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    #76
    Very helpful. I started a few years ago using the 3-2-1 method for baby back ribs, modified to about a 3-4 hr duration. Sensing doneness was the big challenge. Looking for cracking was not reliable for me and many times ribs were overdone. Then discovered the best method every invented and rarely discussed. I call it the EAR method: Eat-A-Rib every now and then to determine doneness. Much more accurate.

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    • jfmorris
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      Haha. I like the idea of the EAR method! If you do blasphemy style ribs (individual bones) it becomes even easier to implement!

      With baby/loin back ribs, they usually don't crack. That method only seems to work for spare ribs, either whole or St. Louis cut.

    #77
    True confession ... I have gotten really leery about cooking pork ribs, even with Troutman's most excellent tutorial. I don't do them often enough to know when they're tender but still juicy. The dogs have gotten far too many dry-as-dust, overly chewy ribs. They love eating my mistakes, but overdone, dry ribs make for some expensive dog treats. The experience has been disheartening.

    I know the common wisdom is to not cook ribs based on the meat temp, but a recent Thermoworks blog post recommended exactly that. (I know, I know ... they sell thermometers ... but just cuz they have this bias doesn't mean they're wrong.) I figured I had nothing to lose by trying their way at least once. The really short version of their cook method will sound familiar to anyone who's done pork shoulder or similar cuts --

    Set the cooker to about 275F / 135 C. Cook the ribs nekkid to an internal temp of 160F / 70C, wrap in foil or paper, return to the cooker, and finish cooking until they reach 203F / 95C, however long that takes. They then suggested unwrapping and returning the rack to the cooker for about 1/2 hour to dry and set the bark.

    I tried this method this past weekend on 2 racks of St Louis cut pork ribs, about 4 lb / 1.8 kg each, but one rack was slightly thinner and longer than the other.

    The blog post didn't say too much about where they prefer to locate their temp probes, so I decided to put a temp probe in the center of the meat between a pair of bones in the middle of each rack. I realize the thinness of the meat makes this placement a bit tricky, which is why it's a good idea to use the leave-in probe only as a general guide and use an instant read thermometer (Thermopen) to verify.

    Both sets of ribs hit about 160F in about an hour. I checked the temps between other bones at this point. The average temp of the meat on the thinner rack was somewhat warmer -- around 160F in the middle to 175F near the ends. The meat on the thicker rack varied from 155 to 165F. I pulled them both, but could have left the thicker rack on a bit longer.

    I wrapped the thinner rack in foil and the thicker one in pink butcher paper. The foil rack hit 203F after another 1/2 hour. I pulled it and let it rest in a cooler for 1 1/2 hours. At that point, the foil wrapped rack got cut up and served for supper. There was maybe 1/4 cup of juice in the foil. The bone side of the rack was pointing down while the rack was in the cooler, so the meat was in a humid environment but wasn't sitting in liquid.

    The paper wrapped rack took another 2 1/4 hours to reach 203F - quite a difference in time! I gave this one a 1 1/2 hour rest in the cooler to treat it similar to the foil wrapped rack. There was no pool of juice in the paper.

    I didn't return either rack to the cooker after unwrapping, because neither DH or I care for chewy bark. But next time I might lightly glaze a rack and give it 10 minutes or so over the fire to warm and set the glaze.

    Neither rack had a braised texture or flavor. Both were bite-off-the-bone tender. I'd say the paper-wrapped rack was very slightly drier than the other one, but still juicy. I was pleased.
    Last edited by IowaGirl; May 26, 2021, 09:22 AM.

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    • Troutman
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      I suggest IowaGirl that you not give your ribs so long a rest. Think about it, if you bring them to 203* wrapped in foil then put them into an insulated environment, they continue to cook. After a while they are overcooked. I've found that letting them rest on the stovetop just tented or in pink paper allows them to cool down. I generally don't rest very long either, it's not like beef where you have to wait on juices to redistribute.

    • IowaGirl
      IowaGirl commented
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      Troutman -- The rest in the cooler wasn't planned. I had allowed about 3 to 3 1/2 hours for the cook. When the first rack was done in only 1 1/2 hours, we weren't ready to eat. I could have left this rack on the counter to cool until suppertime, but then would have had to re-heat, and that seemed silly. I treated the second rack like the first mainly in the interests of science. To be honest, I don't think the rest period did any harm, but will keep your advice in mind.
      Last edited by IowaGirl; May 29, 2021, 06:44 AM.

    • MarkN
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      Interesting and thanks for sharing.

      I was home alone this weekend so I experimented with 1 rack of St. Louis cut ribs hanging 3 hrs in the PBC that averaged around 300; when the meat pulled back from the bone about 1/4"-1/2" and temp was just over 200. Cut it in half, sauced, wrapped one in foil and just hung the other. Pulled them both to rest 20 minutes. They were different, but both were great.

      The key is to cook with nobody around asking "What time do we eat?"

    #78
    IowaGirl

    Awww, poor pups. Bones and no meat. If Thermoworks ever sells skinny leave-in probes like Fireboard does, I recommend getting a couple. They easily slip into the rib meat away from the bone because they're nearly darning-needle thin and short, too. I use them every time I cook ribs. Haven't done the bend test in ages. Yay.

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    Kathryn

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    • SmokingSteve
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      klflowers Me too! I want to use them in my new Camp Chef Woodwind 36" pellet smoker. The 4 supplied probes are only rated to 350 degrees.

    • jfmorris
      jfmorris commented
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      Kathryn, Thermoworks has a water proof "needle" probe that is basically what you are describing:

      Specializing in cool, unique and professional temperature tools. Super-Fast thermocouples, thermistors, infrared thermometers, data logging and more.


      If one of my two meat probes dies, I'll probably order one as a replacement, especially as it is waterproof. I only buy Thermoworks stuff when its on sale though...

    • fzxdoc
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      Good to know, jfmorris . I'm not jumping out of the Fireboard boat, but it's might be a nice option for Smoke users who want to monitor temps in small cuts of chicken, fish, or ribs.

      Kathryn

    #79
    A debt of gratitude is in order for taking the time on this. Pleasant work.

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    • fzxdoc
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      Huskee .

    • Huskee
      Huskee commented
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    #80
    Great write up but I have one question. After dry brining do you rinse or wipe off the salt before adding your rubs?

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    • pkadare
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      Nope.

    • Huskee
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      The only time you'd rinse is if you add too much intentionally, such as with curing, but that's nitrite not regular salt.

    • IowaGirl
      IowaGirl commented
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      When you dry brine, you don't add any more salt than what would be pleasant to eat. So you don't rinse the meat after dry brining -- and there is no visible salt to wipe off either.

      The rule of thumb I use for dry brining (and what is recommended in AR recipes) is about 1/2 tsp kosher salt per pound of meat. Since ribs have a lot of bone in proportion to actual meat, less salt is needed. The rule of thumb I use for ribs is 1/4 tsp kosher salt per pound.

    #81
    Originally posted by Troutman View Post
    Of all the smoked and barbecue meats, nothing beats the deliciousness of ribs. No more is that emphasized than in the naming of this site, Amazing Ribs !!! We eat with all of our senses; obviously we smell and look at our food long before we eat it, of course we taste and have the tactile feel within our mouths, but for ribs I say that the sense of touch, of eating this food with an almost primal delight, is what sets it apart.


    (You may now return to your regularly scheduled program, Troutman Steve is outta here !!!)
    Thanks so much for this detailed write up. This is just what the Dr. ordered. I have t. We're o racks of spares from Porter Road. We're cooking for friends this coming weekend. They are fellow Q heads & ribs are their specialty and fave. While I'm not new to the Q game, I'm most def a rib novice.
    I love the idea of layering the seasoning. I would be concerned that dry brining them and using a commercial rub that contains salt might make them too salty. Is this a valid concern?
    JD

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    • RonB
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      That depends on how much salt is in the commercial rub. I forget how to adjust, but if there's a lot of salt in the rub, no dry brine is needed/wanted.

    #82
    Great write up

    Usually do not struggle with Ribs but it was nice to read through each of the steps
    Getting ready to cook 12 slabs for a fund raiser in May and this was like kickin the dust off or oiling the machine

    THANK YOU

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      #83
      I somehow missed this post. Then I looked at the date, sorta figgered where my mind was at the time. Muchos good writin their Trout. I still call em Wibs!

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        #84
        Very well written. I am always open to new ideas and I picked up a few here. Good job!!

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