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  • marcel
    Former Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 5

    #61
    I watched the enlightening Smoke seminar. At one point docblonder talked about the importance of the air intake vent being close to the fire to prevent smouldering (and bad smoke). I believe he was talking about the downsides of the minion method, where the fire "snake" is sometimes near the vent and sometimes far, so to prevent smoldering the Operator would need to open and close vents over time to "follow" the fire to keep it well-fed with oxygenated air.

    I feel like that's at least an argument to shove the charcoal basket as close as possible to the air intake vent (off center). I don't think my idea of lighting just one side of the basket would be a good solution, because it's essentially the minion method with the fire initially located far from the vent and thus producing "bad" smoke during the critical "cold meat" phase of cooking. Plus all those unlit coals would presumably produce bad smoke as they slowly light. However, I might try to stack a bit more unlit charcoal near the vent and a bit less on the "far" side, then cover the unlit coals with an even layer of chimney-lit coals.

    Another thing the Smoke seminar made me think about was the "quest for less intense charcoal flavor" that I remember a few users posting about last summer, I think CRO . I remember people talking about really getting the basket of charcoal well lit, such as dumping in a full-size Weber chimney of coal (100 coals?) instead of 40 that the small chimney produces. In light of Dr. Blonder's caution about a few minutes of "bad smoke" from a smoldering (cold) fire ruining a piece of meat, this technique sounds worthy of further investigation. I've never tried the lighter-fluid method but it seems like it would light the entire charcoal stack quite well too.

    What's the downside to lighting with 80-100 coals? Does the fire go out sooner (8 hours instead of 12)? Does it not maintain the same temp profile (250-290)? Is it just hard to wield the large chimney and dump out the coals? Do you achieve the same thing by lighting the fire with 40 coals and letting it burn longer before adding the meat (as Kathryn's updated technique does)? Does the fire smoulder if too many coals are lit and the airflow is restricted by the lid?

    So many questions for such a seemingly simple device...

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    • JPP
      JPP
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      • Jul 2014
      • 232
      • Massachusetts
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      #62
      Marcel, the problem I have with the large chimney is that its too tall to dump out effectively when the coal basket is already in the barrel... That's why I pour them with the basket outside, and use the garden rake to hoist it in. I've used 50 coals for ignition and I've found I end up with variable temperature profile results. My first cook, I took about half the full basket and put them into the chimney. It certainly "worked" , but the barrel definitely ran hot. Last cook I used 45, and while I have no clue if +/-5 coals is enough to make a diff, but it was the best control over the temperature I've ever had.

      Another issue (as far as taste goes) is that Kingsford blue supposedly has coal dust component as well so my imagination suggests a purer product might produce better tasting food... The downside would be having to learn a new set of quirks!
      Last edited by JPP; April 24th, 2015, 07:14 PM.

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      • fzxdoc
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        #63
        Marcel, like JPP I have found that 50 coals (Kingsford Original) were too many in the basket. The fire ran hot, then erratic, then cooled too quickly. I get a much longer, more stable burn when I use 40 coals. It's sort of a magic number for me.

        As far as using other fuels goes, I used some Ozark Oak lump charcoal to cook a couple of chickens last week and found that it runs much hotter than Kingsford Original does. However, the flavor profile was better, to my mind, with Kingsford. The next time I use Ozark Oak, I may mix the two.

        I have watched that Smoke seminar 4 times now, and each time I retain something new. It's a marvelous seminar--a real plus to have available to us Pitmasters.

        One thing I learned on Harry Soo's seminar is that many smokers are more sensitive to air flow adjustments at the top of the device as compared to the bottom. I have seen this in action with the PBC. Adjusting the lower vent does nothing for increasing the smoker temp, while pulling a rebar or cracking the lid makes a huge difference. For that reason, I'll be curious to hear about your findings when you move the basket closer to the lower vent opening.

        Keep us posted!

        Kathryn

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        • PackWolf
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          • May 2015
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          #64
          Great advise here! I'm pretty much using every bit of it.

          I tried something today that seemed to work really well regarding using wax starter cubes and a chimney. I took a piece of my smoke wood (I use chunks) about 2-1/2 inches tall, put a piece of foil over it, and placed the paraffin cube on top. When I placed the chimney over it (I have the full size weber model) the proximity of the cube to the charcoal forced the flames to fan out and contact a larger surface area of the charcoal. It was the quickest and most even ignition I have had using the starter cubes.

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          • PackWolf
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            • May 2015
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            #65
            I made a rig out of an old wire coat hanger with some needle nose pliers to hold the probe clip for my Maverick 733. I didn't want to just let the bbq temperature probe just hang freely. I just hang the rig over the rebar. Click image for larger version

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            • Jerod Broussard
              Jerod Broussard commented
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              Neato!!!

              I free hang, well, probably more of a free dangle. When I finally get to run mine with my Auber fan, I will have that sensor and the maverick (both on alligator clips) go around each a rebar, then over it and meet in the middle and clip together.

            • fzxdoc
              fzxdoc commented
              Editing a comment
              Nice idea, PackWolf. That would keep the probe from touching the meat, perhaps, which I always have to check for and reposition the probe accordingly.

              At the present time, I just wrap the probe's wire over the rebar a one or two times and let it dangle at the mid-level of the meat.

              Your method is definitely worth a try. Thanks!

              Kathryn
          • fzxdoc
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            • Jul 2014
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            #66
            Originally posted by PackWolf View Post
            Great advise here! I'm pretty much using every bit of it.

            I tried something today that seemed to work really well regarding using wax starter cubes and a chimney. I took a piece of my smoke wood (I use chunks) about 2-1/2 inches tall, put a piece of foil over it, and placed the paraffin cube on top. When I placed the chimney over it (I have the full size weber model) the proximity of the cube to the charcoal forced the flames to fan out and contact a larger surface area of the charcoal. It was the quickest and most even ignition I have had using the starter cubes.
            That's a good idea, PackWolf, because it would heat the wood up as well--right? Even though the wood is dry, I like to get the billowy white stuff out of the way in the pre-meat-hanging stage, which is why, at Ernest 's recommendation I switched several months ago to a second 10 minute burn with the lid on, rebars out, on the PBC. That's usually when I add the wood, too. Adding "hot" wood might inch me toward that coveted "blue smoke" stage sooner. I'm going to give it a go at my next PBC cook, which I'm hoping is soon! Like today!

            Kathryn

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            • psuftball1
              Founding Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 16
              • Lansing, MI

              #67
              I did my first pork butt this weekend. I followed the lighting instructions perfectly (I'm at about 900 ft above sea level). Temp held steady for the first five hours or so, but then dropped to 190 while I was out running errands. Had to crack the lid a few more times thoughout the cook to keep the temp up. Towards the end I noticed I had several unlit coals on the side farthest from the vent. I moved those closer to the vent, and pulled one of the rebars to keep the temp at 250. This was an 8lb butt and cook time was right around 10 hours which seems reasonable. It was a very cold and windy morning so I think I may have burned too many of the coals when lighting. I noticed that even after the lid was on for 10 mins there was still a fire burning inside the barrel. Couple of questions, does anyone else have issues with the coals furthest from the vent not lighting? I'm not sure if the vent needs opened slightly as I feel it's about a quarter open but can't really tell. On a windy day, does it make sense that the lighting times may vary to get the best results? When adding wood chunks, I assume the fire on the coals should be out so that the wood smolders and doesn't catch fire? The pork came out tasting amazing, just trying to fine tune for the next cook! Thanks for the help!

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              • _John_
                Former Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 2454

                #68
                Open it a bit more and I think that will fix it. Opening too much won't really do anything since you have the exhaust plugged with rebar, but not having enough will starve the fire. Most people seem to not have a problem, but seems to be an issue for some of us.

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                • fzxdoc
                  Founding Member
                  • Jul 2014
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                    Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
                    Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
                    Grill Grate for SnS
                    Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
                    Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser
                    2 Grill Grate Griddles

                    Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
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                    Additional Fireboard probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
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                  #69
                  Ditto what John said. Opening the vent a bit more seems to solve fire starvation problems.

                  I never rearrange the coals--well, I rotated the basket once and it stirred up so much ash that I never did that again. Of course I hadn't removed the meat. They were chickens and still tasted fine, but all that floating ash scared me. I didn't want to have to wash down those birds to get bitter ash off. I figured if I ever did it again I'd remove the meat, fiddle with the coals, let the ash die down, and put the meat back in.

                  I usually get 10 hour cooks with my pork butts, too, and I let the fire get good and hot before adding the meat. Only once did the fire poop out at 8 hours--a pastrami and pork butt cook. I hadn't done anything different for the lighting process. That taught me that there are variables that either I have not learned to control or that may be out of my control. Whichever it is, there's always a solution (finish it up, foil-wrapped, in the oven), the food still tastes great, and you'll still have had a whale of a good time cooking on the PBC.

                  Kathryn

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                  • psuftball1
                    Founding Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 16
                    • Lansing, MI

                    #70
                    Yeah, I was having problems with ash stirring up anytime I opened the lid. Like I said, it was a very windy day . I did end up finishing it in the oven, but that wasn't a problem. This was the longest cook I've done so far as I've only done ribs and chickens the other two times I've used it. I just wasn't expecting the unused coals, so wanted to get some thoughts! Thank you to the both of you!

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                    • Big Jim
                      Former Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 9

                      #71
                      I'm having trouble getting my PBC temps up. I've used the technique clearly written by fzxdoc several times now and have struggled getting the temps into the low 200's. I can get the temps up temporarily by opening the lid (more than a crack) but then they go back down often to below 200 degrees. I'd like to learn how to the keep the temps up to make Chicken/Turkey. Also, I don't really like to keep the lid open as usually use some smoke wood and don't want to loose all the smoke.

                      The only difference to the technique I use is lighting the coals on an outdoor gas burner. The other variable that might be effecting the temperature is that I've been cooking 4-8 hooks worth of meat, either half chickens or ribs. I understand that the temp will drop when the meat is first placed but thought the temp would stabilize quickly after that. Next time I'll leave out one of the rebars as mentioned above. Any other ideas for me to try? Should I open the bottom vent up a little more?

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                      • fzxdoc
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                        • Jul 2014
                        • 4807
                        • My toys:
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                          Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
                          Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                          Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                          Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
                          Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
                          Grill Grate for SnS
                          Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
                          Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser
                          2 Grill Grate Griddles

                          Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
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                          Additional Fireboard probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
                          2 Fireboard Driver Cables
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                          Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
                          Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
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                          Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
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                          Thermoworks Timestick Trio
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                          BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

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                          Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
                          Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
                          Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

                        #72
                        Big Jim , what is the altitude where you live? How far open is your lower vent?

                        It sounds as though you're not getting a good enough light on that fire and/or that the fire is starved for oxygen.

                        Are you using Kingsford Original charcoal? Is your charcoal dry (do you keep it in a sealed container?)

                        You could open your lower vent some more to see if the temps go up.

                        What is the highest pit temp before you add the meat?

                        I often cook on 6 to 8 hooks, and when it's chicken and sausages on hooks or bacon-covered meatloaf (on the grate), I use Kingsford Competition which burns a lot hotter. In fact, sometimes I have to foil the rebar holes to keep the smoker temps in the 330-360 range.

                        For other meats, the mid-200s work well for me and I use Kingsford Original for that.

                        And, to answer your question, pulling a rebar will help to keep the temps higher. If you're using 6-8 hooks, though, I imagine that both rebars are spoken for.

                        Are most of the coals in the chimney pretty well ashed over when you pour them?

                        Kathryn

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                        • Big Jim
                          Former Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 9

                          #73
                          Kathryn, thanks for the tips! I am at sea level, but I'll try opening the lower vent a little more. I suppose it can't hurt as I use my PBC mostly for shorter cooks. The highest pit temps I've gotten up to before adding the meat is the high 200s. Maybe i should wait a little longer with the lid open before hanging the meat? I keep my coals in the garage so their not exposed to the elements. I'm going to try some Kingford Competition next time I do poultry. I'll report back! Thanks again

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                          • fzxdoc
                            Founding Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 4807
                            • My toys:
                              Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
                              Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
                              Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill
                              Weber Kettle Premium 22"
                              Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
                              Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                              Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                              Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
                              Adrenaline BBQ Company's SS Rack for DnG
                              Grill Grate for SnS
                              Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
                              Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser
                              2 Grill Grate Griddles

                              Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
                              Fireboard control unit in addition to that in the Extreme BBQ Package
                              Additional Fireboard probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
                              2 Fireboard Driver Cables
                              Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
                              Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
                              Thermoworks Thermapen MK5 (pink)
                              Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 (pink too)
                              Thermoworks Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
                              Thermoworks Extra Big and Loud Timer
                              Thermoworks Timestick Trio
                              Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
                              Maverick ET 733
                              Maverick (Ivation) ET 732

                              Grill Pinz
                              Vortex (two of them)

                              Two Joule Sous Vide devices
                              VacMaster Pro 350 Vacuum Sealer
                              Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
                              Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
                              Charcoal Companion TurboQue
                              A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets

                              BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney

                              Shun Classic 8" Chef's Knife
                              Shun Classic 6" Chef's Knife
                              Shun Classic Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
                              Shun Classic 3 1/2 inch Paring Knife

                            #74
                            Big Jim , let us know how your experiments turn out. I hope that opening that lower vent helps.

                            I keep my charcoal in the garage as well, but I store it in big Rubbermaid containers to keep the humidity out. I think a lot of Pitmaster folks here do the same.

                            When I smoked 3 chickens and 18 sausages in my PBC a couple of weeks ago, it was crammed pretty full with both rebars in use, so I had to keep the lid cracked throughout the entire cook to keep the temperature up above 325 with Kingsford Competition.

                            Do you let the fire burn, with the lid off and rebars out, for an additional 10 minutes after pouring the coals? Then put the lid on (rebars still out) and let it burn for another 10 minutes? For me this is essential to get the temps up before adding the meat, especially for chicken or for a lot of meat. If I'm smoking something that is to be "low and slow" then I often don't bother with the second 10 minute (lid on, rebars out) step.

                            Kathryn

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                            • psuftball1
                              Founding Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 16
                              • Lansing, MI

                              #75
                              Did another pork butt today and opened the vent a little more than it was. Temps definitely maintained better throughout the cook, but the coal farthest from the opening still didn't burn through prior to me rotating the basket. I did get about 14 hours out of the coal though. Wondering if I should try to open the vent even more, or just stick with where it's at now as I was pleased with the cook?

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                              Surely you know somebody who loves outdoor cooking who deserves a gift for the holidays, birthday, anniversary, or just for being wonderful. There he is, right in the mirror! Here are our selections of best ideas, all Platinum or Gold Medalists, listed by price.

                              Click here to see our list of Gold Medal Gifts


                              Digital Thermometers Are Your Most Valuable Tool And Here's A Great Buy!

                              maverick PT55 thermometer

                              A good digital thermometer keeps you from serving dry overcooked food or dangerously undercooked food. They are much faster and much more accurate than dial thermometers. YOU NEED ONE!

                              Click here for more info on the Maverick PT-55 Waterproof Instant-Read Thermometer Review shown above. It may be the best value in a thermometer out there


                              If you have a Weber Kettle, you need the Slow 'N' Sear

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                              The Slow 'N' Sear turns your grill into a first class smoker and also creates an extremely hot sear zone you can use to create steakhouse steaks.

                              Click here for our article on this breakthrough tool


                              Bring The Heat With Broil King Signet's Dual Tube Burners

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                              The Broil King Signet 320 is a modestly priced, 3-burner gas grill that packs a lot of value and power under the hood. Broil King's proprietary, dual-tube burners get hot fast and are able to achieve high, searing temps that rival most comparatively priced gas grills. The quality cast aluminum housing carries a Limited Lifetime Warranty.

                              Click here to read our complete review


                              The Good-One Is A Superb Grill And A Superb Smoker All In One

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                              The Good-One Open Range is a charcoal grill with an offset smoke chamber attached. It is dramatically different from a traditional offset smoker. The grill sits low in front and doubles as a firebox for the smoke chamber which is spliced on above and behind so it can work like a horizontal offset smoker only better. By placing the heat source behind and under the smokebox instead of off to the side, Open Range produces even temperature from left to right, something almost impossible to achieve with a standard barrel shaped offset.

                              Click here to read our complete review


                              Pit Barrel Cooker Smoker

                              Griddle And Deep Fryer All In One

                              The flat top does the burgers and the fryer does the fries. Use the griddle for bacon, eggs, and home fries. Or pancakes, fajitas, grilled cheese, you name it. Why stink up the house deep frying and spatter all over? Do your fried chicken and calamari outside. Blackstone's Rangetop Combo With Deep Fryer does it all. Plus it has a built in cutting board, garbage bag holder, and paper towel holder. An additional work table on the left side provides plenty of counter space.

                              Click here to read our detailed review and to order


                              Pit Barrel Cooker Smoker

                              The Pit Barrel Cooker May Be Too Easy

                              The PBC has a rabid cult following for good reason. It is absolutely positively without a doubt the best bargain on a smoker in the world. Period. This baby will cook circles around the cheap offset sideways barrel smokers in the hardware stores because temperature control is so much easier. Best of all, it is only $299 delivered to your door!

                              Click here to read our detailed review and the raves from people who own them


                              The Undisputed Champion!

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                              The Thermoworks Thermapen MK4 is considered by the pros, and our team, to be the single best instant read thermometer. Don't accept cheap substitutes.  Click here to read our test results and comprehensive review and why it won our Platinum Medal .


                              Compact Powerful Sear Machine For Your Next Tailgater

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                              Char-Broil's Grill2Go x200 is a super-portable, fun little sizzler made of heavy, rust-proof cast aluminum. The lid snaps shut. Grab the handle and you're off to the party! Char-Broil's TRU-Infrared design produces searing heat while reducing fuel consumption. A 16 ounce LP gas canister is enough to keep you flipping burgers for hours.

                              Click here to read our detailed review and to order


                              The Cool Kettle With The Hinged Hood We Always Wanted

                              NK-22-Ck Grill

                              Their NK22CK-C Charcoal Kettle Grill puts a few spins on the familiar kettle design. In fact, the hinged lid with a handle on the front, spins in a rotary motion 180 degrees. It's hard to beat a Weber kettle, but Napoleon holds its own and adds some unique features to make the NK22CK-C a viable alternative.

                              Click here for more about what makes this grill special


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                              G&F Suede Welder's Gloves

                              Heat Resistant Gloves With Extra Long Sleeves Hold The Hot Stuff

                              If you're using oven mitts at the grill, it's time to trade up. Say hello to these suede welder's gloves. They're heat resistant enough to handle hot grill grates, and flexible enough to handle tongs. The extra long sleeves even let you reach deep into the firebox to move hot logs without getting burned. Our Fave.

                              Click here to read our detailed review

                              Click here to order from Amazon


                              GrillGrates Take Gas Grills To The Infrared Zone

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                              GrillGrates(TM) amplify heat, prevent flareups, make flipping foods easier, keep small foods from committing suicide, kill hotspots, are easier to clean, flip over to make a fine griddle, and can be easily removed and moved from one grill to another. You can even throw wood chips, pellets, or sawdust between the rails and deliver a quick burst of smoke to whatever is above. Every gas grill needs them.

                              Click here for more about what makes these grates so special


                              PK 360 grill

                              Is This Superb Charcoal Grill A Kamado Killer?

                              The PK-360, with 360 square inches of cooking space, this rust free, cast aluminum charcoal grill is durable and easy to use. Four-way venting means it's easy to set up for two zone cooking with more control than single vent Kamado grills. It is much easier to set up for 2-zone cooking than any round kamado. Beautifully designed and completely portable. Meathead says it is his preferrred grill.

                              Click here to read our detailed review of the PK 360

                              Click here to order it direct from PK and get a special deal for AmazingRibs.com readers only


                              kareubequ bbq smoker

                              Our Favorite Backyard Smoker

                              The amazing Karubecue is the most innovative smoker in the world. The quality of meat from this machine is astonishing. At its crux is a patented firebox that burns logs above the cooking chamber and sucks heat and extremely clean blue smoke into the thermostat controlled oven. It is our favorite smoker, period.

                              Click here for our review of this superb smoker


                              Masterbuilt MPS 340/G ThermoTemp XL Propane Smoker

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                              The First Propane Smoker With A Thermostat Makes This Baby Foolproof

                              Set ThermoTemp's dial from 175° to 350°F and the thermostat inside will adjust the burner just like an indoor kitchen oven. All you need to do is add wood to the tray above the burner to start smokin'.

                              Click here to read our detailed review


                              Fireboard: The Ultimate Top Of The Line BBQ Thermometer

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                              With the ability to monitor up to six temperatures simultaneously with either Bluetooth or Wifi on your mobile phone, tablet, or computer, Fireboard is the best digital thermometer we’ve tested.

                              Click here to read our detailed review


                              Finally, A Great Portable Pellet Smoker

                              Green Mountain Davey Crockett Grill

                              Green Mountain's portable Davy Crockett Pellet Smoker is one mean tailgating and picnic machine. But it's also gaining popularity with people who want to add a small, set it and forget it pellet smoker to their backyard arsenal. And with their WiFi capabilities you can control and monitor Davy Crocket from your smart phone or laptop.

                              Click here to read our detailed review and to order