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    And another new SnS Deluxe Kettle owner

    Hey folks, as I described in a recent thread about discovering a bit of space I can use for a new cooker, I just took delivery on a new SnS Deluxe kettle yesterday.

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    I plan on starting the assembly this afternoon (I'm doing a music livestream at 1pm and don't want to risk garfing up my hands before that), and then will run a load of charcoal to burn it in.

    Bit of backstory. For years and years, I was a charcoal-only kinda guy, looking askance at gas grills. Strike one. Plus, I really did not know what I was doing when it came to using charcoal, as I now know from all I've learned here. Strike two. My lovely bride finally convinced me to at least try out a gasser about a decade ago, and I have not lit a pile of charcoal since.

    As a consequence, I'm basically starting over on cooking with charcoal. And with this setup, low & slow is obviously in the picture, so I'll be able to cook with charcoal & wood chunks in addition to the pellet smoker and gas grill I already have.

    Basic plan is to do a very simple first cook after the burn in, and that's likely to be later in the week. That will be burgers or hot dogs or some such, just a regular bed of coals without 2-zone for the first outing. If that goes OK, I'll do a 2-zone cook after that, likely next weekend.

    I'm thinking either some steaks or a rack of spares for the first 2-zone attempt, to avoid having to replenish fuel, probably prudent not to attempt a long cook on the first 2-zone try. Naturally I'm happy to hear your sage counsel and wisdom


    #2
    Congrats and enjoy!

    and enjoy the music today

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      #3
      Congrats again Dave. The first thing you should get is a Vortex or a similar brand. The one I have is only $26. It’s good for a lot of things besides chicken wings. I use it for reverse searing steaks and chops also. I use it way more often than the SnS insert. It’s lighter, easier to maneuver and I find I use less charcoal with it, when grilling. You can also flip it upside down for a larger searing area. IMO…if you have a kettle, you need a vortex.

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      • Purc
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        Love both the Vortex and the SnS for the kettle. I agree with Panhead John, chicken wings,thighs etc are great using either the Vortex or the SnS. Maybe a rotisserie?

      • klflowers
        klflowers commented
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        I grok burgers today, brisket tomorrow. Congrats

      • HotSun
        HotSun commented
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        Thanks for sharing PJ. This probably solves a problem I have with my Kamander, not being able to do direct and indirect on the same grill. Plus, my DW loves crispy wings, so this solves a couple problems and maintains marital bliss at the dinner table.

      #4
      Congratulations on the SnS!

      Can't wait to see what your cooking.

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        #5
        I agree with PJ that the vortex is a game changer. for $26 you can't go wrong.

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        • Jfrosty27
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          +1 on the Vortex

        #6
        Thats looking real nice and it ain't even out of the box yet! Congrats!

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          #7
          Ok Dave, ain’t no way we’re letting you out of here without some "kettle accessories" To me, this is a must have for great burgers and grilled veggies…a grate topper similar to these and a bag of hickory chunks. The best burgers I’ve made are allowed to smoke off heat for a few minutes, then searing over the coals to finish. This will let the smoke in and let the grease drip on the coals. It’s also a lot easier flipping burgers and dogs on a grate topper than the grates themselves. Spray a little Pam on it ahead of time. You’ll thank me later.

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          • Jfrosty27
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            DaveD I also use these in my smoker. Great for burnt ends, shrimp, and other small things

          • Panhead John
            Panhead John commented
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            Thanks Jfrosty27 I forgot to mention that.

          • DaveD
            DaveD commented
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            I already have a couple of Weber slotted trays in stainless, much like the top photo. Nothing in CI though. Same deal though... I'm gonna establish my baseline first

          #8
          Alrighty, got the kettle put together this afternoon. After reading the instructions carefully and inspecting all the hardware, I judged that a different sequence than what's in the instructions would be better. First the assembly shots then the lowdown on how I think the right sequence ought to go.

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          Ran out of time to do the burn-in tonight, so that'll happen tomorrow I reckon. Now, on the procedure. First, I deferred the entire lid assembly until after I had the base of the kettle, including the bail, all set up. Then I could perch the lid in the bail while working on its assembly. Still needed a second pair of hands for about ten seconds, but it was pretty straightforward.

          Second is to not put the legs on until after all the kettle attachments are in place. This means on p 12 of the instruction manual, stop after the upper half of the page and then skip to p 15-18 and do all those steps. Being able to flip the kettle around to get at all the various things is way easier than if the legs were on and you had to come at everything from the same direction. Again, still needed that second pair of hands to get the ash scraper system in there, but that too was super easy being able to move the kettle wherever. Once all that's done, then go back to the bottom of p 12 and proceed up to p 15. Then jump to the last page, 19, and finish up.

          More soon...

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          • tbob4
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            Hope they don't skip steps on the Artemis! HA

          • DaveD
            DaveD commented
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            Hey, I skipped nothin...! All steps completed, just in a much more efficient (IMO) order. For Science!

          • Panhead John
            Panhead John commented
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            😂😂

          #9
          WOOHOO! New cooker day!

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            #10
            Fire in the hole! First Light from the SNS, burning in with a big ol' pile of charcoal.

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            Didn't seem to be catching all that quick so I added two more tumbleweeds about 15 min in. That got everything going very nicely.

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            Spread the coals, clipped on the temp probe, closed the lid - all vents wide open.
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            Temps climbed steadily and reached about 530F/275C, which was the temp in that last shot above. The temp probe is near the center of the grill, and is reading around 50F higher than the dome dial thermometer, unsurprisingly.

            I'll just let this run until all the fuel is gone, and then tomorrow I'll go again with the SNS insert so it can also get properly burned in before I cook anything. I'm thinking green chile cheeseburgers for Weds dinner....

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            • Allon
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              Go go gadget SnS! 1st burn, very exciting...

              My grill doesn't come close to your hi temperature on charcoal. Gas gets up to somewhere around 600°F on the included temp gauge. I haven't had the time to put the digital on it yet.

            #11
            Congrats on that sweet kettle acquisition! Enjoy every single cook on it.

            Kathryn

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              #12
              Here we are, five hours after the coals were lit, and the temp is only now starting to drift down.

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              Here it is at 3 hours in, temp still rockin, I'm guessing coals almost half consumed.

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              I'll let it run its course and do part 2 in the morning.

              Meanwhile, as I mentioned in my other thread, the little piece of concrete this sits on is not level, as you can see in these shots, where it's listing from left to right in two directions, both toward the gas meter in one and toward the house in the other:

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              Aside from juices not dripping straight down and the water in the SnS insert's pan showing the tilt, is there any problem to expect from this? It's just a couple of degrees so it won't have any serious effect on how the heat moves, I'm sure...
              Last edited by DaveD; August 29, 2022, 06:39 PM.

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              • Panhead John
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                You’re a good sport Dave! 😂

              • Panhead John
                Panhead John commented
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                It’s a proven fact that by being more than 2.6 degrees off on the level of your cooker can result in disastrous and severely over cooked food! Pitmasters…keep a level handy at all times!

              • gboss
                gboss commented
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                love the excel graph!

              #13
              This looks like the perfect excuse to have thing torn out and have a new concrete pad poured. Yup. That’s the ticket! 🤣

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              • DaveD
                DaveD commented
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                You're so helpful! 🤣

              #14
              Very nice right up. I keep going back and forth between this and the Weber Summit Kamado. I don’t have a kettle and but am looking at some options to either replace the WSM or work in conjunction with it. This helps.

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              • DaveD
                DaveD commented
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                Good to hear! Also, do have a look at the thread I linked to in the OP if you haven't seen it, where I was cogitating about what to get - lots of great input there from many folks on the "puts and takes." Sure helped me!

              #15
              Did the burn-in on the SnS insert yesterday, just a short load of coals running for about four hours. It was NOT set up as a way to assess the temp profiles and such, that will come later. But of course I did record the temps over time, because of course I did.

              At first I put the probe directly over the coals to measure the direct side temps, but it quickly went over limit, displaying the HHH error. So I moved it to just over the (empty) water chamber instead. Started with vents wide open to make sure I got to good burn-in temps, then I dialed it back as shown to see what happened next.

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              After moving the direct side probe:
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              Vent positions after throttling back:
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              I have a nice view into the kettle from the kitchen table:
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              First red arrow shows where I throttled back. Second red arrow is where I closed the top vent to the barest slit. Again, this was not planned as a temperature data-gathering exercise, I was just taking data because there were data sitting there to be taken. I just can't help myself!
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              And with this done, tonight is the first cook on the kettle: green chile cheeseburgers with the last bit of Click meat I have left: pound of their ground beef. Stay tuned...



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              • Panhead John
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                Just a tip I learned the hard way, you should never put your grate probe over the coals, they aren’t made for temps that hot. It can damage the probe. Infrared thermometer is recommended for measuring extremely hot temps. Just an FYI, I learned temps directly over hot coals is usually 900* - 1000*.

              • DaveD
                DaveD commented
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                Yeah, I've had that HHH before when I had a probe over the direct side on the gas grill too. I think these SnS probes top out at 600F/315C. I fully expected this to happen, but hey, I'm an experimentalist, so I tried it to see

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