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  • fzxdoc
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      Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


      Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
      Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
      Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
      Grill Grate for SnS
      Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections with GrateGriddle for Summit S650 gasser (they sit on top of existing Weber SS grates)
      2 Grill Grate Griddles
      Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser

      Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
      Fireboard Competition Probes 1" (two) and two more Ambient Probes
      Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
      Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
      Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
      Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
      Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
      Thermoworks Timestick Trio
      Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
      Maverick ET 733
      Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
      Grill Pinz
      Vortex (two of them)

      Two Joule Sous Vide devices
      VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
      Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
      Charcoal Companion TurboQue
      A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

      BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

      Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
      Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
      Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
      Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

    You're welcome Joedvasquez. As I mentioned, I had the same issue in my second cook. The lid looked like it was on nice and tight but it wasn't. That PBC is a marvelous cooking machine, but it is prone to having temp issues if the lid is not secure. Enjoy your next cook. Let us know how it turns out.

    Kathryn

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    • Joedvasquez
      Club Member
      • Apr 2016
      • 46
      • San Francisco Bay Area

      Updating my post from Thursday...
      I found my problem. When I put the wood in and covered the lid so much smoke was coming out of the lid I tried pushing down on it and it stopped. I let go and it kept going. So I threw a couple 12"x12"X1" concrete pavers on top and that seemed to do the trick. I'm cooking 3 racks of baby backs been running at about 270 the whole time so far. About to pull them off. More photos to follow.

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      • Jerod Broussard
        Jerod Broussard commented
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        May need to tap the lid in some locations.
    • flyby
      Former Member
      • Apr 2016
      • 44
      • Michigan

      I'm wondering if it isn't the mysteries of fabricating metal.... Mine hit about 340 on the first cook and still heading upwards. Put foil on all four rebar holes, and it dropped right down. Felt like it might go too low, so I pulled the foil off two of the holes....stabilized right at 235 for the whole cook.... sauced 'em a minute ago, dining very soon!!!

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      • Joedvasquez
        Club Member
        • Apr 2016
        • 46
        • San Francisco Bay Area

        I did tap all around with a mallet. Didn't work. I'm going to contact PBC and see what they say. I'm just happy I figured out what the issue was. These ribs were amazing. I rubbed yellow mustard and salted first and let set for an hour, rubbed with Meathead's Memphis Dust on all 3 racks and sauced only 1 with Sweet Baby Ray's Honey BBQ sauce. I normally do my own sauce using mango nectar and apricot pineapple jam, but felt lazy today. This worked out well. Thanks for the help. Looking forward to moving on to something else.

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        • MBMorgan
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          Haven't tried it yet, but I wonder if big binder clips would work on the PBC like they do on Weber kettles to help keep the seal tight?

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          • Joedvasquez
            Club Member
            • Apr 2016
            • 46
            • San Francisco Bay Area

            That's a good idea. I was in a pinch and this was what I had in the yard but a clip or vice grips might be a decent idea. Thinking to squeeze under the rebar to bring the lid down maybe?

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            • MBMorgan
              MBMorgan commented
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              Just the rim, I'm thinking ...
          • fzxdoc
            Founding Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 4138
            • My toys:
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              Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


              Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
              Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
              Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
              Grill Grate for SnS
              Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections with GrateGriddle for Summit S650 gasser (they sit on top of existing Weber SS grates)
              2 Grill Grate Griddles
              Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser

              Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
              Fireboard Competition Probes 1" (two) and two more Ambient Probes
              Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
              Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
              Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
              Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
              Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
              Thermoworks Timestick Trio
              Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
              Maverick ET 733
              Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
              Grill Pinz
              Vortex (two of them)

              Two Joule Sous Vide devices
              VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
              Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
              Charcoal Companion TurboQue
              A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

              BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

              Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
              Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
              Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
              Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

            Joedvasquez , if you have to use clamps or pavers stacked on top of the lid to keep your smoker from leaking smoke around the rim, then the PBC folks need to replace your smoker. I've had two PBCs, and the only thing needed to keep the lid from leaking (on the occasions when that happens) has been a few taps with the rubber sole of my shoe. It doesn't happen all the time; otherwise I'd keep a rubber mallet handy. I'm glad to hear and see how well the cook turned out. Good job!

            flyby , those ribs will be pretty doggone tasty, I'm guessing. A climbing temperature like you had is often an indication that your lid might need a few whaps of a rubber mallet as well at the start of the cook. I almost never have to foil my rebar holes during a cook. Just sayin'. Congrats on a successful first cook.

            Kathryn

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            • PappyBBQ
              PappyBBQ commented
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              As I mentioned in a different post, this sounds like a barrel that is out of round.
          • flyby
            Former Member
            • Apr 2016
            • 44
            • Michigan

            fzxdoc , the ribs were nearly perfect! My bride loved 'em, and while I thought they were better than anything I've ever tried on a regular grill, I thought they were just a tad over cooked. I read the guideline of 3 to 4 hours, and hard to get an accurate reading with a probe due to all the bone.... I went for a total time of just shy of 4 hours with the two slabs (about 5.8 pounds total) - the last 25 minutes were saucing them....

            Overall I am very pleased with the cooker, and certainly for the first dip in the lake, not bad at all... My thanks to you and others who chimed in with tips and encouragement!!!
            Last edited by flyby; April 17th, 2016, 05:21 AM.

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            • fzxdoc
              Founding Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 4138
              • My toys:
                Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
                Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
                Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
                Weber Kettle Premium 22"
                Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
                Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
                Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
                Grill Grate for SnS
                Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections with GrateGriddle for Summit S650 gasser (they sit on top of existing Weber SS grates)
                2 Grill Grate Griddles
                Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser

                Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
                Fireboard Competition Probes 1" (two) and two more Ambient Probes
                Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
                Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
                Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
                Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
                Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
                Thermoworks Timestick Trio
                Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
                Maverick ET 733
                Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
                Grill Pinz
                Vortex (two of them)

                Two Joule Sous Vide devices
                VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
                Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
                Charcoal Companion TurboQue
                A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

                BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

                Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
                Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
                Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
                Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

              Wow, those ribs sure look pretty with the smoke ring and all. The bend test works pretty good for me and ribs, when testing for doneness. And think of all you learned already! The PBC is such a forgiving cooker that you'll be an expert in no time! (And have a lot of tasty meals along the way).

              Love the photos...thanks for posting them. Another happy PBC user on the planet. Yay!

              Kathryn

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              • fzxdoc
                Founding Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 4138
                • My toys:
                  Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
                  Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
                  Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
                  Weber Kettle Premium 22"
                  Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
                  Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                  Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                  Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
                  Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
                  Grill Grate for SnS
                  Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections with GrateGriddle for Summit S650 gasser (they sit on top of existing Weber SS grates)
                  2 Grill Grate Griddles
                  Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser

                  Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
                  Fireboard Competition Probes 1" (two) and two more Ambient Probes
                  Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
                  Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
                  Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
                  Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
                  Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
                  Thermoworks Timestick Trio
                  Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
                  Maverick ET 733
                  Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
                  Grill Pinz
                  Vortex (two of them)

                  Two Joule Sous Vide devices
                  VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
                  Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
                  Charcoal Companion TurboQue
                  A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

                  BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

                  Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
                  Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
                  Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
                  Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

                Joedvasquez , I forgot to mention one thing I do with managing the smoke leaks around the rim. After whapping with a shoe or rubber mallet, if I still see little wisps of smoke, I foil the rim with heavy duty foil. That works like a charm. Try that instead of the pavers.

                My PBC doesn't leak around the rim all the time. I've done a bazillion cooks on it, though, and there's a lot of gunk buildup on the lid. Every now and again, I'll clean the inside of the lid rim and the barrel lip with a Scotch scrubber, and that helps with the seal.

                But with your situation, being a brand new PBC, I'm guessing that there is some warping that went on, and the lid simply does not fit the barrel properly. The PBC folks are great about replacing faulty PBCs quickly and with almost no hassle. They deliver the replacement to your house, you take it out, put the old PBC back in the same box, seal it up and slap on the shipping sticker they provide, and let the shipping folks know to come back to your house to pick it up. Easy peasy.

                Kathryn

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                • Joedvasquez
                  Joedvasquez commented
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                  Wow that's great! I'm going to email them today. Thank you.
              • flyby
                Former Member
                • Apr 2016
                • 44
                • Michigan

                Just a couple of thoughts about the PBC after my first cook - first off, I love it!!! I can see why those who have been cooking on it for a long time sing its praises. I had no issues with it - fiddled just a bit with the bottom opening to see what changing it does and I think I have it dialed in for 660' elevation. I was readily able to seal up the rebar holes for finer temp control, no issues there. My lid seems to seal very well, maybe just lucky. While in place, it rotates very freely and frankly, cant see where beating on it with anything would change a thing. It simply lies there, very flat, again maybe just lucky.

                I did buy the ash collector pan and it was about 99% effective in containing the mess that would have been there otherwise. What little that is left can easily be vacuumed out with the shop vac. I found no moisture in the bottom at all, drier than the proverbial popcorn fart....

                A twelve pound full packer brisket is the next project, followed up with the eye of round that is currently brining. Keeping notes on what I've done so I'm not AS likely to repeat past mistakes.....

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                • fzxdoc
                  Founding Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 4138
                  • My toys:
                    Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
                    Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
                    Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
                    Weber Kettle Premium 22"
                    Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
                    Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
                    Grill Grate for SnS
                    Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections with GrateGriddle for Summit S650 gasser (they sit on top of existing Weber SS grates)
                    2 Grill Grate Griddles
                    Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser

                    Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
                    Fireboard Competition Probes 1" (two) and two more Ambient Probes
                    Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
                    Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
                    Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
                    Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
                    Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
                    Thermoworks Timestick Trio
                    Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
                    Maverick ET 733
                    Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
                    Grill Pinz
                    Vortex (two of them)

                    Two Joule Sous Vide devices
                    VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
                    Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
                    Charcoal Companion TurboQue
                    A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

                    BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

                    Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
                    Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
                    Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
                    Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife


                  #23.2

                  jtabasco54 commented
                  June 4th, 2016, 09:21 AM


                  That has been my precise experience! Follow the original instructions and you get the best balance of temperature regulation and length of burn. I am curious why others have needed to modify the instructions. Interesting.

                  @jtabasco54 , it all depends on the PBC, is what I can make out. I've had 2 of them and have had the same experience with both. When I followed Noah's lighting instructions, my PBC's temperature fell steadily from the get-go, stabilizing out in the 210-240 range. Plus, when I added the meat, I got a ton of white smoke that took rather a long while to settle out.

                  With the lighting method that I outlined in the first post of this topic, my PBC's sweet spot is 275 and don't get much white smoke at all. Instead I get several hours of beautiful blue smoke at 275 pit temp. And I get single basket burns that range from 8 hours to 12 hours, depending. Works for me!

                  I think it just varies a bit from PBC to PBC sometimes. That's why I put the link to Noah's lighting instructions in the first post as well. We each just need to do whatever makes our PBCs happy.

                  So if Noah's lighting method works for you, great! Smoke on!

                  Kathryn
                  Last edited by fzxdoc; June 4th, 2016, 11:01 AM.

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                  • JPP
                    JPP
                    Founding Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 228
                    • Massachusetts
                    • PBC
                      Weber Smokey Joe, no legs... kettle rusted at the attachment point
                      An expensive but cheap gas grill (too embarassed to admit brand)
                      Barely adequate probe type meat therm. (brookstone quality)
                      Maverick E-732

                      Guiness Draught (why drink coors lite at 110 calories? Guiness is 124!)

                    I truly like Kathryn's lighting method. No nasty chems (other than what's in KB's binding material). I've had occasional deviations and I've never had the barrel hit 360F or above on initial ignition. I've had similar experiences to Kathryn when following Noah's instructions (I'm at sea level btw)... but even following the directions in this post, I've not exactly had repeat experiences either. The temp profiles I've had are good but often have required my tweaking and when I get it wrong, babysitting!

                    My last cook however went the smoothest yet. Here is what I did differently...

                    I used Kathryn's method of course (we physics people have to stick together)...

                    KBB, filled the basket... and when it seemed full, I added 15-20 more briquetts... i.e. I made it FULL.

                    I used 42 briqs in the chimney because I like the hitchhiker's guide... no other reason... and Im fairly sure not enough of one to make any diff :-)

                    Took extra pains to spread the lit charcoal...

                    Forced myself to be patient...

                    Hung the meat on one side, and put the wood chunks on the other.


                    It came up to 330, stepped down to 280 for a while... then down to 260... and bounced there... I went for a run... and when I was back in an hour or so (started to rain) it was actually hovering around 280. I did not have to pull a rebar (as I've often had to do) or crack the lid or nothing. The temp got as low as 247-248 but it did not stay there long... it was back up to 260-280. If I had planned on going on that run, I wouldve graphed the profile.

                    My expectation is that the proper filling of the basket and patience are the two key features!

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                    • fzxdoc
                      Founding Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 4138
                      • My toys:
                        Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
                        Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
                        Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
                        Weber Kettle Premium 22"
                        Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
                        Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                        Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                        Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
                        Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
                        Grill Grate for SnS
                        Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections with GrateGriddle for Summit S650 gasser (they sit on top of existing Weber SS grates)
                        2 Grill Grate Griddles
                        Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser

                        Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
                        Fireboard Competition Probes 1" (two) and two more Ambient Probes
                        Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
                        Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
                        Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
                        Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
                        Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
                        Thermoworks Timestick Trio
                        Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
                        Maverick ET 733
                        Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
                        Grill Pinz
                        Vortex (two of them)

                        Two Joule Sous Vide devices
                        VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
                        Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
                        Charcoal Companion TurboQue
                        A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

                        BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

                        Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
                        Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
                        Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
                        Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

                      Woo Hoo! Here's a shout out to all my physics compadres out there. JPP !

                      You lit my nerdy fires with your rationalization for using 42 coals. I will mos' def' have to switch to 42 as well.
                      The number 42 is, in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams, " Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"
                      I overfill the basket for long cooks and of course always distribute the lit coals evenly with the tip of the rebar, as described in the first post.

                      I think what you saw is that in the initial phases of the cook, the hot side is on the vent side. When that starts to get spent, the hot side is on the side opposite the vent, and the temp begins to climb back up. Depending on where you place the smoker probe, you may see that scenario as well.

                      Your comment about patience is spot on: I used to fiddle a lot with the PBC to get the best temp ever. Now that I use two pit probes with each cook (one on the vent side and one on the side opposite the vent), both suspended at the level of the meat, I find that the average Pit temp stays pretty much on target throughout the cook until I have to start lifting the lid to verify meat temps with my Thermapen or crutch the meat. Once I introduce more oxygen, the fire seems to be less stable. But for a long cook, the ave temp stays pretty much rock solid at 270-290 for 5-6 hours until I have to lift the lid. Plus the smoke is such a pretty blue during that time! It's so nice that I hate to have to lift the lid to check the meat temps or foil! It's like having a sleeping dragon in there, albeit a nice one, even when riled by lifting the lid.

                      Kathryn
                      Last edited by fzxdoc; June 14th, 2016, 10:26 AM.

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                      • UncleFester
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                        Kathryn,

                        One question: You mentioned you overfill a bit for longer cooks. Do you do the opposite for shorter cooks? (Underfill a bit). I am thinking that would work just fine as long as the initial charcoal lighting has 40 coals spread evenly over the lesser number of un-lit coals. Thoughts?

                      • fzxdoc
                        fzxdoc commented
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                        UncleFester, no, I don't usually underfill at all. I consider the cost of charcoal to be the least $$$ contributor in the smoking process, so I fill the basket even for short cooks. That way I have reproducibility of barrel temperature for every cook.

                        Kathryn

                      • UncleFester
                        UncleFester commented
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                        Very good point. Charcoal is so cheap anyway. Thanks
                    • GourmandPhil
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                      Originally posted by fzxdoc View Post
                      I did get those gloves. Wow do they work great, but then they're pretty pricey. I think I could grab on to the hinges of hell with them, though.

                      Kathryn
                      Do you happen to know what the model number is? I was looking at the catalog and there are a number of options. http://www.chicagoprotective.com/pdf/CPA-Cat-4001.pdf

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                      Surely you know somebody who loves outdoor cooking who deserves a gift for the holidays, birthday, anniversary, or just for being wonderful. There he is, right in the mirror! Here are our selections of best ideas, all Platinum or Gold Medalists, listed by price.

                      Click here to see our list of Gold Medal Gifts


                      Digital Thermometers Are Your Most Valuable Tool And Here's A Great Buy!

                      maverick PT55 thermometer

                      A good digital thermometer keeps you from serving dry overcooked food or dangerously undercooked food. They are much faster and much more accurate than dial thermometers. YOU NEED ONE!

                      Click here for more info on the Maverick PT-55 Waterproof Instant-Read Thermometer Review shown above. It may be the best value in a thermometer out there


                      If you have a Weber Kettle, you need the Slow 'N' Sear

                      slow n sear

                      The Slow 'N' Sear turns your grill into a first class smoker and also creates an extremely hot sear zone you can use to create steakhouse steaks.

                      Click here for our article on this breakthrough tool


                      Bring The Heat With Broil King Signet's Dual Tube Burners

                      the good one grill

                      The Broil King Signet 320 is a modestly priced, 3-burner gas grill that packs a lot of value and power under the hood. Broil King's proprietary, dual-tube burners get hot fast and are able to achieve high, searing temps that rival most comparatively priced gas grills. The quality cast aluminum housing carries a Limited Lifetime Warranty.

                      Click here to read our complete review


                      The Good-One Is A Superb Grill And A Superb Smoker All In One

                      the good one grill

                      The Good-One Open Range is a charcoal grill with an offset smoke chamber attached. It is dramatically different from a traditional offset smoker. The grill sits low in front and doubles as a firebox for the smoke chamber which is spliced on above and behind so it can work like a horizontal offset smoker only better. By placing the heat source behind and under the smokebox instead of off to the side, Open Range produces even temperature from left to right, something almost impossible to achieve with a standard barrel shaped offset.

                      Click here to read our complete review


                      Pit Barrel Cooker Smoker

                      Griddle And Deep Fryer All In One

                      The flat top does the burgers and the fryer does the fries. Use the griddle for bacon, eggs, and home fries. Or pancakes, fajitas, grilled cheese, you name it. Why stink up the house deep frying and spatter all over? Do your fried chicken and calamari outside. Blackstone's Rangetop Combo With Deep Fryer does it all. Plus it has a built in cutting board, garbage bag holder, and paper towel holder. An additional work table on the left side provides plenty of counter space.

                      Click here to read our detailed review and to order


                      Pit Barrel Cooker Smoker

                      The Pit Barrel Cooker May Be Too Easy

                      The PBC has a rabid cult following for good reason. It is absolutely positively without a doubt the best bargain on a smoker in the world. Period. This baby will cook circles around the cheap offset sideways barrel smokers in the hardware stores because temperature control is so much easier. Best of all, it is only $299 delivered to your door!

                      Click here to read our detailed review and the raves from people who own them


                      The Swiss Army Knife Of Thermometers

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                      The smart folks at ThermoWorks have finally done it: The Swiss Army Knife of thermometers, two in one. Start with the industry standard food thermometer, the Thermapen MK4, (Platinum Medal winner) truly instant (2 to 3 seconds) precise (+ or – 0.7°F). Then they built in an infrared thermometer ideal for measuring the temps of pizza stones, griddles, and frying pans (also great for finding leaks around doors and windows in your house).

                      Click here to read our test results and comprehensive review and why it won our Platinum Medal.


                      Compact Powerful Sear Machine For Your Next Tailgater

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                      Char-Broil's Grill2Go x200 is a super-portable, fun little sizzler made of heavy, rust-proof cast aluminum. The lid snaps shut. Grab the handle and you're off to the party! Char-Broil's TRU-Infrared design produces searing heat while reducing fuel consumption. A 16 ounce LP gas canister is enough to keep you flipping burgers for hours.

                      Click here to read our detailed review and to order


                      The Cool Kettle With The Hinged Hood We Always Wanted

                      NK-22-Ck Grill

                      Their NK22CK-C Charcoal Kettle Grill puts a few spins on the familiar kettle design. In fact, the hinged lid with a handle on the front, spins in a rotary motion 180 degrees. It's hard to beat a Weber kettle, but Napoleon holds its own and adds some unique features to make the NK22CK-C a viable alternative.

                      Click here for more about what makes this grill special


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                      G&F Suede Welder's Gloves

                      Heat Resistant Gloves With Extra Long Sleeves Hold The Hot Stuff

                      If you're using oven mitts at the grill, it's time to trade up. Say hello to these suede welder's gloves. They're heat resistant enough to handle hot grill grates, and flexible enough to handle tongs. The extra long sleeves even let you reach deep into the firebox to move hot logs without getting burned. Our Fave.

                      Click here to read our detailed review

                      Click here to order from Amazon


                      GrillGrates Take Gas Grills To The Infrared Zone

                      grill grates

                      GrillGrates(TM) amplify heat, prevent flareups, make flipping foods easier, keep small foods from committing suicide, kill hotspots, are easier to clean, flip over to make a fine griddle, and can be easily removed and moved from one grill to another. You can even throw wood chips, pellets, or sawdust between the rails and deliver a quick burst of smoke to whatever is above. Every gas grill needs them.

                      Click here for more about what makes these grates so special


                      kareubequ bbq smoker

                      Our Favorite Backyard Smoker

                      The amazing Karubecue is the most innovative smoker in the world. The quality of meat from this machine is astonishing. At its crux is a patented firebox that burns logs above the cooking chamber and sucks heat and extremely clean blue smoke into the thermostat controlled oven. It is our favorite smoker, period.

                      Click here for our review of this superb smoker


                      Masterbuilt MPS 340/G ThermoTemp XL Propane Smoker

                      masterbuilt gas smoker

                      The First Propane Smoker With A Thermostat Makes This Baby Foolproof

                      Set ThermoTemp's dial from 175° to 350°F and the thermostat inside will adjust the burner just like an indoor kitchen oven. All you need to do is add wood to the tray above the burner to start smokin'.

                      Click here to read our detailed review


                      Professional Steakhouse Knife Set

                      masterbuilt gas smoker

                      Our founder, Meathead, wanted the same steak knives used by steakhouses such as Peter Luger, Smith & Wollensky, Morton's, Kobe Club, Palm, and many others. So he located the manufacturer and had them stamp our name on some. They boast pointed, temper-ground, serrated, high-carbon stainless-steel, half-tang blades with excellent cutting edge ability. The beefy hardwood handle provides a comfortable grip secured by three hefty rivets. He has machine washed his more than 100 times. They have never rusted and they stay shiny without polishing. Please note that we do not make, sell, or distribute these knives, they just engrave them with our name.

                      Click here to read our detailed review and to order


                      PK 360 grill

                      Is This Superb Charcoal Grill A Kamado Killer?

                      The PK-360, with 360 square inches of cooking space, this rust free, cast aluminum charcoal grill is durable and easy to use. Four-way venting means it's easy to set up for two zone cooking with more control than single vent Kamado grills. It is much easier to set up for 2-zone cooking than any round kamado. Beautifully designed and completely portable. Meathead says it is his preferrred grill.

                      Click here to read our detailed review of the PK 360

                      Click here to order it direct from PK and get a special deal for AmazingRibs.com readers only


                      Fireboard: The Ultimate Top Of The Line BBQ Thermometer

                      fireboard bbq thermometer

                      With the ability to monitor up to six temperatures simultaneously with either Bluetooth or Wifi on your mobile phone, tablet, or computer, Fireboard is the best digital thermometer we’ve tested.

                      Click here to read our detailed review


                      Finally, A Great Portable Pellet Smoker

                      Green Mountain Davey Crockett Grill

                      Green Mountain's portable Davy Crockett Pellet Smoker is one mean tailgating and picnic machine. But it's also gaining popularity with people who want to add a small, set it and forget it pellet smoker to their backyard arsenal. And with their WiFi capabilities you can control and monitor Davy Crocket from your smart phone or laptop.

                      Click here to read our detailed review and to order