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    help with bark

    not sure if this has been discussed or if im posting in appropriate place please redirect me if im wrong
    my question: how big of a factor is relative humidity when trying to create a nice bark on food
    long slow cooks im getting golden brown or even reddish colour...i feel sugar/salt content is adequate but without burning food i cant get decent dark bark
    happens ( or doesnt happen lol) on weber,electic traeger and homemade pit/stickburner

    #2
    Humidity will definitely help in bark formation, helps the seasoning in that formation. That’s why most pitmasters spritz their meat. And although there is much debate over this, I believe having a water pan helps as well.

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      #3
      I have never used a water pan and never had a problem on getting good bark.

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        #4
        i may have worded that wrong
        i cant get dark bark ...was wondering if living on lake and having too high of humidity is preventing it

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          #5
          Ultimately bark is the drying out of the surface. Smoke a brisket unwrapped until it is done. BARK.

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            #6
            Are you getting a stall? If not, you may be cooking at too high a temperature. Also, what type of rub are you using?

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            • Randomchaoz
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              for rubs i use slight variation of meathead Goldwyns memphis dust
              most cooks are done @225F
              in winter time i usually wrap at stalls cause just too cold to wait...happens on shoulders,ribs,chicken etc...

            • Steve R.
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              In that case, the answer is going to be to let it try to fight through the stall on its own for awhile. It is at that point where the bark formation happens. You could also try using butcher paper (untreated) instead of foil. It won't steam off the bark like foil tends to do.

            #7
            You know how when you try to imitate a bark, you exhale while you are trying to make the sound? Try inhaling, it sounds much more realistic.

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            • Randomchaoz
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              lol

            #8
            Also if you wrapped you might be wrapping to soon. I like to get a good bark before I wrap which is around IT 175/180.

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              #9
              I've smoked brisket in the pouring down rain almost the whole time with 100% humidity. If you wrap at the stall you ain't gonna to get bark.

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                #10
                I spritz to help form a bark. For ribs it's usually a mix of apple juice and cherry schnapps for beef it's beef stock and whiskey.

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                  #11
                  Well for the non-water pan, no spritzing guys, don't just take my word for it. He's another man's opinion on the subject,



                  Jerod is right as well, if you want dark black charred bark, just leave it on there. What I've found (since I don't normally cook on a stick burner), is the flat gets too dry if moisture isn't present. Tough enough when it is. Although dark bark certainly has some sex appeal, I'd concentrate instead on making my meat moist. But again that's my opinion, do some trial and error testing for yourself. Good luck !!!

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                    #12
                    Here’s a good dark bark and trust me the flat wasn’t no where near dry. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention it was done with a stickburner and no water pan. Click image for larger version

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                    • Troutman
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                      Yea each to his own, that is a good lookin' briskie DW. Like I said there are a ton of differing opinions on the subject, best to do what works for you....

                    • Mudkat
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                      Magazine cover worthy!

                    #13
                    Back at you my friend .....

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                    • DWCowles
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                      I don’t see a thing wrong with that brisket my friend. 👍

                    • Mudkat
                      Mudkat commented
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                      Nice!

                    #14
                    The stall is required to dry the surface and get bark. If you are smoking at around 225-250F the stall should all but be guaranteed.
                    The stall lengthens the cook so it also gives collagen time to break down, time it wouldn’t get if you cook too hot.

                    If if you want good bark as others have said you’ll have to wait most of the way through the stall before you wrap. See graph and you can tell that i waited well into the stall before I opened the cooker and wrapped (and checked again an hour later)

                    Also you’ll need a little sugar in the rub to help form the bark. Meathead discusses the importance of this in recipes on this site. Though I’ve used sustitutes and some work okay, if you’re going to cook for 10-16 hours may as well use what we know works. Click image for larger version

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                      #15
                      I get better and darker bark on my pellet grill at 275. 225 doesn't cut it.

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                      • Polarbear777
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                        Intreresting. I have the opposite case on my charcoal set ups.

                      • Troutman
                        Troutman commented
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                        Ditto, I'm cooking 275* on the pellet pooper as well

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