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  • Thunder77
    Founding Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 2747
    • Halethorpe, MD
    • Weber 26.75" Kettle with SnS. Broil King Baron 5 burner. Akorn Kamado, and Akorn Jr kamado. Primo Oval Junior. Love grilling steaks, ribs, and chicken. Need to master smoked salmon Favorite cool weather beer: Sam Adams Octoberfest Favorite warm weather beer: Yuengling Traditional Lager All-time favorite drink: Single Malt Scotch

    Help Me Decide

    Since I am considered an “essential worker” and I must head to work every day, I have decided to gift myself with a new cooker. (Really it is just MCS, I am using this as an excuse.)

    Anyhoo, I am pondering the merits of the Weber Summit Charcoal Grill, the Primo XL, and the SnS Kamado. All three have their good points. I have wanted a WSCG for a long time. I love my Primo Junior, but need more real estate. The SnS kamado looks cool, and I would like to support our very own Dave Parrish.

    Because of weight issues, (the grill, not me) I am leaning towards the WSCG. Price is not an object here.

    I generally cook for 4-6 people, and sometimes for company. I like low n slow smoking, hot and fast, and anything in between. I have a Broil King Baron 5 burner gasser, and a Weber 26, and an Akorn. The Akorn will be going away.

    Thoughts from the Pitmasters?
  • Andrrr
    Club Member
    • May 2019
    • 333
    • Wisconsin
    • WSM 22”
      WSCG
      Weber Kettle 22”
      Weber Smokey Joe

    #2
    No experience with primo XL or SnS and I've only had the WSCG for maybe a month but I really like it. Good amount of realestate with the grate. I only ever cooked on my Weber kettle and with the info in this channel I've found temp control to be very easy, pretty forgiving and consistent. Lots of room for charcoal in the smoking configuration. I've yet to test the limits on the duration of the burn but I intend to do that this weekend overnight on a pork butt. I imagine it will be fine. No option for a SnS for the WSCG but I haven't found myself needing it really and if I really did need it I just use my kettle.

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    • Andrrr
      Andrrr commented
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      I should add that I picked up the WSCG because I got a insanely good deal on a 1 year old one for $600. Before that I was in the same boat as you are but circumstances made my decision easy. I'd probably still be trying to make a decision!
  • LA Pork Butt
    Charter Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 5356
    • Grew up in New Orleans, lived in Texas for 20 years, lived in Mandeville, LA for 22 years. I now liv

    #3
    If weight is the issue, the Weber makes sense. If weight is not an issue then it is whatever Kamado will give you the most real estate

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    • HouseHomey
      Club Member
      • May 2016
      • 5265
      • Huntington Beach, Ca. Surf City USA.
      • Equipment
        Primo Oval xl

        Slow n Sear (two)
        Drip n Griddle
        22" Weber Kettle
        26" Weber Kettle one touch
        Blackstone 36” Pro Series
        Sous vide machine
        Kitchen Aid
        Meat grinder
        sausage stuffer
        5 Crock Pots
        Akootrimonts
        Two chimneys (was 3 but rivets finally popped, down to 1)
        cast iron pans,
        Dutch ovens
        Signals 4 probe, thermapens, chef alarms, Dots, thermapop and maverick T-732, RTC-600, pro needle and various pocket instareads.
        The help and preferences
        1 extra fridge and a deep chest freezer in the garage
        KBB
        FOGO
        A 9 year old princess foster child
        Patience and old patio furniture
        "Baby Girl" The cat

        Erik S.

      #4
      I do love my kettles. The 22 and the 26. I use KBB exclusively in them. Bbbuuuutttttttt....... The PrimoXL!

      My primo is one fine piece of work. Deflector plates, kick ash Can and basket are a must. I have the two extended raised cooking grates as well. I’m gonna load it up one of these days coming.

      For me the cast iron divider and cast iron grate are still in the box. Likely won’t ever need them but I bought them. I have the divider for the Kick ash basket.

      Get the Primo man, the one with the new hinge. Also the flavor that FOGO puts on is amazing.


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      • painter
        painter commented
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        +1
    • Troutman
      Club Member
      • Aug 2017
      • 7197

      • OUTDOOR COOKERS

        BBQ ACCESSORIES

        WOOD & PELLET PREFERENCES

        SOUS VIDE

        INDOOR COOKWARE


      #5
      Don’t have any experience with any of those cookers, but what I do know is that every time I choose a smaller cooker over a larger one, I’ve invariably kicked myself in the ass.

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      • Mr. Bones
        Mr. Bones commented
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        ^^^^Words of Wisdom^^^^

        My experience has been likewise; never cussed myself, an said "Main, wish I'da bought me a smaller cooker!"
        Never.
        Last edited by Mr. Bones; April 16, 2020, 09:59 PM.

      • MTurney
        MTurney commented
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        Amen. Have made that mistake....twice 🤦🏻‍♂️
    • surfdog
      Club Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 1085
      • Sunny SoCal
      • Cooking gadgets
        Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center
        Weber Summit Platinum D6
        Blue Rhino Razor
        Dyna-Glo XL Premium Dual Chamber
        Camp Chef Somerset IV along with their Artisan Pizza Oven 90
        Anova WiFi

        Thermometers
        Thermapen Mk4 - ThermaQ High Temp Kit - ThermaQ Meathead Kit - ThermaQ WiFi - ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S - ThermoWorks Signals & Billows - ThermoPop -ThermoWorks ProNeedle - ThermoWorks TimeStick Trio x2 - and a Christopher Kimball timer - NO, I do not work for ThermoWorks...I just like their products.

        Other useful bits...
        KitchenAid 7-qt Pro Line stand mixer
        A Black & Decker food processor that I can't seem to murder
        A couple of immersion blenders, one a "consumer" model & the other a "high end" Italian thing. Yes, the Italian one is a bit better, but only marginally
        Instant Pot Duo Evo Plus 8-qt + accessories like egg-bite & egg holders
        All-Clad pots & pans, along with some cast iron...everything from 7" Skookie pans to 8.5qt Dutch ovens
        Weber GBS griddle, pizza stone, and wok
        Knives range from Mercer to F. Dick to "You spent how much for one knife? One knife?!" LOL

      #6
      Well, I love my Summit. It has quite a lot of real estate...and handles “kettle mode” like any Weber kettle. Two zone is a breeze. In “kamado mode” it behaves like a kamado...but reaction time to adjustment is faster...especially if the temp is over shot. Seems much easier to tame. That said, I’ve not used the other two.

      I’ve grilled, smoked, & baked on it. One of my favourite cookers ever. And while it’s not necessary, a vortex turns it into a wing cooking machine. I also have the additional raised grate for the extremely rare occasion when even more space is needed. (Doesn’t get used much. LOL)

      One of the deciding factors for me was also the weight. I tend to not stay put for years on end...and didn’t want to move a big ceramic. Even though I’ve only contemplated moving a couple times since getting it, it HAS been moved a few times on the patio. Rearranging as new toys have been added. Easy enough to do alone... But the XL is only slightly heavier, albeit without a table...but that easily could have wheels. So perhaps not a major factor.

      I think you’d probably be happy with any of them, even if I am biased to the Weber.
      Last edited by surfdog; April 16, 2020, 07:43 PM.

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      • Andrrr
        Andrrr commented
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        I’m kinda thinking the same thing. I highly doubt you’ll have buyers remorse with any of them

      • HouseHomey
        HouseHomey commented
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        I have to agree.
    • Mosca
      Charter Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 3365
      • PA
      • Large Big Green Egg, Weber Performer Deluxe, Weber Smokey Joe Silver, Maverick 732, DigiQ, and too much other stuff to mention.

      #7
      If price isn’t an issue get a Komodo Kamado.

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      • Thunder77
        Thunder77 commented
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        I should clarify that I meant the price range of the Primo and the WSCG
    • CaptainMike
      Club Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 2476
      • The Great State of Jefferson
      • Weber Summit Charcoal Grill w/SnS and DnG (Spartacus)
        Old school big'ol Traeger w/Pro controller (Big Tex)
        2 W22's w/SnS, DnG (1 black, 1 copper) (Minions 1 and 2)
        20+ y/o many times rebuilt Weber Genesis w/GrillGrates (Gas Passer)
        20 x 30 Santa Maria grill (Maria, duh)
        Bradley cabinet smoker (Pepper Gomez)
        36" Blackstone griddle (The Black Beauty)
        Fireboard
        Thermoworks Smoke and Thermapen.

      #8
      You know what I'm going to say.

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      • HawkerXP
        HawkerXP commented
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        Pbc?

      • Troutman
        Troutman commented
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        Wsm?

      • HouseHomey
        HouseHomey commented
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        Whiskey.
    • DavidNorcross
      Club Member
      • Nov 2017
      • 1507
      • Virginia
      • Rec Tec RT-680
        Coleman RoadTrip LXX
        Javelin Pro Duo
        More Cast Iron than I care to admit

      #9
      My vote with be with the SNS...

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      • Skip
        Founding Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 3299
        • Blue Earth, Minnesota
        • MAK Pellet Grill, Large BGE, Weber Kettle with SnS, Weber Gasser, Pit Barrel Cooker, Cast Iron Pans & Griddle, Grill Grates, Mostly Thermoworks Thermometers

        #10
        You said you were leaning toward the WSCG and that weight was an issue-----sooo, go with your gut. Be sure to let us know what you go with.

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        • fzxdoc
          Founding Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 5076
          • My toys:
            Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
            Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
            Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
            Weber Kettle Premium 22"
            Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
            Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


            Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
            Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
            Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
            Grill Grate for SnS
            Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
            Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser
            2 Grill Grate Griddles
            Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill

            Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
            Fireboard control unit in addition to that in the Extreme BBQ Package
            Additional Fireboard probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
            2 Fireboard Driver Cables
            Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
            Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
            Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
            Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
            Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
            Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
            Thermoworks Timestick Trio
            Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
            Maverick ET 733
            Maverick (Ivation) ET 732

            Grill Pinz
            Vortex (two of them)

            Two Joule Sous Vide devices
            VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
            Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
            Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
            Charcoal Companion TurboQue
            A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

            BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

            Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
            Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
            Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
            Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

          #11
          Hate to sound like a broken wheel here, but get the WSCGC. You won't regret it. Great real estate, rock solid, easy to move, and man-oh-man is it ever versatile. Everything you ever wanted a bigger kettle for is there. Plus it's a heckuva kamado. I love everything about mine from the construction to the size to the great food it puts out.

          I am lucky enough to have a SnS for it and use it all the time for smaller cooks when I don't need to fire up the kamado. I know Dave isn't making them any more, but since he just had an offer for a special run of 26" kettle sized SnSs, I think if enough people hound him, he may re-release (limited) the WSCGC one as well.

          Plus all Dave's other accessories work great on it, like the DnG and Raised Grate.

          I'm waiting for Old Glory to chime in here. That may tip the balance. He purchased his WSCGC relatively recently and has used the heck out of it.

          Kathryn

          PS get the medium Vortex for it if you don't already have one and that Weber coal hoe thingy.
          Last edited by fzxdoc; April 17, 2020, 06:59 AM.

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          • Troutman
            Troutman commented
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            Is a "coal hoe" the same thing as a prostitute from West Virginia ???

          • fzxdoc
            fzxdoc commented
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            You bad boy, Troutman.

            K.

          • GroceryBoy
            GroceryBoy commented
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            Read the reviews of the owners. WSCG is the best cooker I own! You won’t regret it.
        • au4stree
          Former Member
          • Aug 2018
          • 554
          • Birmingham, AL

          #12
          Well, I am in the unique position having owned the WSCGC and currently own the Primo XL. Although, my reasons for selling the weber were not related to the performance of the grill, but rather I wanted a custom built table. Thus the reason I own a Primo XL. Given your criteria I'd buy the WSCGC and not even blink. It is a wonderful cooker......it's lighter, won't crack, great customer service and produces great food. Ash management is nice, you're already familiar with kettle cooking, so set ups won't be an issue. As mentioned above, temp adjustments when in kamado mode is great. Lot's of reasons to get a WSCGC.

          Now, if you want a custom table.....that's another story.........

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          • Andrrr
            Andrrr commented
            Editing a comment
            I love the WSCG. Now I'm contemplating selling it to get the WSCGC. The table would be so nice

          • fzxdoc
            fzxdoc commented
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            The WSCGC is so nice, Andrrr . You got such a good price for your WSCG that selling it might indeed enable you to get the WSCGC. Good luck with that shuffle.

            Kathryn
        • Old Glory
          Club Member
          • Feb 2018
          • 896
          • Northshore MA
          • Weber Summit Charcoal Grill
            XL BGE
            DCS Gasser
            Humphrey's Cabinet Smoker
            Weber Performer

            Slow & Sear
            Vortex
            Ceramic Grill Store Reducer Ring
            Woo Rig;
            Adjustable Rig
            BGE Pizza Stone
            FireBoard
            Pit Bull Fan
            Griddle Store Griddle

          #13
          Hi I posted this in another thread. I do love the WSCG. It is so versatile. I use it at least 3-4 times per week. With the two level grate it is super easy to switch between cooking modes: Hot Fast or Two zone to Full Kamado.

          "I have a WSCG and a BGE XL and I have cooked on both.

          BGE Pros:
          More mass with the ceramics. They take longer to heat up but stay hotter longer and may be slightly more stable.
          Great Low and Slow
          Can get really hot for good searing
          More like an oven I do feel you get more heat radiating out of the thick ceramic walls.
          I would choose the BGE for Pizzas
          I have a Woo Ring and the Ceramic Grill Store plate setter so I can pull out the grill grate and plate setter to add charcoal.

          BGE Cons:
          Takes longer to heat up ceramic mass
          More mass means that it is harder to bring temps down if you overshoot target.
          Heavy and fragile.
          Not as good at two zone or direct grilling.
          Need rig to lower grill grate to get closer to fire
          Have to pull everything out to add chunks and charcoal
          Need to pull everything to clean ash

          WSCG Pros:
          Good at Low and Slow
          Insulated to hold heat and remain stable yet less mass means you can correct temps if you overshoot.
          Great at direct and two zone cooking
          Sears very well
          Fire grate has two levels.
          Easier to switch out heat deflectors
          Easier to add wood chunks and more charcoal because of hinged grate and deflector
          Lighter not fragile
          Gas Assist lighting
          Easier to clean ash

          WSCG Cons:
          Less mass means less stability and less oven like cooking
          BGE better at pizza (I assume)
          Longevity not proven


          These are just my initial thoughts

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          • Attjack
            Club Member
            • Aug 2017
            • 3968
            • Primo XL
              Weber 26"
              Weber 22"
              Weber 22"
              Weber 18"
              Weber Jumbo Joe
              Weber Green Smokey Joe (Thanks, Mr. Bones!)
              Weber Smokey Joe
              Orion Smoker

              DigiQ DX2
              Slow 'N Sear XL
              Arteflame 26.75" Insert

              Blaze BLZ-4-NG 32-Inch 4-Burner Built-In
              - With Rear Infrared Burner
              - With Infrared Sear Burner
              - With Rotisserie
              Empava 2 Burner Gas Cooktop
              Weber Spirit 210
              - With Grillgrates
              ​​​​​​​ - With Rotisserie
              Weber Q2200

              Blackstone Pizza Oven

              Portable propane burners (3)
              Propane turkey Fryer

              Fire pit grill

            #14
            I love my Primo XL but it sounds like you want a WSCG so that's what you should get.

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            • glitchy
              Club Member
              • Jul 2019
              • 590
              • Central IA
              • Weber Summit Charcoal Grill
                w/ Big Joetisserie, SnS LP, and Vortex
                Weber SmokeFire EX4
                Weber Q1000
                Fireboard 2 Drive
                Anova Precision Sous Vide

              #15
              You probably know I’ve had a few grills and even though I use the pellet grills more, the WSCG would probably be the last I would get rid of. It will just do anything I ask of it and very well. However, I have not tried a ceramic for comparison.

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