds temperature really well and I can curve it over some wood chunks to allow it to fit. I just did a cook with some pork and it worked like a champ.
I used my RFX and billows to get really consistent temperature so I can have some peace of mind as I dream of brisket overnight.
I guess the only question I have left is wood. How much and what kind with brisket?
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- Aug 2025
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Started smoking in Aug 2025. First smoker is a Weber Searwood. I purchased a ThermoWorks Smoke to get a more accurate temperature and the pro-series needle probe. I also have a Weber grilling basket, Weber grill brush, and the Grillart steambrush. I've tried all sorts of pellets and wood flavors and my family mainly likes the Traeger signature blend. I have a meat injector and shears for poultry.
I also recently purchased a new 2010 used Weber Kettle Performer. Just got a cover for it. I bought the ThermoWorks RFX with 1 wireless probe, the SnS and DnG to spruce up the grill. I have not cooked on it yet. I cut a hole and installed the ThermoWorks billows. I did buy 4 bags of the B&B charcoal briquettes.
All my cooking has been on the Searwood. I absolutely love cooking Pork Shoulder, chicken wings, chicken breasts and steak. I won first place in my church chili cookoff (I bragged to everyone about it) and I really enjoyed the chili (and I don't really like chili). I really enjoyed Moink balls. I like cooking ribs, chicken breasts, and chicken legs with white sauce.
I look forward to cooking pork burnt ends, smoked turkey for Thanksgiving, and maybe even a brisket.
I'm still trying to determine rubs my wife will really enjoy. I love the rubs from the website, but my wife just wants some rubs that will bring out the meat flavor so she can taste the meat. I'm seeking simple rubs for chicken breasts and steaks.
I love soda and especially Dr. Pepper. I don't drink alcohol.
I live near Boise, ID. I've been married for 25 years and I have 5 kids. I'm a second career dentist.
I just wanted to let everyone know that I really enjoyed the suggestions I received. I used my 18" Weber Smokey Mountain and used some wood chunks under the brisket to prop it up and curve it. I also placed the brisket into the handles of the top grate so that it didn't touch the sides. There were suggestions I discovered by Harry Soo's YouTube video on brisket. The brisket shrunk and I eventually didn't need to wood to curve it anymore. I also needed my pellet grill for moink balls or I might have done brisket on it instead.
I want to make a special shout-out to ecowper as I followed his guidelines to the letter.
With my trusty ThermoWorks RFX and Billows, the wsm held 250 degrees for a really long time. I had a little scare at 5 am where one of my ambient probes began registering that the smoker was -58 degrees twice in that hour. I scrambled and switched out to another one and things got back on track. I'm amazed at how consistent the wsm can be with our without a thermostatic controller.
I know I should be posting this in the, 'show us what you're cooking' thread, but you guys helped so much that I thought I should personally thank you all here.
Here is the brisket when it first came off the smoker. It was probe tender like butter at 195 degrees. I did NOT use a texas crutch as I had plenty of time before the party thanks to the guidelines I was given.
I wrapped it tightly in aluminum foil and placed it in the oven at 170 degrees for five hours to rest. Then I placed it in this tub again so it could cool down to slice it at the party. Here it is right before slicing and shortly thereafter.
Look at all the juice and the beautiful smoke ring.
This turned out so awesome. The pull test went perfectly. It was so juicy. A lot more people showed up at the party and this brisket did not last long. Here are some comments I received for my first brisket cook ever!
"I worked in a bbq restaurant and this was a lot better than what we served there."
"This is the best brisket I have ever had."
"I'm so glad I trusted you with this brisket. You came through and it's so delicious."
These are just some of the comments I received in our group of around 26 for my friend's 4th of July party. Even my wife, who abhors fat, pulled a piece of the point and stated that it was so delicious!
I couldn't be more pleased how the brisket turned out. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. You guys made my fourth of July even more special.
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