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Some trials with beef navel . . . beef bacon and pastrami

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    Some trials with beef navel . . . beef bacon and pastrami

    Got some nice looking beef navel from Agridime (RIP) late last year, cut one piece to try beef bacon, and 2 others to try pastrami.
    Here's what one of the pieces looked like raw:

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    Equilibrium dry cured with 1.6% salt and 0.2% cure#2 for 2 weeks. Rubbed with my pastrami cure, but left the piece for bacon without any rub.
    Dried and smoked with hickory, 4 hours at 150º then 2 hours about 175º and 2 more hours 200º. IT was 165º.

    Bacon piece smoked:

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    One pastrami piece smoked:

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    All then refrigerated for several days (varied as all were finished on different days)

    Bacon cut and fried as I usually do with pork belly bacon:

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    First piece pastrami steamed to 210º IT and carved:

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    This was a bit too fatty for my liking and I note that Katz boils their pastrami for quite some time to render some of the fat. I didn't want to boil mine, so I finished the last piece following David Parrish SV finishing method here:

    This was better in terms of fat rendering, but difficult to slice:

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    Wrap-Up:

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    The bacon was good, had a different flavor and texture, but I'll probably stick with pork belly bacon.

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    Similarly, the pastrami, if cooked at high temperature for a long period was good, but the boneless chuck ribs I usually use is better (and easier to get).







    Last edited by johnec00; February 11, 2024, 09:50 PM.

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    I turned some beef navel into pastrami as well and it was very disappointing. I have done it with brisket many times before so it is not really an outstanding cut for pastrami. I suspect as others have noted that the NYC delis can select their beef navels for better outcomes.

    That agridme stuff is crazy. A Ponzi scheme!

    We supply wholesale beef and other protein products. Helping ag producers and consumers make the most valuable and informed decision with every dime.

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      Their cattle trading may be a ponzi scheme, accused so far. Their retail meat sales was excellent and offered cuts I haven't found anywhere else at reasonable prices. Their retail sales site has now been taken down, and they're promising a return??????
      Last edited by johnec00; February 10, 2024, 05:51 PM.

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      I've made pastrami with brisket too. I won't waste the point (burnt ends) on pastrami, and even prime flat is too lean and therefore dry. Boneless chuck ribs make pastrami that I like.
      I crave salty foods and my doctor has been nagging about cutting down for years. In a recent visit, he basically threatened me with unpleasant results if I kept ignoring him. So I've been working on it. docblonder has a recipe for dry cured pastrami on his site HERE (https://genuineideas.com/ArticlesIndex/pastrami.html) that
      Last edited by johnec00; February 10, 2024, 05:52 PM.

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    Wow. I'd had Agridime on my list of online meat retailers to try, but hadn't gotten round to it. Guess I won't be now!

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      Sadly, you're probably right. They say they'll be back, but its likely the current owners have some legal issues hanging over them.

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