Thanks guys - not paying someone to move this. If it is too hard, it gets chopped down!
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- Nov 2017
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- Huntsville, Alabama
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Jim Morris
Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
- Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
- Weber Genesis II E-410 w/ GrillGrates (2019)
- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
- Custom Built Offset Smoker (304SS, 22"x34" grate, circa 1985)
- King Kooker 94/90TKD 105K/60K dual burner patio stove
- Lodge L8D03 5 quart dutch oven
- Lodge L10SK3 12" skillet
- Anova
- Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
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- Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
- Whatever I brewed and have on tap!
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All this work is fine & dandy, just as long as the goal is as smokin fool has now identified, the NEW John Deere.
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Club Member
- Nov 2017
- 7158
- Huntsville, Alabama
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Jim Morris
Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
- Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
- Weber Genesis II E-410 w/ GrillGrates (2019)
- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
- Custom Built Offset Smoker (304SS, 22"x34" grate, circa 1985)
- King Kooker 94/90TKD 105K/60K dual burner patio stove
- Lodge L8D03 5 quart dutch oven
- Lodge L10SK3 12" skillet
- Anova
- Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
- Thermoworks Dot
- Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
- Whatever I brewed and have on tap!
Well, part one of this project involved tearing down a shed, which was actually built as a playhouse for my kids about 25 years ago, by my dad. I then turned it into a shed as they got older. I tell you what - to have a rotten roof and some rotted out walls, the floor is solid as a rock and in pristine condition - he used pressure treated 4x4's and treated plywood, then painted that plywood to protect it...
That complicates things as now I am tempted to build a replacement shed on that foundation, versus just getting an outdoor storage cabinet, which could mean outdoor kitchen stuff gets pushed back. My wife said I ought to build a new one and turn it into a tap-room for the pool, and move my kegerator out there, haha.
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I like the way your wife thinks.
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RonB I think she has an ulterior motive, and thinks I will move all of my brewing equipment to the shed, and out of the garage. Considering I do most brewing in the evening, I don't think I care to try and do that in a small shed with no power or running water! And I can't dump boiling water in the backyard the way I can dump it down the driveway...
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- Nov 2017
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- Huntsville, Alabama
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Jim Morris
Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
- Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
- Weber Genesis II E-410 w/ GrillGrates (2019)
- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
- Custom Built Offset Smoker (304SS, 22"x34" grate, circa 1985)
- King Kooker 94/90TKD 105K/60K dual burner patio stove
- Lodge L8D03 5 quart dutch oven
- Lodge L10SK3 12" skillet
- Anova
- Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
- Thermoworks Dot
- Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
- Whatever I brewed and have on tap!
Well, funny thing was, it only took 2 full years for SWMBO to get me back on this project!
I spent all day this past Saturday digging up monkey grass, a shrub, LOTS AND LOTS of roots, and lots of pea gravel and river rock mixed into red clay... then made some forms to fill in a 2x8 section I always meant to extend, then another 7x9 section past that. I dumped 12 to 15 wheelbarrows of dirt and rock at the end of the house, in a dead area near my HVAC system, where I will ultimately spread it around and put a new layer of mulch over it...
Then yesterday, I grabbed 44 80# bags of concrete at Home Depot along with 10 bags of gravel, and hopped to it this morning with a rental mixer, with my 80 year old dad (he will be 81 in June) acting as my concrete spreader and first stage finisher, while I lifted, mixed and poured.
I did NOT take a final photo, but here is turning the corner...
All in all it took about 2.5 to 3 hours, and I did the final finishing with a bull nose float, only to have my dad ask about an hour later if the Yorkshire terrier was supposed to be walking on it...
She left a trail of footprints that we will forever remember her by across the slab. And unfortunately, at this point we both felt it would do more harm than good to try and fix it. We had moved on to pouring a couple of steps by some deck stairs, and a landing outside my home office door by then.
Leftover was 6 bags of concrete and 4 bags of gravel, which I returned when I took back the mixer this afternoon. All in all, good progress.
So in 24 hours, foot traffic is allowed, and I'll be taking forms off and cleaning up the edge and spilled concrete that went outside the form. I'm going to wait a full week before rolling the kamado or Camp Chef onto this new outdoor kitchen area, but am already starting to think of an L shaped kitchen layout, and which grills will be in it. Either the kamado and flat top and maybe a small sink, or the kamado, flat top, and a place to put the Genesis as well. Options are endless, as are materials...
The concrete has a little slope to it, to continue to run water away from the pool, so any cabinets I build to house stuff can level out the cookers and countertop...
I'll come back here as I have updates, but am excited to have a new new outdoor area to play in this summer! I will also have to have some rules on cannonball contests while cooking, due to being closer to the deep end of the pool than I was before...
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I of course love smoked meats of all kinds, but also like quick cooks like chicken portions, pork tenderloins, steak and fish. Really into cooking of all kinds.
My outdoor kitchen has a Lone Star Grillz Adjustable and it is wonderful. There also is a Pit Boss 5 Burner Ultimate Griddle.
There is an outdoor fire pit that has grilling capability and limited Santa Maria-style grill raising and lowering.
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Napoleon Prestige Pro 500
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- Nov 2021
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- Alexandria, VA
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Pit Boss Copperhead 5 vertical pellet smoker
Weber Spirit 3-burner LPG grill w/GrillGrates
SnS Deluxe Kettle
Joule sous vide wand & tub
SnS-500 4-probe w/RF remote monitor (w/extra probes)
Fireboard 2 w/extra probes
Meater+ Wifi/Bluetooth T probe
ThermoPro instant read
Fluke 62Max IR gun thermometer
Full set Mercer knives
WorkSharp Ken Onion sharpener
Weber toolset (tongs, spatula, etc)
Meat Your Maker 11" vac sealer
Cookbooks: Meathead; Food Lab (Alt-Lopez); Salt Fat Acid Heat (Nosrat)
...and a partidge in a pear treeeeeeeeeee...
Looking great, and how wonderful to have your Dad there working with you! And absolutely, the dog tracks deserve to stay!
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- Nov 2017
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- Huntsville, Alabama
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Jim Morris
Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
- Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
- Weber Genesis II E-410 w/ GrillGrates (2019)
- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
- Custom Built Offset Smoker (304SS, 22"x34" grate, circa 1985)
- King Kooker 94/90TKD 105K/60K dual burner patio stove
- Lodge L8D03 5 quart dutch oven
- Lodge L10SK3 12" skillet
- Anova
- Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
- Thermoworks Dot
- Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
- Whatever I brewed and have on tap!
I went outside and made some measurements of the SNS Kamado and the Camp Chef FTG900 flat top last night, and have a good idea of what I want to do. Made some sketches on the iPad with the Apple Pencil last night, and firmed it up on the computer this morning.
First thought is something like this for the layout, leaving room for a table and 4 chairs in the center of the area. And there is enough room for me to bring a wheeled "guest" grill to the area as needed - the offset, the Genesis or the Performer. The rest of the time those grills will live out of sight in the end yard around the corner.
Basically, the 46 inch long camp chef would come off of its cart, and sit in a recessed area, with the top just above the surrounding concrete counter tops, with about 1 foot past it at the end. Underneath, a double door using some of those stainless BBQ access doors. On the other side of the "L" the kamado would be at the very end, with a small hospitality/prep sink centered in the rest of that side. This gives lots of counter space between the sink and kamado, and in the corner. Double door under the sink to access storage, and to empty the likely 5 gallon bucket I will have under the sink, since I don't plan to do plumbing, and will run a potable water hose from one of the house spigots, under the mulch. So it will be cold water only, for washing hands, rinsing glasses, etc, during the spring/summer/fall.
On the back side of the corner, in the side facing the yard, I would put a single access door, and store a hidden propane tank in the dead space at the corner. I've looked at the Camp Chef, and I just need to put a 90 degree brass fitting to angle its propane regulator hose down, and then get an extension hose to run across inside the cabinets.
I looked at a lot of videos on Youtube last night, and I think I've convinced myself that I will be doing simple 2x4 framing, with something simple like T1-11 siding to cover the outside, painted either to match the house, or painted black. For the top, I am going to make up forms out of melamine, and cast the concrete top with some wire reinforcement inside the slabs. I'll likely need to break the counter into several sections. Obviously a small slab at the SNSK and below the griddle where it sits, and then maybe put a joint at the upper left back corner of the griddle in the picture above.
Anyway, this is a ways off. Got a lot of pressure washing and painting and other stuff to do in the next month to make the backyard presentable, then I will think about this again.
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Jim White I was thinking they made a cement version of the T1-11, or sold it in 4x8 sheets. I have Hardie-plank on the back of the house from an addition we did with it, but it is the overlapping boards with a wood grain, and I would rather not have the overlap joints on something this small. Guess I could do it if I frame the door openings in somehow...
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Reminds me of my collection of cookers in my outdoor kitchen except my Blaze gas grill has a permanent spot. I think that layout will serve you well. I like the guest cooker area. I'm eying an annexed area for my overflow adjacent to my covered area but I'll need to put in some retaining walls and move a lot of dirt before that happens.
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Club Member
- Nov 2017
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- Huntsville, Alabama
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Jim Morris
Cookers- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (2021)
- Camp Chef FTG900 Flat Top Grill (2020)
- Weber Genesis II E-410 w/ GrillGrates (2019)
- Weber Performer Deluxe 22.5" w/ GrillGrates & Slow 'N Sear & Drip N Griddle & Vortex & Party Q & Rotisserie (2007)
- Custom Built Offset Smoker (304SS, 22"x34" grate, circa 1985)
- King Kooker 94/90TKD 105K/60K dual burner patio stove
- Lodge L8D03 5 quart dutch oven
- Lodge L10SK3 12" skillet
- Anova
- Thermoworks Smoke w/ Wifi Gateway
- Thermoworks Dot
- Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
- Thermoworks RT600C
- Weber Connect
- Whatever I brewed and have on tap!
Another issue I've read folks talk about with these outdoor kitchens is pests getting into the drawers and cabinets. A lot of the builds I've seen are open underneath to the concrete below. I think I'll be putting a base inside the accessible areas and making sure it is sealed up nice and tight. For the water inlet, I'll mount a hose hookup on the outside back in the area of the sink, rather than have a simple hole for the hose to go through.
The area I am unsure of putting storage below is under the kamado. Depends on how tall that section ends up being, and whether it needs central support, or if the 2x4 members holding up the slab are sufficient. They probably are, in which case a shorter 20x14 door may work there, giving me a place to put the accessories like the SNS or Vortex.
I am also debating something. If I break this into two cabinets, one with the griddle and LP tank, and one with the sink and kamado, and put them on leveling castors, it could be moved or relocated or taken with me in the future... I would just butt them against each other in the L configuration. If I build it in place, I'll need to take care of leveling the counter top by adjusting height of the various vertical framing members.
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