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    Michael's Pizza Adventures

    I was very lucky and privileged to win the Ninja 8-n-1 Woodfire Oven in the June 2025 giveaway. I chose it primarily for its pizza making capability. This evening I was finally able to use it!

    Two days ago I made my dough, a 60% hydration dough of King Arthur 00 flour, 2% salt, and 0.6% yeast. (This is a lot of yeast as I have come to learn.) I kneaded everything by hand, which actually was very easy. I am glad I didn't use the stand mixer. 00 flour is very easy to work with.

    I let the dough bulk ferment for two hours, then I divided it up into ~225 g dough balls. (The leftover baby one would be my practice for stretching.)

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    Into the fridge they went for what was supposed to be only a 24 hour cold ferment. Alas, yesterday got away from me, so they fermented for an extra day. Wow, did they rise, perhaps even over-proofed! But this is my first time doing this, so let's continue on!

    The Ninja Woodfire is larger and heavier than I anticipated, but not overly so. I got it outside (I did the burn-in a few days ago) and set it to 700 F and let it pre-heat.

    Inside, I started to stretch out the dough, which by now had been warming up to room temperature for two hours. I've tried making pizza before and this was the easiest stretch I have ever had. I was absolutely beside myself with shock. I did the technique of pushing it out, flipping, pushing it out, flipping one more time, then doing the stretch and flip the dough onto your forearm and slap it down again. It was....easy! No pull back or anything. Maybe it is the flour or the hydration or what, but it just worked.

    Look, a circle! (Ignore the slight tear.)

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    I then floured my pizza peel with some rice flour (this works far better than the semolina I had been using) and started to assemble the pizza. I put down a small layer of sauce. I used Muir Glen's crushed tomatoes, but they weren't all that crushed. I'll blend some San Marzanos next time. Next came some strips of sliced whole milk fresh mozzarella, followed by some pepperoni slices (I grew up on Pizza Hut in the '80s....I need my meat).

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    Into the oven this went. I had no trouble sliding it off the peel. That rice flour is magic. 700 F for 3 minutes. (I do wish this thing had a window.)

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    Three minutes later....

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    (Photo take before I put the basil on.) Just a hair more char than I would have liked, but this is extremely tasty. I was very happy with it. Bottom was just a bit underdone....

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    Rim was a bit more denser than I would have liked....

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    Still, this was the BEST pizza crust I have ever made! Crispy on the outside and pillowy, but not overly soft on the inside. There may be something to this high heat thing, after all. (This was also the first time I have ever used 00 flour.)

    Welp, time for pizza number two. I let the oven reheat for longer this time....a good 30 minutes. (Pizza stone temp was 750 F rather than 700 F as for the first pizza.) I also experimented with putting the pepperoni slices under the cheese.

    Three minutes later, here we are.

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    This time the bottom of the crust was better done.


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    Absolutely, delicious pizza! So fresh. I can tell you right now, I am never ordering delivery again. This is just so much more flavorful! Is it the same as a true Neapolitan pizza? Probably not, but it is a close approximation.

    I am very happy with this thing. Thank you Ninja and thank you Amazing Ribs!

    I have so much more to learn and experiment with, but I am pleased beyond measure than my first two pizzas turned out this good! (Honestly, I was expecting them to get stuck on the peel!)

    Cats liked it, too, as my wife explains:

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    #2
    Congrats on the prize and a successful bake. They do look good.

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      #3
      I'm jealous (a good jealous) you won something.

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        #4
        When your pants start to get snugger, your on the right track.

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          #5
          Now that is a fantastic ad for getting a pizza
          oven. Looks delicious Michael and congrats!

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            #6
            Dang Michael! Now I want one. Not a pizza, a Ninja. Very nice. Great photos! Enjoy yer Loot!!!

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              #7
              Looks great! I expect it will only get better from here.

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                #8
                Looks great and have you added your sausage to pizza yet?

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                • Michael_in_TX
                  Michael_in_TX commented
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                  I plan to. For this style of pizza, everything I have read is that you want to be very careful not to weigh it down with toppings (like American-style pizza).

                #9
                The amount of yeast and the expected fermentation length are linked. The longer the fermentation the less yeast necessary. Your recipe author probably went relatively heavier for the shorter suggested fermentation.

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                • Michael_in_TX
                  Michael_in_TX commented
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                  This is something I have just found utterly fascinating: amount of yeast, time, and temperature are all intertwined. Change one, and the dough will behave differently.

                  I also wonder if authors realize most people don't have gram scales, so just use a lot of yeast to one, make it foolproof -- the dough will rise! -- and also so that you can use 1/4 teaspoon to measure the yeast.

                #10
                Many of the reviews mention the small size of this oven. You really can only make a 10" pizza (the stone is 12" square). I was somewhat concerned about this, but I don't think it is an issue at all.

                A pizza of this size is perfect for one person. Also, this is my first time using fresh mozzarella on a pizza. Every thing I've read suggests that if you are doing 700 F+, this is the cheese to use as it won't separate under the intense heat.

                The drawback is that you really only have about a 15-20 minute window in which the cheese is at its best after the cook. When it cools, it's still great, but not as great.....so cooking a larger pizza for leftovers doesn't make much sense, at least with this style of pizza.

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                • Uncle Bob
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                  And "fresh" Moz has a higher moisture content so can lead to a soggier cooked dough in some circumstances. Also, it doesn't brown for that reason if that's something the cook would like for an outcome.

                #11
                ...and if others are looking at this oven, Ninja just came out (April) with their pizza-only version of this outdoor oven. It only has the pizza settings (and is the same wattage, 1760), is shorter in height, and doesn't have the pellet hopper, but unlike the Woodfire, it has a window. It's also ~$150 cheaper.

                Create an Artisan Pizzeria in your own backyard, campsite, tailgate and beyond with the Ninja Artisan Outdoor Pizza Oven. Choose from 5 pizza settings and watch your creations come to life in 3 minutes*. *12" Neapolitan pizzas cooked at 700F, Excluding preheat

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                • STEbbq
                  STEbbq commented
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                  I got a 10% coupon too when I clicked the link.

                #12
                Yeah - as Uncle Bob mentions - the amount of yeast and fermentation time are linked. I have a pizza crust recipe that calls for 1 tsp of active dry yeast, but it only needs a 2 hour rise time before making pizza. That's great if you decide at 3pm you want pizza for dinner that night.

                My sourdough pizza crusts get extended 24+ hour rise times, usually involving fermenting in the fridge for a couple of days. The problem with that is - you gotta plan ahead that you want pizza days in advance! For that reason, lately I've been making a recipe that does 5+ pizza crusts, and then freezing the balls of dough after they are done with the ferment. On pizza day, I just pull it one or two out of the freezer 2 hours before I want to bake, and let them thaw on the counter, and shape as the oven or grill heat up.

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                  #13
                  The pizza looks great, Michael. I’m glad to see you enjoying your prize.

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                    #14
                    Pizza dough and fermentation are a fun project to work on. Enjoy, look forward to following along,

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                      #15
                      Congratulations on breaking in your prize, the pizza looks delicious! šŸ•

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