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    Do I Really need an SnS?

    Ok, Ok. I should have known better. I've been eating healthy, had all my shots, try each day to get a good night's sleep, but it still happened. MCS has struck again! Damn!!

    Don't get me wrong here. I still love my GMG Davy Crockett. It works like a charm, But as I've said before my only regret is that I didn't buy a bigger one. I fixed a 16lb turkey spatchcocked for Thanksgiving. I intended to do it on my DC. It didn't quite fit. I could have jammed it in a little here and there but I was wary of getting it up against the walls of the cook chamber. So I went to my 3 burner gasser. I hadn't done an indirect cook on it before but I did practice on empty ahead of time to be sure I could control the temps and I got pretty good at it. The problem was that I didn't practice in the weather conditions we had on Thursday - 18-25 mph winds directly from the SSW (directly into the back of my gasser) and 40 F +/-. I did manage to get a little bit of a handle on that with a welding blanket over the back of the grill to break the wind a little. But By the time bird was done I had run/walked back and forth from the house to tweak the burners to keep the heat as constant as possible more miles than I have walked in full a day of deer hunting. Temps were running from 250 to 400 depending on how many of the burners had blown out in the wind. I was shooting for 325 - 350. So I said to myself, "Self, we need a bigger cooker that does not have dials on it. "

    Over the years I have looked at the Weber kettles and until I learned here how versatile they can be I always thought they were overpriced for something which simply holds charcoal and gets hot. But I am learning.

    Once I found that they come with both the hinged grate and the removable grate center I have settled on a Weber 22" Master Touch. They also come with what Weber calls ""char baskets". They look much like the SnS without the water reservoir and there are two of them.

    What I don't know is what I hope you experienced SnS users can help me with. Once the charcoal is held to one or two sides away from the center of the grate does the water reservoir in the SnS really make that much difference? My thinking is that when needed I can always put a water pan below the cook grate and accomplish the same thing. I don't mind spending the extra $30-$40 but if I don't need it I can spend it on something else.

    Any and all advice would be most appreciated.

    P.S. I cooked the bird from Meathead's recipe with the S&G rub and gravy adjusted for my wife's taste for less sage. It came out superb. I would have included a photo but I didn't want to waste the bandwidth - it looked just like all of the other wonderfully cooked spatchcocked turkeys seen on this site. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

    #2
    Yes! I’ve been using my SNS XL in my 26” for about a year now, and it really is an amazing tool. I don’t think a pan of water below the grate is comparable to a vertical wall of water between your fire and your food. There are others more experienced than I that will chime in, but... yes! 👍🏻

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      #3
      Get the SnS, the water tray really helps you dial in low temps. I have the baskets as well and rarely use them as I find the SnS to be superior.

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ID:	597117 I have the SnS and the Weber baskets. Still use both according to whatever I'm cooking. Before SnS I used a foil pan as a drip pan and water holder. I use the baskets for things like salmon, fish placed in between the baskets, kabobs, I surround the baskets with skewers to do indirect. SnS is for low and slow, indirect and reverse searing. They both have a place in my grill.
        Last edited by HawkerXP; November 24, 2018, 04:37 PM.

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          #5
          I have an XL Sns fir my 26. While you don't need it, it's the best charcoal basket I've seen. So I'm glad I have it. My 26 came with Weber charcoal baskets and they are tiny in comparison to the XL SnS. I use them on my Jumbo and Smokey Joes instead.

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            #6
            People have their own opinions. I LOVE my Slow N' Sear! I've had so much fun and success cooking on my Weber Kettle with that tool. I frankly can't imagine cooking on my kettle without it.

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            • PJBowmaster
              PJBowmaster commented
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              I live in Spearfish full time now. I had been sharing time between here and Michigan. Let me know if you are going to be in town. I'll meet you at Crow Peak for beers....

            • wu7y
              wu7y commented
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              That would be great. We may be coming over on Friday 11/30 on our way to Rapid. My wife will be shopping for some clothes and she usually stops at the ladies store downtown. If the weather cooperates we can arrange to meet. Thanks.

            • PJBowmaster
              PJBowmaster commented
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              Sounds good! Send me a PM and we can set it up. PJ

            #7
            Thanks for the input/info everyone. I think you have made my mind up for me. I love doing low and slow but I can't always get the chunk of protein in the DC

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              #8
              Echo the above. The SNS holds more charcoal for longer cooks, and the water pan, which I don’t always use, does seem to help with steady temp. I would recommend it.

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                #9
                One more story:

                I have been using a kettle for many years, but did not smoke in it. Then I purchased the char baskets, and tried smoking with them. Controlling temps was not easy. Then I heard about the Smokenator 1000 and bought that. The results were better, but the Smokenator required a lot of tending, and was not fun.
                After joining the Pit, I read comments about the SnS. It took me a while, but when I did buy one, it was a revelation. Controlling temps became much easier, and I started to enjoy cookin' low and slow. And between the SnS and The Pit, my food quickly became much better.

                I Love the SnS.

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                • Black99vette
                  Black99vette commented
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                  I have been down the same road, as I would imagine many others here have as well.

                • Troutman
                  Troutman commented
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                  Dang good story, says it all. Besides a fan controller, the SNS is the best upgrade you can make to a Weber kettle. (Ok Dave you know where to mail my check)

                #10
                It's probly safe to say that I own more than one Weber kettle, an I have found th SnS to be an invaluable game changer...

                True, with enough work, an constant fussin, mebbe I can do th same things without it, but havin it significantly reduces alla that nonsense...

                I have three SnS 1.0's fer my 22.5's, one SnS XL fer my 26.75, an a ABC Slow ‘N Sear® Charcoal Basket fer my 18.5 kettle, an Jumbo Joe...

                Each of these was purchased with my hard-earned money, not given in sponsorship, etc.


                So, in my experience, either they work really well, or I'm jus a v e r y s l o w l e a r n e r ...yer call, there!

                Like HawkerXP stated, above, I still use th baskets, under certain circumstances. I also have a Vortex, which I love, an use often.

                Jus different tools, in th toolbox...

                In additional answer to yer query, yes, th water reservoir makes a difference, it provides sufficient thermal mass to help protect th foods I'm cookin, an, of course, provides moisture to th cookin chamber...

                Again, I would have to rotate/flip/re-arrange much more often, without it to prevent uneven cookin...

                Please, feel free to contact me, if ya have any further questions that I might be able to assist with...

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                • Black99vette
                  Black99vette commented
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                  Mr. Bones - I found it funny because I was 99% sure you had more than one Weber. I would question can a person into grilling one have one kettle?

                • Mr. Bones
                  Mr. Bones commented
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                  Oh, it's all more than good, Amigo!
                  I found it funny that ya found me funny!
                  Plus, yer at least 99% right...
                  One kettle? Don't rightly see how, but there are many men better than myself...

                • Troutman
                  Troutman commented
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                  Yea +2 on the Vortex only because it's so cheap, beat bang for the buck. Having said that, you can do what the Vortex does with the SNS, just not quite as well.

                #11
                One word answer: YES

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                  #12
                  Like they all said, yup. I also got the drip pan. Not necessary, but it cleans up very easily. You can just use disposable foil pans, but the drip pan fits well and looks cool. Or maybe it is just mcs.

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                  • Mr. Bones
                    Mr. Bones commented
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                    Or maybe it is just mcs.
                    Nah, Brother...

                    It DOES Look Cool!!!

                  #13
                  Again, thanks to all for sharing their experience and advice. And, after re-reading my original post - boy, am I embarrassed! "Do I really need 'an' smoke and sear?" My 8th grade English teacher (many more years ago than I care to admit) would be rolling in her grave. It should read, "Do I really need 'a' smoke and sear?" My apologies to all grammar experts out there.

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                  • Mr. Bones
                    Mr. Bones commented
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                    HeeHee, good catch!
                    I'm kinda picky bout grammar, an such, my dang self lol!

                  • Buck Flicks
                    Buck Flicks commented
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                    Acquisition of the device is appropriate, no matter the grammar. The reservoir definitely makes a difference. It's a more effective heat sink than a drip pan full of water. And the SnS holds more coals, as mentioned above. It also has superior air control for long cooks, in my opinion. As well, the taller SnS holds the coals closer to the grill for searing.

                    A/n SnS Can't be beat.

                  #14
                  Whatever the current count is +1 for the SnS.

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                    #15
                    I do not have a Weber kettle nor a SnS .... but if I bought a kettle, I would immediately buy a SnS too. Not just for low and slow. From what I can see, it enables reverse sear for a steak that is about 95% of what I can achieve with my Hasty-Bake, which is quite a bit more expensive than a 22” weber + SnS ..... so, there’s that.

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