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What do you do when you're at a communal barbecue and everyone else is doing it wrong?

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    What do you do when you're at a communal barbecue and everyone else is doing it wrong?

    Yesterday I went to a buddy's coffee shop to celebrate his release from hotel jail. He had been at a bar one night at the same time as someone who had contact with someone who had the virus, so his health code turned red and the authorities arrived to escort him to a hotel for 7 days quarantine (at his expense, of course). When I got there the fire was already going and people were cooking food. This wasn't a traditional grill, this was a kind of big bowl on legs with a crosshatch grill laid across it. Imagine a big Weber kettle with no top. Enough room for 8 people to crowd around and cook different foods and warm up because it was quite a chilly day.

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    So you can see the variety of foods being cooked. The beef, Chinese shaokao skewers, a lamb chop and some pans with tofu and noodles & cabbage. I wasn't cooking any of them, I didn't bring any meat. Nobody bothered to tell me to bring anything, otherwise I would have. The first item is the beef in the middle. One fellow from Lithuania had gotten the meat shipped in special from his ex-girlfriend in Inner Mongolia. He was very proud of the beef. Another fellow from France remarked this was the perfect sort of meat to make beef bourguignon. I privately agreed, this was stew meat, the kind that will not tolerate being cooked with direct heat. It needs slow cooking under cover and some smoke, too.

    The fire was burning low, so someone opened the hatch to throw some more wood on. The wood was from broken up furniture! It had stain or varnish on it. So here is all this food being cooked on treated wood. Someone else noticed and said something about it, but that was all the wood they had. The alternative was letting the fire go out and the fun stop.

    The Frenchman had some lamb chops, which he was cooking on a separate grill. This one was fueled by charcoal, thankfully. But he was using direct heat as well. This grill was a box grill. I don't have a photo but you can imagine a box on legs with a thin crosshatch wire grate. It's what BBQ used to look like in America in the 1950s. Needless to say this wasn't the right way to cook lamb chops, particularly the thick ones he had.

    The beef, predictably, came out tough and inedible. The man was disappointed after the big fuss he had made over his special meat from Mongolia. The lamb was pretty tough, too. It could be eaten with difficulty, but wasn't the luxurious dripping-with-fat lamb I know I could have made. Plus, someone had seasoned it with hot spicy powder, which made it unpleasantly spicy. And all the food cooked on that big bonfire had that nasty wood smoke around it.

    I'm already known as "the BBQ guy" but nobody really asked my advice. I was just asked how to brown onions, so I improvised a pan from some aluminum foil and got the job done. Now that I've told my story, what would you have done?

    1. Just watch that man ruin his prized beef? Or tell him how to cook it, or even just take it over?

    2. Even if I did offer advice...what could we have done, actually? There was no cover for that grill and no way of slow cooking that I could see. Is there some trick that people do when this happens?

    3. The lamb...how could it have been saved?

    4. The treated wood on the fire - what would you have done? "Stop having fun everyone! I'm shutting this cook down by shouting shaming words about toxic smoke!" It certainly wouldn't have made me popular. I suppose the thing to do would have been to let the wood burn down a while before putting food on. But...I really, really didn't want to be Captain Bringdown. I especially didn't want to be The Expert That Nobody Asked For.

    5. Most importantly, how could I have done all this without being the BBQ bully who tells people how to cook their own meat? This was a social event, not a judging competition. Everyone just brought something to cook. If it came out suboptimal who cares? Cooking food over an open fire is literally the oldest form of cooking known to mankind. Anyone can do it. I felt bad about the beef which I knew was destined to be ruined, but I kept my mouth shut. The only food that came out well was the shaokao skewers, which were designed to be cooked hot and fast.

    #2
    Excuse yourself and go get takeaways.

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    • DaveD
      DaveD commented
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      This right here. Smile and nod, find a quick off ramp, and bail.

    • smokin fool
      smokin fool commented
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      Have to go, the sitter just called the young ones fell ill!
      Your young ones 26 years old....
      She'll always be a baby to me.

      Let the wife handle it, then she's the bad guy.

    • Lost in China
      Lost in China commented
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      Leave? Not only was my buddy celebrating release from hotel jail, but it was a great party. We went on for hours after the food was gone. It was a great time all around, no way leaving was the correct move.

    #3
    Tough call, there...


    Reckon I'd'a had'ta walk on...

    Personal reasons, an all that...
    Last edited by Mr. Bones; February 6, 2022, 01:26 AM. Reason: '

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      #4
      Been there. If they don't ask, I let the disappointment set in. Then about a week later, invite them over and have a proper cookout yourself. After seeing what you do, they will be better cooks, and also probably turn to you for help in the future. The beef, if asked for help would have gone into a foil pouch with some kind of liquid, maybe wine and some aerobatics then set out on the cooler rim of the grill to braise. This would have shielded it from the varnis smoke as well as allowed it to braise and cook to tender. For the lamb, split the chops to make thinner. Marinade shortly in some balsamic, fresh rosemary, garlic, oil, and red wine. Salt and pepper then Baste with the marinade a few times and grill over the high heat of the box grill until dark on the outside, but rare on the inside. The bad wood...Cook anything on that grill sealed in foil as the btus are fine, its the smoke to stay away from. Just the way I would do it all, maybe its right, maybe its wrong.
      Last edited by texastweeter; February 6, 2022, 01:28 AM.

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      • Troutman
        Troutman commented
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        Dang Tweeter, that's close to being brilliant advice !!!

      • texastweeter
        texastweeter commented
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        Troutman even a blind hog finds an acorn occasionally.

      • Troutman
        Troutman commented
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        Oh you're talking about those Iberico hogs again. Good stuff !!

      #5
      My behavior depends on the answers to two questions. The first is, "Did they ask you?" If yes, you can make suggestions. If no, the second question is, "Are you ever going to see these people again?" If no, you don't really care what they think so keep your mouth closed. If yes, you really care what they think so keep your mouth closed.

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      • Henrik
        Henrik commented
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        I like this. Basically hanging back, not interfering. If you get asked, that's another thing, then people (usually) want your advice. Even so, this seems like 100% failure on all ends. Hard to rescue.

      • Mr. Bones
        Mr. Bones commented
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        Keepin ones mandibles from auto-actuating, an uttering vocablic, syllabic utterances, can be a struggle, an a bane, at many times, sir...

      #6
      I have to agree with others. Sometimes the best thing to do is just say nothing.

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      • Mr. Bones
        Mr. Bones commented
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        Most times, I have found....sayin nuthin, in retrospect, was summa th best things I never said...

      #7
      I also agree that mouth closed was the best solution.

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        #8
        As someone who has NOT kept his mouth shut in too many situations like this, I think you took the right approach. IF ASKED, tell them what to do right. I like texastweeter 's idea of wrapping some of the meat in foil - wouldn't have been grilled as much as braised, but likely would have been tender in a fairly short cooking time. More tender than it turned out to be anyway, and less toxic smoke.

        I think in a similar situation, I would let folks have their fun, avoid eating the meat I knew to be contaminated with toxic smoke, and pick up some take out on the way home...

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        • Mr. Bones
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          Yup, it's been decades since I was ever excited bout gittin me some Varnish Smoked BBQ, Brother!

        #9
        The safety concern was brought up and dismissed, I would not eat from that grill. I would also keep quiet unless asked. But, if these were my friends…….it would turn into a competition 😁😂 as we are all very outspoken when together
        Last edited by smokenoob; February 6, 2022, 08:40 AM.

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          #10
          We did a job for some Army helicopter crews in the middle east that greatly improved their quality of life. As thanks they invited us to a BBQ. Pilots at that time had access to luxuries like good meat and maybe even some questionably legal alcohol. Anyway, we all go to the hanger and they have these massive grills they've made and they have piles of pallets, most of them treated wood. We tried to tell them you shouldn't use that for the firepit, let alone cooking, but they weren't interested. So then we told them we had another urgent job to prep for and wished them well. They did give us some raw meat to go which we cooked ourselves later.

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          • Mr. Bones
            Mr. Bones commented
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            Wisely Played, btdt AFBrother

          #11
          Unless asked I would not offer any opinion or "assistance".

          If I knew with no doubt they were using a type of toxic burning wood I would have to say something probably off to the side but would not partake if they continued. I would not want anyone getting sick.

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            #12
            I’m understanding this situation as a group of people I would be familiar with. I would think if I approached it as a question to understand and not a statement to point out fault I introduce empathy and conversation. It’s tricky since it can come across as patronizing if the folks consider me "the guy" and I’m asking everyone the same kind of question. The wood I see as a safety matter if done repeatedly and would talk to the person separately at a later time and not in the moment. Saying nothing is a safe bet. I typically take the risk to open dialog which is why I now understand why I don’t get invited to many gatherings…. 😀

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              #13
              The only thing you can do is be as polite as possible. Grab some of the least worst food and choke it down and then when nobody is looking, cringe.

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                #14
                Your BBQ stories are always very interesting. You know the old saying, "When in China, Keep your mouth shut."

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                  #15
                  I kind of disagree with most f the comments. I would have strongly suggested that no one eat the food cooked over treated wood. Especially if I considered them good friends. Then again, my filter doesn’t work so well anymore, it tends to weaken with age. It is kind of amazing that friends keep inviting me to gatherings lol. I guess they are used to me.

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                  • klflowers
                    klflowers commented
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                    ComfortablyNumb I saw that too. I probably would have been a little more forceful with my objections. They probably would have asked me to leave lol

                  • Mr. Bones
                    Mr. Bones commented
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                    Always keep a chair saved fer ya here, at any my Gatherins, Brother!
                    Last edited by Mr. Bones; February 6, 2022, 02:10 PM. Reason: -l

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