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Basic tips for home (indoor) cooking, add any you might have!

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    Basic tips for home (indoor) cooking, add any you might have!

    Inside the Paprika discussion, KimO and Carolyn talked about the differences between cooking indoors vs cooking outdoors. And while this is a BBQ forum, nobody does 100% of their cooking outdoors, no matter how much we might want to! For me, even most of my outdoor meals have an indoor component anyhow, meaning that I’m constantly moving in between the grill/smoker and the stove, or oven, or microwave… or sink, or sous vide, or refrigerator, or whatever.

    I started screwing up food back in the ‘70s. Over the years, what happened is, my mom wrote down some things I asked her to, and I got okay at duplicating those.

    Next, I got good at making one or two other things. Then for many years there were half a dozen or so things that I made that I liked, and kept making. That doesn’t mean that they were objectively good; that just means I liked them. Things like Ragu spaghetti sauce with added vegetables. Chili. Spanish rice. I could try recipes from the newspaper, or from cookbooks, and sort of make them happen, but half a dozen dishes can get you through a lot of years of living.

    Got married, started a family. Mrs Mosca did not, and does not, cook. But she likes the stuff that I make, so that made things pretty easy because she likes doing laundry and I hate it; an equitable division of household labor is one of the keys to a successful marriage! Bought a house. Got a grill. And eventually, with more people to feed, and different taste buds, I started trying, and screwing up, new things.

    Ah, the internet. All the answers are here, you know. And they really are. Except, ALL the answers are here, both the right ones and the wrong ones! And there is no index, no table of contents to help you sort through the 1.2 billion answers to the search, “best chicken cacciatore”. So, you kinda gotta learn some stuff. And you kinda gotta start thinking, and asking yourself questions like, “What is this going to taste like? How easy (or hard) is it going to be? Do I have the right equipment? Do I have to buy something I’m only going to use once?” And, “Do I have enough time, or should I just open a jar of Ragu and add some mushrooms and peppers and onions and a rotisserie chicken to it?” (That works, too.)

    There are simply no answers, because we are all different. Even identical twins will answer differently. But there are things you can do that will make cooking easier, and will make learning easier, and will help alleviate any apprehension you might have about learning new skills, new recipes, and new ways of doing things.

    Here are a couple-t’ree-four or more things that might make things easier for people who like good food, but are having trouble making it happen. These help. I myself learned all of them over 40 years of screwing things up, of eating mistakes, and dumping really bad mistakes down the drain and ordering pizza. (My last drain pour was a week or so ago.) Some of these are technical in nature, some are organizational, and some are conceptual. But they will all translate to any kitchen. Anyone can use them.


    1) Know your limits. If something looks like it will be a pain in the ass, will take too long, has too many ingredients, if you’re not sure it will taste good, if you’re not ready to learn something new… screw it. Without shame, with complete confidence, scroll on to something else. Eventually you’ll get there. Over time, as you get more sure of yourself, your attitude will change. But for now, know what you can do, what you can’t do, and when it’s time to stretch out, because sooner or later you’ll think, “Yeah, I can do that.” I’ll tell you what: I’m never going to bake bread. I’m never going to make my own pizza dough. I’m sure I can do it, but it’s going to be too much of a pain in the ass for me. It’s easier for me to buy bread and pizza. So, with complete confidence in myself, I think, “Next!”

    2) Mise en place. That means, before you start have everything measured and ready. You know when a recipe says “30 minutes” and it took you an hour? That’s because they started the timer after everything was laid out. While you’re rummaging through the spice rack for the cinnamon, they’re julienning the carrots. This is a big deal. Food can overcook while you’re measuring salt. Get a bunch of little plastic bowls etc for stuff, and have it all at hand before you turn on the burner.

    3) Knives, and knife skills. I am 69. I started cooking for myself when I was about 20. I didn’t take this seriously until about 10 years ago. I would have been a much better home cook much longer ago if I had. You do not need to spend hundreds of dollars on knives! But you need sharp knives, and you need to take a couple hours to learn how to use them, which is easy. It will cost you a bag of carrots and a couple onions, and you can make a salad with those. There are enough recommendations for knives (Victorinox, Mercer, Dalstrong are all good inexpensive knives, among others) and there are millions of videos. I took an afternoon julienning carrots while watching football in front of the TV. And a good knife sharpener can be had for around $20.

    4) A leave-in food probe for roasts, and an instant read thermometer for grilling. These are just as important indoors as they are outdoors! I didn’t get good at rib roasts until I reliably knew when the meat was done. AND NOBODY WILL. (You can use your leave in probe to check your oven’s accuracy once a year or so, I usually check mine around the holidays.) Cooking is both art and science. This is the science part.

    There is a lifetime more to add, and I’m just some schmoe who cooks. I am absolutely not a chef. I’d rate my food as “good enough”, with occasional “holy sh… er, holy heck, that was freakin’ AMAZING!” Among those who post here, I’m probably right smack in the middle; I am not particularly adventurous (see tip #1), but I know what I can do, I know what things are going to taste like, and if I want to stretch my boundaries I am confident in my skills and my equipment that I don’t feel like I’m wasting my time or my money, or my reputation, by doing it.

    Folks: add stuff. Every single one of us started with a skillet, a package of ground beef, and a deep breath, thinking, “Welp, here goes nothin’!” And even here, for every one of us who has figured stuff out, everywhere on the spectrum there is someone else working toward that. We can help be their shortcut.

    #2
    Don't throw water on a grease fire!!

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    • Smoker_Boy
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      And don't use flour to put out a fire. Use salt.

    #3
    When using milk to make sausage gravy, don't let it come to a boil.
    And use a flat spatula / flipper to stir it, constantly scrapping the bottom of the saucepan.
    And bring it up to temperature very slowly.

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      #4
      Buy cheap knives, put them in the dishwasher and just sharpen them again when they get dull.
      They will still last 10 or 20 years.

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      • Smoker_Boy
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        I put them point down in the section for spoons, forks, etc. I put them in the back compartment.

        This way, they aren't laying on the counter, which is an accident waiting to happen.

      • Carolyn
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        We bought a new dishwasher that has a knife rack in the top. At least now, the knives won't be hitting other things.

      • Mosca
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        Smoker_Boy I just wash them by hand when I’m done. But again, it’s not me or you right or wrong, it’s about sharp knives. We both get the point! (Hehe.)

      #5
      THANK YOU all! This really helps! Any suggestions are very welcome! I have had successes and of course failures. It has been quite the journey so far and I am sure your advice will help greatly along the way! I can already see things that I will change and add to my way of doing things!

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        #6
        My approach to cooking is this. Learn to cook, not memorizing recipes, Once you learn various ingredient’s (potatoes, vegetables, flour, rice, beans, eggs, oil, cream, acids like citrus, vinegar, salt,. ) and various techniques in using them. You will always have the ability to make good food, and be able to do it, with a sense of economy.
        Last edited by Richard Chrz; October 15, 2023, 09:25 AM.

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          #7
          Always buy pans and pots that have a vent hole in the lid.
          This prevents many boilovers and things like sauces getting too hot.

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            #8
            Mise and Place is one of the most helpful tips I learnt here. Add less seasoning than you think or recipe calls for, you can always add more.
            A friend told me its impossible removing salt grains from fries using a tweezer ;-)

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              #9
              Watch lots of Jacques Pèpin videos. They are short, and the dishes are easy, and they use the principles I outlined above: they are within anyone’s capability, he has everything ready, his knives are sharp, and he keeps an eye on the temperature of things that need it.

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              • Smoker_Boy
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                Rachael Ray is better looking.

              • Mosca
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                She is unfairly maligned, IMO. But Ree Drummond’s videos are even better!

              • Reds Fan 5
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                I watched a lot of Pepin’s videos during COVID and they transformed my cooking. I also recommend Kenji’s videos. Focus on the techniques, not the recipes.

              #10
              Start with what you know. Build from that.

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                #11
                Don't do live fire Dutch oven cooking on the kitchen floor.

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                • Finster
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                  Fun smasher

                #12
                My biggest issue is meal planning. I always think of my Aunt that I lived next door to. She was a housewife, and had every week planned out. She had meals on the table when my uncle got home from work, and she made the best fried chicken and bread pudding on the planet.

                I wasn't taught how to cook, so I had to learn over time by ruining things and tossing them or just eating really bad food. When I was about to get married, my brother said, "You don't know how to cook?!" It wasn't an actual question, more of an incredulous exclamation. He showed me how to cut up a chicken and pan fry it. Well, one day, he called me and told me to take a chicken out the fridge, cut it up and cook it for when he got home. So, I tried. My sister-in-law was eating and said, "Interesting, I have never had both white meat and dark meat on the same piece." We all had a good laugh. At least my brother tried to help me out. I can now cut up a chicken.

                I still struggle with some old myths regarding temperatures (Thanks, Dad), but I bought a Thermapen and a DOT Probe alarm (best thing I have purchased) and am learning to trust the numbers, which this forum helped me with. I am finally cooking chicken with more consistent results that aren't overcooked.

                Mise en place is a big one too, that goes with planning.

                Great thread Mosca Thanks for thinking about us.

                I can only say, "Get a thermometer and trust the numbers."

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                • Mosca
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                  I still don’t meal plan, and I should. But I don’t live any of my life that way, I never have. Some people take a map and plot their course; I look at where I am and decide where I want to go. Gyroscopic navigation. It’s coming back to bite me, as now in retirement I try to maximize value and minimize waste.

                #13
                I have to add that I can destroy an entire kitchen making scrambled eggs.
                Last edited by Carolyn; October 16, 2023, 06:05 PM. Reason: Ttypos, I hate them.😆

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                • SheilaAnn
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                  I love this!

                • KimO
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                  At the risk of sounding like my 16 year old granddaughter, ' i can so totally relate...'!

                • Alan Brice
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                  I can contain the fallout to the counter next to the sink n the cooktop.Then I retire in front of my puter to eat and entertain myself. Yes! Great thread.

                #14
                I’d add an additional note on YouTube. It can be a fantastic resource for showing you how to do certain techniques or work through a hard part in a recipe where the text is not clear. There is no shortage of videos to learn from and improve your skills and confidence.

                My tip is though, find someone that you like to watch and cooks things your family likes to eat. Not all personalities cook food that might appeal and some may be irritating. The best folks on YT though, truely inspire.


                Sam the Cooking Guy is pretty popular around here.



                As is Chef Jean Pierre.

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                • Carolyn
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                  I like Sam's backyard set-up.

                  I have a couple of YouTube subscriptions by home cooks. One is an Italian grandmother who gave me a great meatball lesson. The other channel gave me an enchilada lesson. I followed the enchilada recipe, and they were better than anything I ever ate in a restaurant. It was new to me, so I was really happy about that.
                  Last edited by Carolyn; October 15, 2023, 11:53 AM.

                • Smoker_Boy
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                  This is why I watch Rachael Ray.
                  Basic, tasty food that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

                  Well... one reason I watch Rachael. ♥

                #15
                I would add: know your audience. In other words, be prepared to make adjustments based on who will be eating what is cooked. Do they like restrained or intense spice levels? Do they go for heat? Do they have preferences different from yours on finished doneness of meat? Are there things they don't eat? For example, always provide Brussels sprouts for CaptainMike and always put dark red kidney beans in chili for Panhead John.

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                • Mosca
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                  Oh yes! I love intense heat and medium rare beef. But nobody cares what I like, they care what they like. I’m feeding people, and I want happy guests. I’m not here to change their taste, I’m here to make them smile. There is no winning the flavor game.

                • CaptainMike
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                  If it doesn't have Brussels sprouts, can we really call it chili?

                • jfmorris
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                  Good point! I learned the hard way that when my wife and daughters are eating, I gotta cut the cayenne and chipotle in adobe in any recipe I am making in half! I had a huge dutch oven of Texas red (chili) that the women in the house couldn't eat without mixing in generous amounts of sour cream. You can always ADD heat at the table, with hot sauce, but you can't take it away...

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