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When to blame the meat and when to blame yourself?

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    When to blame the meat and when to blame yourself?

    I had a cook over the weekend, a packer brisket, that was the worst brisket i've ever cooked and also the worst brisket i've ever eaten.

    My local meat place (UW Provisions) that i usually go to for brisket has a "warehouse sale" which is where i bought this brisket. it was a new brand i had not seen before: "Dunkota" i believe it was (EDIT: Demkota is more likely based on a quick google). the price was decent so i bought 2.

    i treated it like i normally do brisket. the last 3 i made have been the best i've ever made. my worst brisket i've ever made before this was more like a pot roast but certainly still edible. the first thing i noticed is that there was almost no fat cap. there was 1 small spot where it was thicker than 1/4" otherwise it was ~1/8" or less for 90% of it. i thought at the time "neat, don't need to trim". i think that was a red flag.

    the cook went fine. it got near the end and the part of the flat with no point over it felt probe tender. parts were 200-205 degrees F. i turned down the temp on my smoker to the lowest setting so it holds ~160F for a couple of hours.

    the second i pulled it out of the foil i knew it wasn't right. it was rigid. i cut into it and it was tough. the flat dried up immediately and turned DARK brown. i couldn't bite through the flat. the point was also very tough but not as dry. i swear it felt probe tender before. it's like i took it out when it hit 160F it was so tough.

    i know i must have somehow under cooked it, but even at 205 i would have expected it to at least be something i can bite through. i know the first thing people will ask: check your probes! the brisket got done around the same time as the previous ones so i doubt the probes were off by much if at all. i can't rule it out, but i'm going to say "unlikely"

    so my mind has been flip flopping between "you messed it up by not being thorough enough with the probe test and not being patient enough with cooking it" and "this was a tough old cow that was really lean and if you got it to 200+ and it still was this tough there's nothing you could have done to make it work"

    so i know it's a thing to get some old mother-in-law tough cow that won't be good. i also know i mess up. how does one make that distinction of who or what is to blame?

    one good thing came of this cook: we were supposed to have our neighbors over for brisket and they had plans so i made it anyway. this is a failure for my immediate family but not for guests and i am so happy they had to cancel/decline.

    i might try Sous vide to see if that can do anything at all. if not, chili it is...or maybe slice really thin for lunch meat hah
    Last edited by DeusDingo; November 18, 2025, 01:39 PM.

    #2
    It is the meat. I once bought a "select" brisket, by accident. It was bad.
    I know there are those who say to use cheap grades for low and slow. I disagree.
    Even choice briskets vary a lot. Of two chain groceries here, I will not buy brisket from one, based upon past experience.

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    • DeusDingo
      DeusDingo commented
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      i do really wish i would have only bought one and not 2. now i want to make that other one not so much because i want brisket but because i want to know is it also horrible?

    #3
    an additional thought: if you were me, would you contact the meat supplier and let them know your experience or just say nothing and not buy that brand anymore?

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    • yakima
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      I would just move on, unless it is a locally owned store.
      Your 2nd brisket might benefit from braising, treat it more like a pot roast.

    #4
    Might think about grinding it for burger. You can add or subtract fat as need to make your desired blend. I used to do that when Brisket was cheap.

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    • Hulagn1971
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      You read my mind.

    #5
    I see Eastern European braised brisket, which is quite yummy, on the horizon.

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      #6
      Tough death, tough meat?

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      • DeusDingo
        DeusDingo commented
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        that read like a serial killer's wikipedia article

        what would be the odds that i got that cow

      • WI Bubba
        WI Bubba commented
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        DeusDingo remember, they only get fines and notices when they get caught, not every time it happens.

      #7
      And a previous article

      DemKota Beef Ranch, an Aberdeen slaughter house, failed to meet federal humane animal handling regulations on six occasions since Oct. 2022, records show.

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        #8
        I vote for the meat. I once bought a wagyu tri tip that was absolutely beautiful to look at but was as tuff as a boot sole. I would suggest giving the other one a good 60 day wet aging. It makes a difference.

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          #9
          Most likely the meat. I've had rotisserie chickens that were tough even though they are all smoked the exact same way. Just had a chuck roast do that too. You're dealing with a natural product and there will be variations unfortunately.

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            #10
            I always blame the meat. But my ego might be more fragile than average.

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            • DeusDingo
              DeusDingo commented
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              opposite strategy, same reason in the bedroom

            #11
            I would blame the meat. Especially since your last 3 have been your best and there were no oddities in the cook other than the strange things you noted before cooking with the fat cap.

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