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  • Dewesq55
    Founding Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 1855
    • The Poconos, NEPA
    • Smoker:
      Landmann Smoke Master Series Heavy Duty Barrel Smoker (COS)
      Masterbuilt 40.2" 1200W Electric Smoker
      Masterbuilt ThermoTemp XL 40" Vertical Propane Smoker

      Gas Grill:
      BBQPro (cheap big box store model) Stainless steel 4 burners with aftermarket rotisserie.

      Thermometer:​​​​​​
      Fireboard with Drive cable and 20 CFM fan
      ThermoWorks Mini Instant Read
      Lavaworks Thermowand Instant Read
      2 Maverick 733
      ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S Industrial Infrared Thermometer
      ThermoWorks ThermaPen Mk4 x 2
      Govee Bluetooth Thermometer

      Miscellaneous:
      Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - 1st generation
      Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - wifi/bluetooth connected

      Favorite Beer:
      Anything to the dark side and malty rather than hoppy. Currently liking Yuengling Porter and Newcastle Brown Ale. In a bar or pub I will often default to Guiness

      Favorite Spirit:
      Bourbon - Eagle Rare for "every day"; Angel's Envy for special occasions, Basil Hayden's, Larceny

      Favorite Wine:
      Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Super Tuscan Sangiovese (Including Chianti Classico Riserva) Brunello di Montalcino

      Favorite Meat(s):
      Pork - especially the darker meat. I love spare ribs and anything made from shoulder/butt meat
      Chicken - Mainly the dark meat and wings
      Beef Ribeye steak

      Favorite Cuisine to Cook:
      Can't list just one: Indian, Chinese, Thai, West Indian/Carribean, Hispanic/Latin American, Ethiopian, Italian, BBQ

      Favorite Cuisine to Eat:
      Indian, followed closely by BBQ.

      Disqus ID:
      David E. Waterbury

    Outdoor Cooking/Entertaining Area Build

    I'm hearing up to do a significant outdoor area refurb and expansion. Currently it consists of a pretty concrete slab "patio" that's ~32 feet wide and only 8 feet deep. Being so narrow, it's good for practically nothing. There is an access door at one end off the back of the attached garage, so I have my cookers squeezed into that corner. In additional to everything else, the concrete slab has raised up in parts and sunken in others over the years so it is quite uneven. We've talked for several years about building a ground level wooden deck over the patio and expanding it out into the yard. Now is apparently the time.

    The plan is to build a floating deck (not attached to the house) which will be 32' long by 20' deep. It will be at ground level over the patio. There is a moderate downslope to the yard so the far side will be about 20" off the ground supported by posts and beams. Since it it's floating, I'm not digging footings. The posts will be supported by manufactured foundation blocks. The one sticking point it's the difficulty getting pressure treated lumber at the moment. I have yet to be able to source the 5/4 decking locally. I'm not inclined to use composite for a variety of reasons.

    So far I have had 3 yards of 3/4 clean crushed stone delivered as well as the landscaping cloth for ground prep under the deck. I have the foundation blocks and have marked out their locations, and have about 75% of the framing and support timber and all of the connecting hardware and fasteners.

    The plan for today is to level the ground under where the foundation blocks will go then lay down the fabric and begin moving and spreading the crushed stone.

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  • LA Pork Butt
    Charter Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 5355
    • Grew up in New Orleans, lived in Texas for 20 years, lived in Mandeville, LA for 22 years. I now liv

    #2
    You are going to love it when you are finished. Are you building any kind of covering for your cookers? If so, I would recommending building it as close as possible to where you would enter the deck with the food.

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    • Dewesq55
      Dewesq55 commented
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      At the moment I'm not, but I can see wanting to down the road. I will most likely want to do some type of outdoor kitchen installation with countertops and a sink, eventually, also.
  • HawkerXP
    Club Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 5499
    • Virginia
    • 2 Weber Performers, 1 kettle, 1 Smoky Joe and a PBC
      Thermopops
      Dot and Chef Alarm with probes
      Slo n Sear
      Cold beer

    #3
    Keep it coming!

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    • Dan Deter
      Club Member
      • Jun 2018
      • 450
      • Raleigh, NC
      • Weber Summit S-670
        Thermapen Mk 4

      #4
      Sounds a lot more fun than the expansion we're considering...because of the slope our deck is a story above the ground...

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      • Dewesq55
        Dewesq55 commented
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        Wow, that's a lot of slope. Mine is less than 18 inches at the farthest part of the planned deck. Using a doubled 2x8 beam, I should only have very stubby posts.
        Last edited by Dewesq55; August 11, 2020, 09:50 AM.

      • Dan Deter
        Dan Deter commented
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        The advantage is I have a full basement, which is unusual as hell in NC. Which exits under the existing deck, so my shop down there will be convenient to where we're working (whenever that starts...). But its going to make a few parts quite nerve wracking. I was going to expand in a lower, multi-level deal, but the SWMBO starting having ideas...

      • Dewesq55
        Dewesq55 commented
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        Our full basement it's completely below grade. There is an exit through a Bilco door. That's actually a hassle since I have to frame around it. My shop is in a separate outbuilding, but reasonably close by.
    • Donw
      Club Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 3036

      #5
      Do you have an 84 lumber nearby? They usually have good quality 5/4.

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      • Dewesq55
        Dewesq55 commented
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        Yeah. The problem is, apparently all of the PT in this area comes out of one plant and it shut down for 2 or 3 months due to COVID. So now, every time a load comes in to one of the local stores, the contractors clean them out first thing in the morning. All pressure treated is hard to get right now, at least around here. What I've managed to get, I had to scrounge around at different stores to find. But nobody has any 5/4 decking.
        Last edited by Dewesq55; August 11, 2020, 10:51 AM.

      • Dewesq55
        Dewesq55 commented
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        So, it turns out you were right, Donw . I was able to find lumber sufficient to complete my project at my local 84 Lumber. It was quite a bit more expensive than Lowe's or Home Depot would have been had they had the goods, but they didn't.
    • Henrik
      Founding Member - Moderator Emeritus
      • Jul 2014
      • 4293
      • Stockholm, Sweden

      #6
      Love projects like this, it's gonna be fun to follow! I'm doing more or less exactly the same, just waiting for the municipality permit before I can get started. That's probably gonna take at least another month. Keep 'em photos coming!

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      • TripleB
        Club Member
        • May 2017
        • 701
        • La Crescenta
        • Jambo Backyard Smoker
          Weber Smokey Mountain (22" & 18.5")
          Portable Kitchen 360
          Portable Kitchen Grill
          Pit Barrel Cooker
          Weber "Brownie" Circa 1978 22"
          Weber Gas Grill, Silver A
          BBQ Guru ATC
          Favorite Beer: Peroni
          Favorite Sports Teams: Rams, Dodgers, Kings, UCLA Bruins

        #7
        Looking forward To seeing the pics as this develops. Make sure you leave enough in your budget to buy a couple new smokers/grills. Gotta have some new toys to go with your new BBQ area.

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        • RonB
          Club Member
          • Apr 2016
          • 12699
          • Near Richmond VA
          • Weber Performer Deluxe
            SNS
            Pizza insert
            Rotisserie
            Smokenator 1000
            Cookshack Smokette Elite
            2 Thermapens
            Chefalarm
            Dot
            lots of probes.
            CyberQ

          #8
          That's a nice project.

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          • Dewesq55
            Dewesq55 commented
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            Thanks!
        • Jerod Broussard
          Moderator
          • Jun 2014
          • 9738
          • East Texas
          • Pit Barrel Cooker "Texas Brisket Edition"
            Weber One Touch Premium Copper 22" Kettle (gift)
            Slow 'n Sear for 22" Kettle
            Weber One Touch Premium Black 26" Kettle (gift)
            Slow 'n Sear XL for 26" Kettle (gift)
            Weber Smokey Joe Gold
            Weber Rapid Fire Chimney
            Vortex
            Maverick ET-732 White
            Maverick ET-732 Copper
            2- Auber SYL-1615 fan systems(Awesome!!!!!!!!)
            Thermoworks Thermapen w/ Back light (gift)
            Thermoworks Timestick
            Cambro Model 300MPC110 w/ Winco SS Pans
            B & B and Kingsford Charcoal
            B & B Pellets

          #9
          Just weld it yourself, wood is for the birds!

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          • Attjack
            Club Member
            • Aug 2017
            • 3968
            • Primo XL
              Weber 26"
              Weber 22"
              Weber 22"
              Weber 18"
              Weber Jumbo Joe
              Weber Green Smokey Joe (Thanks, Mr. Bones!)
              Weber Smokey Joe
              Orion Smoker

              DigiQ DX2
              Slow 'N Sear XL
              Arteflame 26.75" Insert

              Blaze BLZ-4-NG 32-Inch 4-Burner Built-In
              - With Rear Infrared Burner
              - With Infrared Sear Burner
              - With Rotisserie
              Empava 2 Burner Gas Cooktop
              Weber Spirit 210
              - With Grillgrates
              ​​​​​​​ - With Rotisserie
              Weber Q2200

              Blackstone Pizza Oven

              Portable propane burners (3)
              Propane turkey Fryer

              Fire pit grill

            #10
            If you build it they will come... for the food.

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            • Dewesq55
              Founding Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 1855
              • The Poconos, NEPA
              • Smoker:
                Landmann Smoke Master Series Heavy Duty Barrel Smoker (COS)
                Masterbuilt 40.2" 1200W Electric Smoker
                Masterbuilt ThermoTemp XL 40" Vertical Propane Smoker

                Gas Grill:
                BBQPro (cheap big box store model) Stainless steel 4 burners with aftermarket rotisserie.

                Thermometer:​​​​​​
                Fireboard with Drive cable and 20 CFM fan
                ThermoWorks Mini Instant Read
                Lavaworks Thermowand Instant Read
                2 Maverick 733
                ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S Industrial Infrared Thermometer
                ThermoWorks ThermaPen Mk4 x 2
                Govee Bluetooth Thermometer

                Miscellaneous:
                Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - 1st generation
                Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - wifi/bluetooth connected

                Favorite Beer:
                Anything to the dark side and malty rather than hoppy. Currently liking Yuengling Porter and Newcastle Brown Ale. In a bar or pub I will often default to Guiness

                Favorite Spirit:
                Bourbon - Eagle Rare for "every day"; Angel's Envy for special occasions, Basil Hayden's, Larceny

                Favorite Wine:
                Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Super Tuscan Sangiovese (Including Chianti Classico Riserva) Brunello di Montalcino

                Favorite Meat(s):
                Pork - especially the darker meat. I love spare ribs and anything made from shoulder/butt meat
                Chicken - Mainly the dark meat and wings
                Beef Ribeye steak

                Favorite Cuisine to Cook:
                Can't list just one: Indian, Chinese, Thai, West Indian/Carribean, Hispanic/Latin American, Ethiopian, Italian, BBQ

                Favorite Cuisine to Eat:
                Indian, followed closely by BBQ.

                Disqus ID:
                David E. Waterbury

              #11
              So, it was 95° and humid here today and I don't have backyard shade until late in the afternoon. Also, I'm old and out of shape. The result is I didn't get as much accomplished as I'd hoped to. I got the pads dug out and leveled under half the footing blocks. The boards sitting in the blocks are just there to check that they line up, which they do.
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              • Dan Deter
                Club Member
                • Jun 2018
                • 450
                • Raleigh, NC
                • Weber Summit S-670
                  Thermapen Mk 4

                #12
                Dewesq55 looks like your images were a victim of the hacker's attack Ray told us about in another thread. Could you repost them? Or at least the last one that I haven't seen?

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                • Dewesq55
                  Dewesq55 commented
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                  Now I can't get them to post at all.
                  Last edited by Dewesq55; August 13, 2020, 07:48 AM.
              • Donw
                Club Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 3036

                #13
                Just read that Ocean City had to postpone the re-decking of the boardwalk due to the shortages of pressure treated lumber. The city engineer was quoted as saying that while they had several sources for the lumber, the price was now double what it was a few months ago. I realize that the boardwalk decking is much thicker than 5/4, but still wow. If they can’t get a good deal ordering 26 city blocks of pressure treated, then composite starts looking better for yours. Hope you get lucky on your search.

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                • Skip
                  Founding Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 3299
                  • Blue Earth, Minnesota
                  • MAK Pellet Grill, Large BGE, Weber Kettle with SnS, Weber Gasser, Pit Barrel Cooker, Cast Iron Pans & Griddle, Grill Grates, Mostly Thermoworks Thermometers

                  #14
                  Nice project David! Good luck. We'll be watching.

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                  • Dewesq55
                    Founding Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 1855
                    • The Poconos, NEPA
                    • Smoker:
                      Landmann Smoke Master Series Heavy Duty Barrel Smoker (COS)
                      Masterbuilt 40.2" 1200W Electric Smoker
                      Masterbuilt ThermoTemp XL 40" Vertical Propane Smoker

                      Gas Grill:
                      BBQPro (cheap big box store model) Stainless steel 4 burners with aftermarket rotisserie.

                      Thermometer:​​​​​​
                      Fireboard with Drive cable and 20 CFM fan
                      ThermoWorks Mini Instant Read
                      Lavaworks Thermowand Instant Read
                      2 Maverick 733
                      ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S Industrial Infrared Thermometer
                      ThermoWorks ThermaPen Mk4 x 2
                      Govee Bluetooth Thermometer

                      Miscellaneous:
                      Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - 1st generation
                      Anova Sous Vide Immersion Circulator - wifi/bluetooth connected

                      Favorite Beer:
                      Anything to the dark side and malty rather than hoppy. Currently liking Yuengling Porter and Newcastle Brown Ale. In a bar or pub I will often default to Guiness

                      Favorite Spirit:
                      Bourbon - Eagle Rare for "every day"; Angel's Envy for special occasions, Basil Hayden's, Larceny

                      Favorite Wine:
                      Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Super Tuscan Sangiovese (Including Chianti Classico Riserva) Brunello di Montalcino

                      Favorite Meat(s):
                      Pork - especially the darker meat. I love spare ribs and anything made from shoulder/butt meat
                      Chicken - Mainly the dark meat and wings
                      Beef Ribeye steak

                      Favorite Cuisine to Cook:
                      Can't list just one: Indian, Chinese, Thai, West Indian/Carribean, Hispanic/Latin American, Ethiopian, Italian, BBQ

                      Favorite Cuisine to Eat:
                      Indian, followed closely by BBQ.

                      Disqus ID:
                      David E. Waterbury

                    #15
                    So progress had been MUCH slower than I had envisioned due to the heat and the fact that I'm apparently in even worse shape than I thought. Nonetheless, we are plugging along. Today we got the landscape fabric laid down and I will be working on moving and spreading the stone on top after lunch.

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                    • Dan Deter
                      Dan Deter commented
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                      I have learned that I've gotta pace myself or else I'll wind up unable to do anything for a couple of weeks... Oh, and hiring my kid's college age friends is worth the money (for the right friends, that is)

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