God im gonna end up with more accessories for my kettle than my wife has...for anything!
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John "J R"
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Smokin' Hound Que
Minnesota/ United States of America
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Grills/Smokers/Fryers
Big Green Egg (Large) X3
Blackstone 36" Outdoor Griddle 4-Burner
Burch Barrel V-1
Karubeque C-60
Kamado Joe Jr. (Black)
Lodge L410 Hibachi
Pit Barrel Cooker
Pit Barrel Cooker 2.0
Pit Barrel PBX
R&V Works FF2-R-ST 4-Gallon Fryer
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Thermometers
FireBoard (Base Package)
Thermoworks ThermaPen (Red)
Thermoworks MK4 (Orange)
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Accessories
Big Green Egg Plate Setter
Benzomatic TS4000 Torch X 2
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Bayou Classic 44 qt Stainless Stock Pot
Bayou Classic 35K BTU Burner
Digi Q DX2 (Medium Pit Viper Fan)
Dragon VT 2-23 C Torch
Eggspander Kit X2
Field Skillet No. 8,10,12
Finex Cat Iron Line
FireBoard Drive
Lots and Lots of Griswold Cast Iron
Grill Grates
Joule Water Circulator
KBQ Fire Grate
Kick Ash Basket (KAB) X4
Lots of Lodge Cast Iron
Husky 6 Drawer BBQ Equipment Cabinet
Large Vortex
Marlin 1894 .44 Magnum
Marquette Castings No. 13 (First Run)
Smithey No. 12
Smokeware Chimney Cap X 3
Stargazer No.10, 12
Tool Wizard BBQ Tongs
Univex Duro 10" Meat Slicer
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FOGO Priemium Lump Charcoal
Kingsford Blue and White
B&B Charcoal
Apple, Cherry & Oak Log splits for the C-60
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Buck 119 Special
Cuda 7' Fillet Knife
Dexter 12" Brisket Sword
Global
Shun
Wusthof
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Lone Star Grillz 24 X 48 Offset
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- Huntington Beach, Ca. Surf City USA.
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Equipment
Primo Oval xl
Slow n Sear (two)
Drip n Griddle
22" Weber Kettle
26" Weber Kettle one touch
Blackstone 36†Pro Series
Sous vide machine
Kitchen Aid
Meat grinder
sausage stuffer
5 Crock Pots
Akootrimonts
Two chimneys (was 3 but rivets finally popped, down to 1)
cast iron pans,
Dutch ovens
Signals 4 probe, thermapens, chef alarms, Dots, thermapop and maverick T-732, RTC-600, pro needle and various pocket instareads.
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- Jul 2014
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
Troutman , did you sear the chicken over the Vortex at the end of the cook?
I tried your method on my WSCGC with the med size Vortex. One hour cook with Fireboard probe on grate periphery (where the chicken was cooking) reading 350-380°F the whole time; vents wide open; KBB.
Legs came out great. Thigh skin was still flabby. Pulled at 180°-185°F. Juicy legs and thighs.
Turned the thighs after 30 min which was probably a no-no. Dave Parrish does not turn thighs in his SnS chicken video because he says the juices drip back into the skin when flipped.
Next time maybe I'll use Kingsford Professional instead of KBB. The WSCGC is a bigger beast than a 22" Performer and might need more juice, fuelwise. Just a guess.
I'm loving playing with the Vortex, though. Thanks for the inspiration!
Kathryn
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I assume you dry brine uncovered in the fridge overnight (perhaps even with a little baking powder), then make pockets between the meat and skin and rub in some veggie oil? Those temps should have been adequate.
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I’ve been using the foil to direct all air to the vortex and I can get into the 475 range on the 22 standard.
Did a batch of wings tonight after a baking powder and salt dry brine and everyone assumed I fried them.
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- the LOU
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Cookers:
22" Blackstone Griddle, with stand & hood
CharGriller Portable Firebox - so modified you'll BLOL
Kitchenaid #810 Charcoal Grill - highly modified
Weber BI-code Black Performer w/Igniter
Weber DE-code Red Limited - 'Lucille'
Accessories:
Ancient heavy CI Propane Turkey Fryer, for lighting chimneys
BBQ Dragon kettle shelves - 2
Fyre Dragon Kettle Drippin' Ring, Burnin' Cone & Drippin' Pan - 2 sets
Fyre Dragon Kettle Ribbin' Ring
Fyre Dragon Kettle 2-Zone Smokin' Sheet
OneGrill Rotisserie for the Kitchenaid
Smokenator
Smoking Tubes: 2x12" & 1x6"
SnS
Weber Gourmet Grill w/Griddle, Pizza Stone & Wok
My Helpers:
Anova 900W Sous Vide Cooker w/Radios
Instant Pot 6Q Duo
Nesco Tabletop Roaster
& the PIT!
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Charter Member
- Oct 2014
- 2831
- Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
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Cookers:
Broil King XL
Broil King Smoke
Weber Kettle 26
Grilla Pellet smoker
Capital 40 natural gas
Napoleon Pro 22 kettle
Thermometer:
Maverick 733
Thermapen (ok..4 thermapens)
Thermo works DOT (or two)
Fireboard (probably my favourite)
Thermworks Smoke (or two)
Accessories:
SnS (original, plus and XL)
DnG pans, 6 or 7 of these
Vortex
Grillgrates
and, maybe some other toys as well
The vortex is great for chicken, and I think it is even better in the smaller kettle. As long as you can fit enough chicken for your crew.
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
- Jul 2014
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
I used the foil-around-the-Vortex method too, Polarbear777 .
EdF , I did the dry brine with baking powder mixed with rub on the skin for 8 hours. I put straight rub on the muscle under the skin like I always do with chicken.
Troutman , thanks for your input. I didn't think I should have to sear the skin.
This second time around (yesterday evening) I changed up two things
1. Lighting method: Used half chimney of lit coals for a starter instead of Weber cubes.- First cook: KBB; Ave temp range: 350-380°F. Upper and lower vents wide open from start to finish. I figured that since it looked sort of like a chimney I'd light it like one and put a few Weber paraffin cubes underneath, stacking the coals so I had a bit of a line of sight to them and lit them. It took a long blast from my BBQ Dragon to finally get the coals going--30 minutes or more until I could load the chicken.
- Second Cook: Kingsford Professional; Ave temp range: 400-480°F. Upper and lower vents wide open throughout the cook. Poured half a chimney of lit coals in the Vortex then topped it off with unlit coals. No need to use the BBQ Dragon. Was hot and ready to load with chicken within 15 minutes.
2. Used Kingsford Professional rather than KBB.
So I learned that making those two changes gave me the temp I wanted, crisper chicken skin without turning the chicken, and a 1 hour cook.
FWIW: here is the lighting method recommended in the Vortex instruction brochure:
Kathryn
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