Hot dogs do not need beans! only chilli if you prefer. My self I just like mustard and hot sauce!
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Beans in good chili makes as much sense as ketchup on a good ribeye. You can do it, but?Comment
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With or without beans, the best part of making chili stirring the pot, no?Comment
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Sort of like making the roux is the best part of cooking gumbo. The time it takes to get to the different stages is measured in beers consumed. I usually aim for the color of Modelo Negra, but by the time I get there I've lost count of how many beers I've consumed.Last edited by gcdmd; December 13, 2022, 09:21 AM.
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Some folk.. you try and try to give some edumacation and nowlegeible but they keep on eatin the books.. Chili ain't gots no beans. Beans are a whole other meal. The only time you might add beans is when you don't actually have any chili, and you just have beans to eat. For the record, chili also ain't gots no cinnamon, chocolate, or served over pasta...Comment
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Easy Big Fella! Cincy boy all my life n now yer barkin up the wrong tree. Now we are talkin 5 way! Wet w/hot sauce n oyster crackers!💥 -
oh, @ Alan Brice I only speak the truth and have never barked up a tree, wrong
or otherwise... If you want skeddy, make a proper skeddy sauce and serve it over pasta... You want chocolate, get an Avent calendar....
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Chili is chili. It is still chili with or without beans. "Hot dog sauce" aka "coney sauce" is a different animal altogether. It is not chili. It's actually a condiment. It's exclusively made for a coney dog and is not meant to be eaten in a bowl with a spoon. A classic coney is a skin-on frank (that has a 'snap' when bitten into) a zesty/spicy coney sauce, yellow mustard and chopped white onion served in a steamed bun. The proportions need to be so that it can be eaten by hand - if a fork and knife are required, it has too much coney sauce on it. It's all about balance.Comment
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I never said it was a coney island hotdog.
I said THE NAME is Coney Island Hotdogs. I even
told you WHERE it was and WHEN it was established.
Leading horse to water...
I did say CHILI is NOT MENTIONED on their MENU.
I even called it THEIR CHILI LIKE TOPPING.
It has NO BEANS.
Over 100 years in business... What you got?Last edited by Allon; December 12, 2022, 09:16 PM.
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JeffJ has it correct. As in any coney shop in Detroit or the surrounding area. Maybe even the entire state. And, for the record, chili has beans. Texas style chili does not, hence the "texas style".Comment
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Admittedly, I did try one once. I was on an install in Atlanta and went to the Varisty (by Georgia tech) and had a chili dog (by their standards) and an orange cream slushy milkshake thing. I was really happy o didn’t have to board the plane that afternoon. Never touched the stuff again.Comment
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There used to be a very small chain of hot dog stands in the San Fernando Valley where I grew up named Cupid's. The first one was just around the corner from the Van Nuys City Hall. Just a simple stand, one window, long lines. All they served, originally, was chili dogs. MOC - mustard, onion, chili. No beans, very similar to Tommy's Original if you are familiar with that historic, and still going, chili burgers/tamales, chili fries. Used to serve bottle of Nehi soda out of a tub filled with ice. Glorious. No beans.Comment
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SheilaAnn Yup, we regularly go to the one on El Toro in Laguna Woods. Ironically, it is around the corner from my cardiologist. We eat there, then take home a tub of the chili, freeze batches and use to make our own chili dogs at home - oh, sorry, hot dog sauce dogs. 😎 -
I've been to Cupids a few times about 30+ years ago, don't really remember it, but do recall the sign. Probably went to the Anaheim location but possibly LA. Unless they used to have a store closer to Riverside, it would have been on trips from Coachella to go to Disney or an Angels game or on one of our many drives to SF.
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Love me a good Tommy burger. I always find Tommy's when in the area or in Las Vegas.Comment
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Everybody knows this is what goes on a hotdog! Adding mustard and raw onion acceptable.
Rochester-style hot sauce (I.E. Garbage plate)
Warning: this is not the original Nick Tahou’s (but I do believe it is close)
Ingredients
3 cups onion, chopped 2 lbs. ground beef
1 tsp. thyme
2 Tbsp. black pepper 1⁄4 tsp. cinnamon
2 Tbsp. cayenne pepper 1 tsp. crushed red pepper 3 tsp. paprika
1 tsp. marjoram
2 Tbsp. garlic powder
1⁄2 cup vegetable oil
1 1⁄2 cups water
Directions
Sauté the onion in a little of the vegetable oil until clear. Add ground beef, spices and oil and stir. Break the hamburger down into small pieces when browning. Slowly add water, mix well and simmer for 2 hours, stirring occasionally.
Not chili!Comment
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Okay, so I guess I am going to have to shut this conversation down once and for all. The moderator will need to cut off all conversation once and for all about what is Chili.
The greatest, and Texas, authority, Don Henley says.. "the word "chili" (pronounced "chee-lee"), is an Aztec word, but the Spanish version commonly used now is chile (pronounced "chee-lay"). Both words refer to the fruit of the "Capsicum annuum" plant, which was, because of its piquancy, misnamed "pepper" (after the black pepper-corn of the East Indies), by the Spanish explorers. This practice of mislabeling things because the are "like" other things has been going on for centuries and is something that musicians, particularly, have come to know and abhor. The labelers have given us such gems as "country rock", "jazz fusion" (melted jazz?), "Dylanesque", "adult contemporary", "pop-rock", dance music", "punk", "post punk" and my least favorite, "New Age" music. Who does this stuff? I don't know, but then I don't know who names streets either. At any rate, there are roughly 200 different types of chilies in the world and nobody knows the names of all of them. So, when we refer to a dish as "chili", what we really mean is "chili (or chile), con carne"—chili peppers with meat. Somewhere along the line, the "con carne" was dropped, additional spices were added and the "chili" that we know today evolved. Unfortunately, this evolutionary process also produced several aberrations which cannot be called anything but hog slop. In fact, let's get one thing straight right now: True, authentic "chili" does not—I repeat, NOT—have beans in it, or cinnamon, chocolate, or served over pasta. Beans are a separate dish to be relished and revered in their own right. When you put beans in chili, you insult both the beans AND the chili."
I am a Colorado native who grew up across this great country (a west Texas army brat), and anyone that besmirches what chili is besmirches Don Henley, well we knew a commie when we found one and just got a rope (not to do them harm, but just to properly restrain them while proper authorities came and took them away as we were and are properly civilized). Having shut down this conversation, we know that proper Chili Sauce only comes from Wolf Brand.Comment
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Hot Dog equals a good bun. spicy mustard and sauerkraut. I like Feltmans with casing. Grilled, air fried. Not boiled. It's that simple.Comment
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That's a good one...
I always get my hotdogs eating out at Coney Island Hotdogs (then business not the hotdog) hotdogs in one of two ways:
1) Sauce & onions
2) Sauce, onion & cheese
At home, it depends how much time I have. I like a good snappy Kayem hotdog with Goulden's SBM & onions. Grilled or even put some smoke on it.
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Hot dogs in a bun only require yellow mustard. Now if I decide I want a chili dog, then I put chili, onions, cheese on top and eat with a fork. And yes, my chili does have beans because that’s the way I like it. 😁Comment
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My system rejects beans, so any chili without beans is fine by me.Comment
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