My church group wants me to smoke this 32 pound top round sirloin. Need some guidance. I’m thinking of cutting into 3 10 pound pieces and smoking low and slow at 225. I have a few questions:
1. How long will it take? I need it ready at noon and can hold it in a cooler for at least 2 hours.
Likely even choice will be very lean and a little tough. Medium rare pit beef approach would be my suggestion. Hard to be upset with the "church group", but I hate it when someone hands me a cheap piece of meat and wants me to smoke/cook it. It's an honor to be asked, but personally I would rather just know how many people, and buy the meat myself. (Rant over...)
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This is a difficult cut for low n slow. As HorseDoctor notes, pit beef is a better approach. Top round is also a good cut for Italian beef, though pit beef may have broader appeal and is easier to manage for a large crowd.
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Hard to say exactly what I'd do unless that chunk of meat was right in front of me and I were in your exact shoes, but I think I agree with the above. Cut it into manageable chunks, dry bine well in advance, and cook it to a medium rare or medium level. Prime rib or pit beef kinda thing.
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I cut those all the time. That's what they call one of those "Steamship" rounds. I usually do about 6 at a time. I'm using 5 of them for stir fry tomorrow. It's been marinading since yesterday in actual strips.
we use CAB choice and there's always one well marbled section within. The fat cap comes off from the center to the end revealing another muscle on top with more fat underneath.
if you try and break this down you will lose a lot. If you cut it into smaller chunks it will make it harder to slice thin without a slicer.
Here's what I would suggest after cooking many of them.
1 Cut that top layer of fat off, turn over and some from the bottom too. This will help you see the muscles and the way the "grains" are running.
2. Slice with the grain your large pieces so when you cut for service you can lay flat (safely) and cut against the grain. (I think I said that right) I've never had to explain it before.
3. Hot n fast is no bueno for that large cut unless their thin strips. Low n slow is good.
4. The bark on these can really get to an undesireable state if you have hot spots so be sure to rotate the meat.
5. Season wisely as this has very beefy flavor so nothing that can give you bitter flavors if cooking a long time time.
6. Definitely save the dripping if you can and make a gravy.
Its very delicious on a sandwich and soft bun.
i hope this helps.
HH
oh, BTW I think Alton Brown has an episode on this. Question, isn't pit beef direct heat???
> Weber Genesis EP-330
> Grilla Grills Original Grilla (OG) pellet smoker with Alpha/Connect
> Grilla Grills Pellet Pizza Oven
> Pit Barrel Cooker (gone to a new home)
> WeberQ 2000 (on "loan" to a relative (I'll never see it again))
> Old Smokey Electric (for chickens mostly - when it's too nasty out
to fiddle with a more capable cooker)
> Luhr Jensen Little Chief Electric - Top Loader circa 1990 (smoked fish & jerky)
> Thermoworks Smoke
> 3 Thermoworks Chef Alarms
> Thermoworks Thermapen One
> Thermoworks Thermapen Classic
> Thermoworks Thermopop
> Thermoworks IR-GUN-S
> Anova sous vide circulator
> Searzall torch
> BBQ Guru Rib Ring
> WÜSTHOF, Dalstrong, and Buck knives
> Paprika App on Mac and iOS
Equipment
Primo Oval xl
Slow n Sear (two)
Drip n Griddle
22" Weber Kettle
26" Weber Kettle one touch
Blackstone 36†Pro Series
Sous vide machine
Kitchen Aid
Meat grinder
sausage stuffer
5 Crock Pots Akootrimonts
Two chimneys (was 3 but rivets finally popped, down to 1)
cast iron pans,
Dutch ovens
Signals 4 probe, thermapens, chef alarms, Dots, thermapop and maverick T-732, RTC-600, pro needle and various pocket instareads. The help and preferences
1 extra fridge and a deep chest freezer in the garage
KBB
FOGO
A 9 year old princess foster child
Patience and old patio furniture
"Baby Girl" The cat
Yup, it was a direct heat, they used a slicer, served it from rare and were using bottom round. I'm not sure if any of those variables apply to the cook above.
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Last edited by HouseHomey; April 15, 2018, 10:01 AM.
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That was awesome. The more of that style of cooking meat I see, the more I want a to just start cooking large primals of meat on a Santa Maria style grill and throw away all my other cookers. My mouth is literally watering from watching them eat those pit beef sammies !! There's your answer new guy and welcome to the Pit !!!
Equipment
Primo Oval xl
Slow n Sear (two)
Drip n Griddle
22" Weber Kettle
26" Weber Kettle one touch
Blackstone 36†Pro Series
Sous vide machine
Kitchen Aid
Meat grinder
sausage stuffer
5 Crock Pots Akootrimonts
Two chimneys (was 3 but rivets finally popped, down to 1)
cast iron pans,
Dutch ovens
Signals 4 probe, thermapens, chef alarms, Dots, thermapop and maverick T-732, RTC-600, pro needle and various pocket instareads. The help and preferences
1 extra fridge and a deep chest freezer in the garage
KBB
FOGO
A 9 year old princess foster child
Patience and old patio furniture
"Baby Girl" The cat
Dwaynereis im sorry I can't give you the answer you are looking for. I cook by desired temp, probe tender, what I'll be using it for, who I'm feeding and how I want my leftovers to be.
Even mini bagel bites tell you 12-14 minutes.
depends on how big (thick) your chucnks are, your pit temp, where you pull it etc...
i can tell you when I put large chunks in a 325 convection parts can be pulled at an hour. Others not.
You need to know what you are going to do with it and desired temp etc...
Equipment
Primo Oval xl
Slow n Sear (two)
Drip n Griddle
22" Weber Kettle
26" Weber Kettle one touch
Blackstone 36†Pro Series
Sous vide machine
Kitchen Aid
Meat grinder
sausage stuffer
5 Crock Pots Akootrimonts
Two chimneys (was 3 but rivets finally popped, down to 1)
cast iron pans,
Dutch ovens
Signals 4 probe, thermapens, chef alarms, Dots, thermapop and maverick T-732, RTC-600, pro needle and various pocket instareads. The help and preferences
1 extra fridge and a deep chest freezer in the garage
KBB
FOGO
A 9 year old princess foster child
Patience and old patio furniture
"Baby Girl" The cat
Here are some pics I took today of my salad bar/deli station prep cook fabricating a top round as you have above. This is going to be for Roast beef in the deli bar section of the dining room.
Referring to Polarbear777 link above to MH pit beef recipe. Chapsmuses bottom round and slices on a machine. MH suggests to cook low n slow as do I. Cook to mid rare tops. If no slicer don't get too barely unless you have a seriously sharp knife and some skill. Make sure your against the grain on your final service cut.
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