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  • Matachi
    Former Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 32
    • Bay Area, Ca

    Best way to sear?

    Hi Guys & Gals of the Pit

    I am looking to see the best way to get a great sear on a SV cook. My gasser (Weber Genesis) doesnt seem to get hot enough to get a great crust and my cast iron pans sometimes work, but are kinda small, and they don't hold heat well to sear multiple things quickly. I don't like to use coals for it, since it seems a bit wasteful (to me) to light coals and only use for one minute.

    I have recently read about the baking steel griddle, which is a 3/8" thick chunk of steel, which would hold heat well for searing (once you heat up forever), but am also curious about using the flat side grill grates, do they get hot enough on a gas grill?

    What do you guys use and recommend? Do you think that steel is overkill? Would grill grates make a big difference?

    Thanks!



  • Breadhead
    Banned Former Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 1

    #2
    Grillgrates are great! Cast Iron is fantastic! Slow n Sear is really good. The BGE, set up properly is tremendous. The best and easiest is your charcoal starter. Bottom line... they all work really good.
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    • Breadhead
      Breadhead commented
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      Huh?🤔

    • EdF
      EdF commented
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      From Nietsche: Thus spoke the Sear Master! (It was a compliment).

    • Breadhead
      Breadhead commented
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      Thank you Mr EdF ...👍
  • Steve R.
    Club Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 1980
    • Elizabethtown, KY
    • Current line-up of cookers: Weber 22.5" Original Premium kettle w/ SnS and BBQ Guru adapter; Old Country Over and Under smoker; PBC; Weber Ranch Kettle w/ Guru adapter.

    #3
    My favorite method is the SnS, right over the coals. 2nd favorite is a grate on a full Weber chimney starter. Last weekend I had the best ribeye I've ever tasted using the SnS.

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    • jgreen
      Charter Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 2550
      • Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
      • Cookers:
        Broil King XL
        Broil King Smoke
        Weber Kettle 26
        Grilla Pellet smoker
        Capital 40 natural gas
        Napoleon Pro 22 kettle

        Thermometer:
        Maverick 733
        Thermapen (ok..4 thermapens)
        Thermo works DOT (or two)
        Fireboard (probably my favourite)
        Thermworks Smoke (or two)

        Accessories:
        SnS (original, plus and XL)
        DnG pans, 6 or 7 of these
        Vortex
        Grillgrates
        and, maybe some other toys as well

      #4
      All of the above work really well. I prefer something using charcoal. The SNS or the chimney both work well.

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      • hogdog6
        Charter Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 536
        • Liberty, Utah

        #5
        Big fan of the chimney or BGE method myself.

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        • Steve R.
          Club Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 1980
          • Elizabethtown, KY
          • Current line-up of cookers: Weber 22.5" Original Premium kettle w/ SnS and BBQ Guru adapter; Old Country Over and Under smoker; PBC; Weber Ranch Kettle w/ Guru adapter.

          #6
          The entertainment factor of the chimney method FTW!

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          • kmhfive
            Club Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 3003
            • Northern Illinois
            • Weber Kettle -- 22.5" (In-Service Date June 2015)
              Slow-n-Sear/Drip-n-Griddle/Grill Grates (In-Service Date March 2016)
              Pit Boss 820 (Retired)
              GMG Jim Bowie WiFi (In-Service Date April 2017)
              Maverick ET-733
              Fireboard
              Home-brewer

            #7
            Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_2231.JPG Views:	1 Size:	1.72 MB ID:	344773 I don't use gas, but GrillGrates really work.

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            • smiliepolarbear
              smiliepolarbear commented
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              I always thought that the heat from the chimney was too hot for a GrillGrate. It doesn't warp or melt the aluminum?

            • kmhfive
              kmhfive commented
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              I'm sure there is a "too hot", but if you are quick with the meat, you are removing heat from the grates. I've not had an issue. I guess if you put the grates on and walk away, they could get hot enough to warp.
          • Breadhead
            Banned Former Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 1

            #8
            Grillgrates just work... regardless how you get them hot! But so does Cast Iron. But there really is a sweet spot.

            There's not hot enough and there's too hot.

            The goal has to be that sweet "dark mahogany brown", not black, not light brown!

            When people that don't understand grilling say... that's a beautiful steak... you nailed it!

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            • Michael Brinton
              Club Member
              • May 2016
              • 263

              #9
              If I'm lighting coals for searing I try to plan the meal around the coals. While the steaks are in the bath, brine some zucchini, carrots or some other fast cooking vegetables. Maybe make a quick naan bread to grill. Get some corn shucked. Most grilled veg doesn't have to be piping hot when it's served. By the time the steak is rested and dried from the bath you can give it a quick sear and have the rest of the meal prepared. You won't feel as bad if you use the coals for the whole meal.

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              • fzxdoc
                Founding Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 4508
                • My toys:
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                  Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks)
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                  Weber Jumbo Joe Premium 22" (a weird little 22" kettle mutant on 22"-long legs) (donated to local battered women's shelter.)
                  Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range


                  Adrenaline BBQ Company's SnS, DnG and Large Charcoal Basket for WSCGC
                  Adrenaline BBQ Company's Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
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                  Grill Grate for SnS
                  Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
                  Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650 gasser
                  2 Grill Grate Griddles

                  Fireboard Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
                  Fireboard control unit in addition to that in the Extreme BBQ Package
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                #10
                For high volume searing you can't beat flipped Grill Grates on a gasser. You can get to 600-800°F surface temp in 10 minutes or so.

                For smaller stuff, custom Grill Grates over the SnS work beautifully. Just put the GGs over the SnS about 10 minutes into Step 1 of reverse searing (the 40 minute low and slow part) and finish them off on the GG when ready.

                Or forget the GGs and do Dave's Cold Grate Reverse Seared Steak method ( ABCBBQ Dave ) which is BBQ perfection.

                Kathryn

                P.S. The best thing about GGs is that you no longer have to fear the flareup.

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                • Jazzer
                  Club Member
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 21
                  • Kansas City
                  • Weber Summit 470
                    Mak 1 Star General
                    Thermoworks Smoke
                    Thermoworks Mk4

                  #11
                  I bought 1 section of the GGs griddle for my gasser. It works very well and I can minimize any flare ups since there are not any holes (compared to flipping over the standard GGs). Having a solid surface is also a plus.

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                  • RonB
                    Club Member
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 11437
                    • Near Richmond VA
                    • Weber Performer Deluxe
                      SNS
                      Pizza insert
                      Rotisserie
                      Smokenator 1000
                      Cookshack Smokette Elite
                      2 Thermapens
                      Chefalarm
                      Dot
                      lots of probes.
                      CyberQ

                    #12
                    Using an inverted chimney starter will reduce the amount of charcoal used - just make sure you fill it. And after you are done, you can put the charcoal in a small metal can with a lid and snuff it out. Then you can reuse it next time:

                    https://www.amazon.com/Behrens-6106-...ucket+with+lid

                    If you are grillin' on a wood deck, set the can on something heatproof.

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                    • scottranda
                      Charter Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 1561
                      • Charlotte, NC

                      #13
                      Charcoal chimney with GG for Cobb Grill

                      https://www.grillgrate.com/grillgrat...he-cobb-grill/

                      I also have a BBQ Dragon to get it done faster.

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                      • Deaf Arty
                        Club Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 171
                        • Cheyenne, WY
                        • Green Mountain Grills Daniel Boone
                          Weber Q-100 gas grill
                          Grill Grates
                          Original Weber 22" kettle (1978 model!)
                          Slow n Sear
                          Thermoworks RT600C
                          Fireboard
                          Thermapen MK4

                        #14
                        I've got an old Weber Q100 that I put 2 sections of Grill Grates on and crank it up. Seared a ribeye tonight and it was perfect. Measured the temp on the flat side at about 560. Simple and quick, even on a "miniature" gasser.

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