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    It's cold, snowy, and soooo ... time for a bread experiment, right? I've been hearing and reading a lot about "no knead bread" lately (and, I'll admit, shuddering a little every time I do). Recently, "My Bread: The Revolutionary No-Work, No-Knead Method" (shudder) went on sale for a couple of bucks for the Kindle version so I bought it ... sort of a "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" thing, I guess.

    The first thing I discovered is that the author (and the most recent "father" of no-knead bread) isn't just suffering from laziness. He's been studying bread making methods of Ancient Rome, Pompeii, etc., for a while now and has concluded that, back before there were "bakers", people just mixed flour, water, salt (probably together as sea water), and whatever they used as yeast together ... plopped it in a container so it could ferment for a day or so, then cooked it in an enclosed pot inside a larger oven. Thus, "no-knead" (they'd never thunk of such a thing back then) bread was born.

    Skip to Thanksgiving weekend 2023 and, having no desire to venture outside, I thought I'd give Lahey's Basic No-Knead Bread technique a try.

    I have to say that I'm not unimpressed.

    I mixed a total of 700 g of flour, water, salt, and yeast together and let it do its thing at room temperature for 18 hours. Sorry that I didn't snap a "before" pic ... but it ultimately expanded to four times its original volume:

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    After a second 90 minute rise/proof (things rise faster at higher altitudes), the goopy 82% hydration mess was coaxed into the lid of an inverted 5-qt Lodge DO, then baked at 475º F covered for 30 minutes before being uncovered and baked nekked for another 20 minutes:

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    Ultimately, I didn't let it brown as much as Lahey seems to like (a.k.a. blackened in my book) and it popped out looking pretty OK:

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    My conclusions:
    • It was a smaller than usual loaf. There wasn't enough of it to "crawl" up the sides of the DO while covered.
    • Oven spring was therefore a bit minimal (but consistent with pics I've seen online and in Lahey's book).
    • The crumb was really nice. Tender, sweet, and with none of those ugly "mouse holes" that just really tend to bug me.
    • The crust was equal parts crunchy and chewy.

    All-in-all, I'm forced to admit that the "no-knead movement" isn't totally nuts. Personally, I'm unlikely to give up on my slightly more modern (by a few thousand years 🥸) approach to baking bread ... but this was a pretty darn pleasant surprise (made even better by copious amounts of butter for taste-testing).
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    My regular bread bake again. I did have an oops moment though. I always double the recipe so that I can make a loaf and some rolls, and I use my kitchen scale to weigh the dough balls for the rolls - normally 40 g each. And I place a piece of acrylic on the scale to weigh the dough so that I don't have to clean the scale.

    I didn't notice that the corner of the acrylic was resting on a pill bottle, so all the weights for the rolls were over by ~ 10 g, and I didn't get as many rolls as I had planned. After a WTF moment, I looked around and finally notice the offending pill bottle.

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      You should have weighed correctly because those 10 rolls are mine lol.

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      • RonB
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        Sorry, but there are only 9 now. Quality control is important.

      • Clawbear57
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        Noo.................o.

      More holiday bakes.

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      I made cheese straws.

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      Mari Jo made baklava. Winner, no contest.

      Finis

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      • Clawbear57
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        I like.

      • Purc
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        +1 on the baklava, they look great.

      SWMBO asked for some Challah and I was happy to oblige. She asked why there was so much of the crust that did not turn brown. I told here the bread had a great rise and that the lighter areas were actually a good thing. I'm not sure she believed me...

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      • Draznnl
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        Looks great!

      • RonB
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        WayneT - we are doing a Hanukkah dinner Sun night. My Wife invited some friends that have never been to one.

        BTW She is looking for a good latke recipe. Do you have one you like?

      • WayneT
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        RonB One of our close friends has done the latkes for the past few years so I’ve been out of the latke recipe loop. Sorry.

      No knead (or low knead, really. I did a couple stretch and folds) bahn mi.

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      Getting closer to the bahn mi texture I want. The crust was about perfect but the crumb was a bit too dense. Getting there, though and if someone handed me a sandwich on one of these I ain't gonna be mad at it.

      OTOH, one of these days I'll get this baguette shaping thing down

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      We all live in a yellow submarine ...

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      • Thunder77
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        You might try either letting them proof slightly longer, and/or slashing a bit deeper. That explosion out the side is from too much steam with nowhere to escape. Try holding your blade at about a 30 degree angle to the bread, and don’t be afraid to slash deeper!

      • Thunder77
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        Beautiful work though! Like you said, if someone gave me a sammich with that bread, I would NOT be mad! 😎
        Last edited by Thunder77; December 12, 2023, 01:25 PM.

      • mnavarre
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        Actually, the big ol' lump was from not getting the seam sealed good enough and shaping issues. Part of it was I used too much yeast, I could literally feel this thing fermenting as I was shaping the bahn mi. It made the dough very hard to work with.

      Holiday baking continues unabated.

      More cheese straws.

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      Stollen in steps.

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      At least one more batch of each before the week is out.

      Finis

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      • Thunder77
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        I have that exact same mixer in that same color! 😎

      Yet more extruded cheese product.

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      <Yawn> I know this is getting redundant but I’m stuck in a pattern.

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      Another three loaves of Stollen.

      But wait, I’m breaking out of the rut, thanks to RonB and an upcoming Hanukkah party tonight.

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      Challah!

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        Richard Chrz This is my test batch using the Ankarsrum mixer for a 75% hydration dough to make 4 loaves. I decided to go for it and use the roller instead of the dough hook. It did seem to take longer for the dough to come together but once it did, it was really nice. After my counter rise I gave it a 4 day cold ferment before shaping and baking.
        Dough after cold fermentation (With tub scrapings on top)
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        The crumb from the first loaf
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        My taste tester was the restaurant owner next door who said I should definitely keep the new mixer..

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        • Richard Chrz
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          SheilaAnn it is worth every penny if you are making bread, pizza dough, etc..

        • Thunder77
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          Beautiful crumb on that!! 👍

        • Thunder77
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          Donw, I have a pour shield that fits the rim of the bowl, which helps a lot.

        Broke out og my pretzel rolls and baguette rut, with a chocolate walnut babka from Joy of Cooking.
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        • Richard Chrz
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          I’d take ton of insulin to eat that!

        Absolutely my first attempt at bread baking. Used the New York Times no knead recipe: 3 1/3 cups AP, 1/4 teaspoon yeast, 1 1/2 cups warm water, 2 tsp kosher salt. Let it rise for 16 hours, punched it down/folded twice and let it rise for 2 more hours. Baked 30 minutes covered in 450 degree preheated DO then lid off for 15 minutes. I'm amazed !


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        Looks great. Bread and pasta are 2 things I want to try to make.

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        • Richard Chrz
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          Jump in and start, can not do them a second time until you do it the first time,

        • SheilaAnn
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          Purc do it! Richard Chrz is not wrong. Jump in! While I feel good about my bread, my pasta lacks. And I will keep practicing!

        • RonB
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          Watch the link I posted just above your post. You can start with the first iteration.

        Sugar cookies! These got 2nd last year at our church bake off and 2/3 of them are for my wife’s piano recital reception.
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          First 12 loaves being baked this week. These were baked as part of my monthly bake for a fundraiser that raises money to help pay our school districts, student lunch deficit.

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          • Smoker_Boy
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            Richard Chrz That's a very nice gesture on your part.

          • troymeister
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            This loaves are stunningly Beautiful!

          • Draznnl
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            Love the concept of that fundraiser. Oh and nice looking loaves too.

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