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  • surfdog
    Club Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 1329
    • Sunny SoCal
    • Cooking gadgets
      Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center
      Weber Summit Platinum D6
      Blue Rhino Razor
      Dyna-Glo XL Premium Dual Chamber
      Camp Chef Somerset IV along with their Artisan Pizza Oven 90
      Anova WiFi

      Thermometers
      Thermapen Mk4 - ThermaQ High Temp Kit - ThermaQ Meathead Kit - ThermaQ WiFi - ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S - ThermoWorks Signals & Billows - ThermoPop -ThermoWorks ProNeedle - ThermoWorks TimeStick Trio x2 - and a Christopher Kimball timer - NO, I do not work for ThermoWorks...I just like their products.

      Other useful bits...
      KitchenAid 7-qt Pro Line stand mixer
      A Black & Decker food processor that I can't seem to murder
      A couple of immersion blenders, one a "consumer" model & the other a "high end" Italian thing. Yes, the Italian one is a bit better, but only marginally
      Instant Pot Duo Evo Plus 8-qt + accessories like egg-bite & egg holders
      All-Clad pots & pans, along with some cast iron...everything from 7" Skookie pans to 8.5qt Dutch ovens
      Weber GBS griddle, pizza stone, and wok
      Knives range from Mercer to F. Dick to "You spent how much for one knife? One knife?!" LOL

    Hmmm...questions about Weber.

    So I went to get some “propaganda” to convince a friend to purchase a WSM...and saw that the 22”
    WSM, which is my fave, is “out of stock.” Odd
    Curious if it will ever come back in stock. I know the 18” outsells it, Probably by a large margin.

    Stranger still is that the Summit Charcoal shows N/A. O_o
    Does that mean they’ve dropped it? If so, I’m glad I got mine when I did.

    The current Summit gasser isn’t built nearly as well as mine from 2005...
    If they’ve dropped the 22” WSM and Summit Charcoal...I honestly will have little reason to recommend them for anything other than a basic kettle.

    Yes, the 18” WSM is a fine smoker...but it requires workarounds to do a full packer or several racks of ribs. Or indeed a full rack lying flat. And I’m not convinced that the changes made to the WSCG are for the better. Sure, I can perhaps do without the gas assist...but the diffuser is different..and I’m curious about other changes. Is the table even thinner/cheaper? Their latest offerings don’t inspire confidence to me.

    Yeah, sorry for the rant but I can’t help thinking that maybe they’ve lost the plot.
  • TripleB
    Club Member
    • May 2017
    • 973
    • La Crescenta
    • Jambo Backyard Smoker
      Weber Smokey Mountain (22" & 18.5")
      Portable Kitchen 360
      Portable Kitchen Grill
      Pit Barrel Cooker
      Weber "Brownie" Circa 1978 22"
      Weber Gas Grill, Silver A
      BBQ Guru ATC
      Favorite Beer: Peroni
      Favorite Sports Teams: Rams, Dodgers, Kings, UCLA Bruins

    #2
    Good observation. Does Weber have to step up their game? I have both the 22" and 18" WSM. Their good and with an ATC even better. Always worth the money. I don't have the Summit, but again heard good things about it. Pellet grills forcing them out of the market?

    Interesting view.

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    • surfdog
      Club Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 1329
      • Sunny SoCal
      • Cooking gadgets
        Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center
        Weber Summit Platinum D6
        Blue Rhino Razor
        Dyna-Glo XL Premium Dual Chamber
        Camp Chef Somerset IV along with their Artisan Pizza Oven 90
        Anova WiFi

        Thermometers
        Thermapen Mk4 - ThermaQ High Temp Kit - ThermaQ Meathead Kit - ThermaQ WiFi - ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S - ThermoWorks Signals & Billows - ThermoPop -ThermoWorks ProNeedle - ThermoWorks TimeStick Trio x2 - and a Christopher Kimball timer - NO, I do not work for ThermoWorks...I just like their products.

        Other useful bits...
        KitchenAid 7-qt Pro Line stand mixer
        A Black & Decker food processor that I can't seem to murder
        A couple of immersion blenders, one a "consumer" model & the other a "high end" Italian thing. Yes, the Italian one is a bit better, but only marginally
        Instant Pot Duo Evo Plus 8-qt + accessories like egg-bite & egg holders
        All-Clad pots & pans, along with some cast iron...everything from 7" Skookie pans to 8.5qt Dutch ovens
        Weber GBS griddle, pizza stone, and wok
        Knives range from Mercer to F. Dick to "You spent how much for one knife? One knife?!" LOL

      #3
      TripleB That’s a good point... Perhaps pellet cookers have had a bigger impact than I thought. They’re popular around here it seems, and I know several people that have them.

      I’m with you on the WSM. I think they’re brilliant...and I especially like the 22 because that extra real estate is well worth it IMO.

      That said...yeah, I think they do need to step up their game. They still ask a premium for the Summit gasser and it’s nothing like they used to be. A fine grill I’m sure...but I’m not convinced the quality is there. Their missteps with the SmokeFire only adds to my apprehension about recommending them.
      If they’re going to ask a premium, they need to deliver.

      Their kettles are still solid...and the WSM remains a good choice. But their “top of the line” (flagship) models don’t seem to live up to promise. And given what they did to the Summit gasser, and even the Summit Charcoal...I can’t help but wonder if the 22” WSM will be made cheaper...if indeed it ever returns.

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      • dwlivesay
        Club Member
        • Mar 2018
        • 9

        #4
        BBQGUYS.COM still has the 22 WSM, unless I just bought the last one they have.

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        • Panhead John
          Panhead John commented
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          It says it’s 6-8 weeks before it leaves the warehouse! The 22”…..Wonder why so long?

        • dwlivesay
          dwlivesay commented
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          Panhead, it could have said 6-8 months and I've had ordered it! Once people around me know you can cook brisket you become very popular all of a sudden (If I pay for the brisket can you cook one for my son's graduation party?) Cooking a 16 pound packer on a 22" Weber Kettle is no fun. With the 22 WSM I'm hoping I can get a little sleep on overnight cooks. I can wait the 6-8 weeks as long as I get one.

        • Panhead John
          Panhead John commented
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          I’ve got the little 14” WSM and I really like it, I’m sure you’re gonna love the 22”. It’s just me here so I don’t do any large cooks on it. But I still wish I woulda gotten the 18”, looking back on it. The 14” barely fits half a packer brisket and I’ve gotta cut ribs in half to fit. But, not that big a deal to me. Anyway, congratulations on your new smoker!
      • Dan Deter
        Club Member
        • Jun 2018
        • 584
        • Raleigh, NC
        • Weber Summit S-670
          Thermapen Mk 4

        #5
        They may just be having supply line issues. Almost all of Camp Chef's 16" cooking systems are out of stock because of that.

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        • glitchy
          Club Member
          • Jul 2019
          • 1272
          • Central IA
          • MAK 2 Star General
            Weber Summit Charcoal Grill
            w/ Big Joetisserie, SnS LP, and Vortex
            Weber Genesis II - S-345
            Weber Traveler
            Fireboard 2 Drive
            Anova Precision Sous Vide
            All the (pellet) grills I’ve loved before:
            Traeger Junior Elite^
            GMG DB
            Traeger Texas Elite
            Memphis Pro§
            Traeger Pro 575
            CampChef SmokePro STX (ugly grills need love too)
            Weber SmokeFire EX4§
            Traeger Select
            CampChef Woodwind WiFi w/SearBox^
            Weber SmokeFire EX4§

            ^ = Favorites
            § = Love/Hate Relationships

          #6
          I think the WSCG is being replaced by the Weber Summit Kamado. Outdoor cooking products are in high demand and everyone is having issues keeping up.

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          • RAGBBQ
            RAGBBQ commented
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            Yes, the Summit Kamado replaced the WSCG and the WSCGC.

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