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    New cooker deck!

    Hey now, I get to jump on the new outdoor cooking space bandwagon! Yippee!

    Been scoping this out for some time and doing the requisite financial moves to make it possible to expand my usable cooking space out back. Got estimates over the past several weeks and am ready to sign on the dotted line with my chosen outfit next week.

    Some of you may remember me talking about this space before when I discovered a little rectangle of concrete that I hadn't known was there before. That's what ended up in my adding the SnS Deluxe kettle. But that little slablet was so badly off level that it didn't last long there. My lovely bride agreed (maybe a touch grudgingly) to allow me to move it onto the main patio, and to move my Weber gasser pretty much right into the heart of the thing along the kneewall that is part of the design. So here is how things are currently configured. Pit Boss vertical p-smoker sits beside the sliding door because that's where the power outlet is, kettle nearby, gasser across the way.

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    All perfectly workable, but I wanted to get something installed under that breakfast nook window, a small simple deck, to allow me to move the kettle and gasser onto it. The Pit Boss has to stay put because of the power need.

    Here's a better look at the space in question:

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    What I have in mind is a simple rectangular, free-standing, ground-level deck, 12 ft/3.7m wide (parallel to wall of house) by 10 ft/3m (coming out from house). Note that the blue bucket sitting on the ground is about that distance out, for visualization purposes.

    From this angle, the left-hand side and the side closest will have railing, and the right-hand side will consist of a couple of low risers to come back to grade (you can see the slight slope from left to right). Not going to grade/level the ground, just sink the footers and have it as close to ground level as practical. It'll be made from composite; I've opted for Timber Tech over Trex after due consideration. At least equal quality, if not better, for the price point I'm working at, and at the same quality point, the TT is $800 cheaper. No brainer.

    Here's my basic sketch. The grid is 1 ft intervals, and the two cookers and storage box are depicted to scale. I wish the Pit Boss had a longer power cable, that would allow me to put it on the deck too, but alas. Doing this will free up that space on the patio, making for a lot more usable space to live in over there.

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    Note that our natural gas meter and line are on the wall just to the right of the window. All three outfits who came to check it out indicated that would be no problem to work around and leave plenty of access to that equipment, which is of course essential.

    I did consider going without a railing, but in the end decided to have them on those two sides, which will allow me to tether the cookers to the railing. There have been several times when winds have blown strongly enough to push the kettle and gasser around (in fact, this is my second gasser, the one that the former owners left got blown all the way across the patio and hurled onto its side our first year here, destroying the innards).

    My winning bidder came in with a total of about $9200, whereas the other two were a few hundred shy of $11K, so a clear savings. I found all three using Consumers Checkbook, IMO by far the best venue (screw Angie's List!), and they all have excellent reviews and reputations. My chosen firm is giving me discounts for using CC and for agreeing to "flex" scheduling, meaning they guarantee it will be done by the end of June but will slot it in any time an opening arises beforehand, which is how it typically goes. For a project this simple, which can easily be done in under a week, it's highly likely that an earlier window will open up.

    Stay tuned for updates... I am super stoked to be able to move ahead with this project at last!

    (And yes, it is not lost on me that there is that big patch of white space on the deck plan...)

    #2
    Looks like you've touched all the bases. Hope it goes well.

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      #3
      Looks a bit small for when you add a couple of more cookers, size is good for what you have but no allowance for MCS

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      • DaveD
        DaveD commented
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        I think of that as "guardrails"

      #4
      Congrats Dave! That’s gonna be nice, I especially like you’re going with composite over wood. No rot worries and shouldn’t need painting in the future. One thing I’d strongly consider is having them run an electrical outlet to somewhere on the deck. There will be times in the future you’ll wish you had one. Plus you can untether the Pit Boss. It really shouldn’t be much for them to just tie into the outside outlet and run some conduit under the deck.

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      • DaveD
        DaveD commented
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        acorgihouse I had that same thought - get the deck built, and do the electrical add later, once I get to using it and determining whether it's even needed... honestly the Pit Boss's spot is pretty convenient as it is.

      • Andrrr
        Andrrr commented
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        I don't know what the inside of the pellet grill looks like where the power cord connects but can you make your own, longer power cord and hardwire it to the inside, at least until you get an outlet installed? DaveD

      • DaveD
        DaveD commented
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        Andrrr Honestly, the pellet rig is the least of my concerns at this point. My lovely bride and I are both fine with where it currently sits, even after the deck is in place. I'm going to wait and see if the "use case" needs a power outlet. I have no intention of futzing around with the wiring on the PB.

      #5
      Very nice.
      I love decks. I contemplated putting a deck in my back yard instead of a concrete patio.

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        #6
        Very nice Dave. Congratulations. Love watching these builds.

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          #7
          I would like to think a competent electrician, could find a box inside under or to the side of the window, then run a feeler drill bit through the brick. Figure out where a box would tuck in nicely. Wire it, GFI it, n VIOLA! No problemo. Just rollin the dice as to where it will poke out on the brick. Can of spray foam, Done.

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            #8
            Very nice Dave. I’ll echo the suggestions to get an outlet on the deck. It might cost a few dollars now, but you’ll be glad you have it. Think of it as a long-term investment because you’ll more than make it back when you sell the house eventually.

            I’m not even going to bother suggesting you get a new cooker to fill some of that empty space out there. First get used to the deck. Then you can figure out if a griddle or an adjustable would be a better fit.

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            • Richard Chrz
              Richard Chrz commented
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              Yeah, I had 12 outlets wired to our patio, in 3 blocks of 4. Then more has been added to the gazebo, where we have various USB ports, and really nice power strips, where we just connect over to an outlet. Just can’t have too much power available,
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            #9
            Congrats Dave. I'm sure you will really enjoy it. And I agree - do the additional outlet if at all possible.

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              #10
              This is where I WANT to focus, but money keeps getting diverted

              I'd bring a rectangle ALL the way to the corner of the house. MAYBE round the end so it flows with the roundy shapes of the existing but honestly I don't think it's needed...

              I wouldn't do pavers, they'll clash with your existing patio. What you could do is a border of bricks around your existing patio that end up being a border for a stone filled rectangle as well but I hate rolling items over stone
              Last edited by ItsAllGoneToTheDogs; January 13, 2024, 06:20 PM.

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              • DaveD
                DaveD commented
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                No can do - it's not obvious in the photos but our hose bib and power supply & meter are to the left of where the deck will go, and I simply can't afford thousands more to have it be that extensive. We'd first wanted to go nuts and convert the window into a second sliding door, and have the deck at that height. Got quotes between $40 and $50K for that - nope!

              • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
                ItsAllGoneToTheDogs commented
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                DaveD the main supply lines should be plenty deep enough to pour over... was that quote to move them? Seems excessive for anything I can think of with a concrete pad. I've poured over or worked around utilities for years without issue. The only extra expenses (and not very expensive) would be to run 2 stub up pipes in place so if either utility ever had to be replaced you wouldn't have to cut into the slab, you'd just run through via the stub.

              • DaveD
                DaveD commented
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                I hear all that, but honestly, it's moot - all of that is far above my budget. My $9200 quote has no involvement with any utilities at all.

              #11
              Super exciting!! This stuff always costs more than we want but holy cannoli inflation is real. You are absolutely going to love it!! 🔥🔥🐿

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              • DaveD
                DaveD commented
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                Fortunately year-on-year inflation is back under control, according to the figures, almost back to pre-pandemic levels. My bids were all in the same ballpark at least. And this is only about a grand more than I had guessed it would be... could be way worse!

              #12
              Congrats and good luck on the project! Looking forward to updates...

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                #13
                I'm stoked for you Dave! Can't wait for the updates to roll in!

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                  #14
                  Looks like a great plan.

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                    #15
                    I love following patio rebuilds. Congrats on starting the process!

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