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Somebody's Doing Something....THE FINALE

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    Somebody's Doing Something....THE FINALE

    Well approximately 72 days ago I began the journey of aging and cooking a Grass Fed, Grass Finished Brisket I sourced at my local grocer...

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    The Disclaimer

    First before I report on the results, I want all to know that this is what I call culinary experimentation. It's not meant to be a suggestion that anyone necessarily do this. I share it because I think sometimes we need get outside of our cozy cooking bubble and explore new ways of preparing and thus improving how we cook meats. If you take something away from this, great. If it's just out of curiosity that you read this then that's fine too.

    What I'm trying to say is for all the naysayers, boo birds, doubters and haters, if this isn't your thing then move on to the next post. I'm sure there are tons of normal brisket cooks coming your way.

    The Brisket

    The brisket itself, as you can see, is a new product line offered at our local HEB grocers. They have teamed with local Texas ranchers and are offering true grass fed, grass finished beef. Although I'm not that familiar with the product, some of the steaks I've had didn't have the same flavor profile I'm used to in grain finished but thought this unique enough to give it a try.

    One thing I did notice was the trimming was very good, it had a consistent thickness and the meat itself had a dark, almost mahogany color. I could have smoked it as normal and been done with it one way or the other. Insead I decided it was time to use some alternative techniques to get it as tender as possible.

    The Dry Age

    A few months back I also did some experimenting with dry aging a prime brisket. I was doubtful that the results would be anything near what they were in similar attempts by some YouTubers. Much to my surprise it turned out pretty spectacular. So given that, I figured this brisket would be a prime candidate for aging. I've never cooked a grass fed brisket and figured it could use some help it breaking down the protein fibers prior to cooking. So I Umai bagged it and put it in my frig for 60 days.

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    So day 60 came and I pulled it and weighed it. I also cut off the hard pellicle crust that forms during the dry age process.

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    Note that I lost 30% of its volume in weight due to the dry aging process. Meat that was around $5.50/lb now became worth $8/lb. One of the down sides to dry aging, you lose a lot of product to moisture evaporation. What you gain is concentrated depth of flavor and the beginnings of protein breakdown due to the natural enzymes found within the meat itself.

    The Cook

    Now that I've got it aged, it's time to cook it. Thinking outside the box once again, I decided this was a perfect candidate for QVQ cooking. My wife really prefers rare beef and I find that when I make well done smoked brisket, regardless of how good it is, she's just not a big fan. Plus I wanted to take the tenderness as far as I could.

    So after a good trim and seasoning, I smoked it at 275* with some oak chunks until the internal temperature reached somewhere in the 120* range, or rare. I bagged it and put it into a sous vide bath at 130* for the next 72 hours.

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    The Results

    Well it was a very interesting outcome, in some ways I achieved what I set out to achieve but in terms of the product itself it was a bloody disaster. After the 72 hour bath, I ice bathed it and stuck it in my refrigerator for the weekend final smoke and finale. The weekend came and I planned to cook it for a big meal on Sunday.

    All seemed well, I pulled it when it got up to about 125* in the thinnest part, let it rest for about 20 minutes then carved. Much to my dismay, and what I could not see from the exterior, the entire brisket was simply fat, maybe 60% fat. The normal fat that renders did so, but most of what was left was the inedible, off putting deckle fat type.

    Here are the pictures, I just went ahead and carved it all. It sort of had the appearance of pork belly bacon more than that of brisket. The medium rare finish was spot on. When the fat was cut away, the actual meat itself was very beefy (as expected from dry aging) as well as very tender. What little we salvaged was really very good. The amount we threw away dang near made me sick.

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    I roughly figured my overall yield was about 3# of meat, or about a 75% lose to processing, cooking and inedible portion. So at the end of the day I ended up with a $21.80/lb brisket meal.

    The takeaway on the positive side was this process. Although some would consider ridiculously long, the combination of aging and QVQ really does work. I'm thinking about trying this with some chuck or other cuts that would benefit from this type of aging/cooking.

    The obvious negative is having been stuck with a poor piece of meat. Since I'm not a big grass finished beef fan anyway, I'm probably not going to buy this product ever again. Their wagyu and prime briskets are way better and in the case of prime, actually much cheaper. If any of my Texas brothers have cooked one of these, I'd like to hear your take on it.

    Sometimes you bite the bear....sometimes the bear bites you !!!

    Troutman, poster of things good AND bad, is out !!!



    #2
    Wow! What a long road to find that you had a horrible piece of meat.... so sorry to hear that, but the process sounds interesting at least!

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    • Troutman
      Troutman commented
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      I know, results withstanding, it was a horrible piece of meat. I'm tempted to show these pictures to the store manager but he probably wouldn't do much about it.

    #3
    Thanks for taking the time to do this and sharing the results. That took a lot of patience.

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    • Troutman
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      Not so much patience. You just go about your normal cooking habits and forget about it. I dry age all the time, I've got some primal or piece of meat in an Umai bag almost continuously.

    #4
    What a bummer with the quality end of things with the meat. I have never tried it & don’t know if I will. If I do, I might try the butter encased aging. I was intrigued by less moisture loss & less bummer meat loss. Have you considered it, minus the grass fished thing?

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    • Troutman
      Troutman commented
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      I've seen the butter thing before. I thought I saw a YouTube video where someone compared the two and the dry aging was still a lot better. I think the moisture loss and thus the concentration of flavor is what wins in the end.

      But hey, is this a perfect FireMan challenge. Come on, take one for the team !!!

    #5
    So now we have "The rest of the story"
    I am kind of tempted by this for the possible great flavor result. But I'm not a fan of a lot of fat. I am also not sufficiently knowledgeable on grass fed/finished beef vs grain so I will wait until others chime in.
    Do you think just smoking it would have made a difference or was it just that particular piece of meat.
    Thank you the the post Troutman

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    • Troutman
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      It was a piss poor piece of fatty meat. If you look closely, most of the fat was that hard deckle type, off putting in flavor and not very appealing. And I like fat with my meat, just not meat with my fat.

      The technique is sound; however, and I'm thinking seriously about doing a chuck roast next.

    #6
    that's a poopy situation but at least you were able to claim results. thanks for doing all the experimenting and results posting. i don't have the time of fridge space for stuff like this but i'm storing it away in my mental index for later.

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      #7
      A pity but we all learned from your experiment and I’m sure it going to be attempted by a lot of us following this thread.

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        #8
        Now, I am coming at this without the problem of a wife who only likes rare beef, but while I have an Anova, my issue with doing QVQ or SVQ with a big hunk of beef, or even a Boston butt, is that it is mostly done at low temperatures where the fat doesn't seem to render. One thing I love about a Boston butt that I pull off the smoker at 200+ degrees is that all the fat is rendered, and it pulls and mixes up so easily. I've honestly been afraid to even mess with doing SVQ or QVQ on anything beyond a steak, as I don't want to deal with huge amounts of fat in the cooked meat, which is what we see in this brisket experiment. I have to wonder if it would have shriveled to nothing if you had smoked it for 16 hours!

        I don't think I have used Anova in more than a year, and it was last used to do some USDA prime NY strips on a winter day when I knew I was not going to go outside to grill, but instead finish the steaks in a cast iron skillet on the stove. And while they were good, the wife told me she liked the ones I do entirely on the grill better. I probably need to pull Anova out of the pantry and try to do more with it, and expand my horizons.

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          #9
          I'm not a fan of grass finished beef. We ate quite a bit of it growing up. If you like the gamey flavor of true wild venison, the kind that has lived by browsing for its food, not those that drop by a game feeder 3 times a day, then you might enjoy grass finished beef. Troutman thank you for another incredible write up. Your attention to detail saves me a lot of trial and error time. Like so many of you told me in the beginning, some times it's the brisket's fault.

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          #10
          An absolutely fascinating experiment and write up, thanks. I'd encourage you to have that discussion with your local meat manager just to hear if this is a common expectation for grass finished brisket. Is it the feeding or is it the breed of steer (?) that would be of interest in determining if that's common. I suspect too that the HEB availability of grass finished is more a Central Market thing. Here in the semi-boonies it's not common in my observation at the Plus market we frequent. I could probably order it as they are very accommodating, just saying it must not be in very much demand in our little slice of Texas.

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          • texastweeter
            texastweeter commented
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            the HEB plus in Gruene carry's it.

          #11
          Thanx for doin' the work.

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            #12
            Great write up and thanks for sharing the experiment. Stinks about the poor cut of beef.

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              #13
              Since it looked like pork belly, maybe you should have fried up the slices like bacon? Maybe could have salvaged some that way?

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                #14
                Grass fed and finished beef does not have the level of intramuscular fat that corn fed beef does. It usually clumps up in large veins as you saw. So much so that MIST (used to be all) grass fed/finishef beef is not graded due to the fact that it would score lower. It also develops a somewhat liver like flavor occasionally. I myself prefer corn fed beef, USDA Prime.

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                  #15
                  My experience with grass-fed is that it tends to be lean. I'm surprised at all the fat in your brisket. I have a college buddy who runs a grass-fed beef operation and, although his tend to run small, none of the briskets I've gotten from him have been fatty. I buy local too and it tends to run lean. It probably varies with location (quality of grass) and time to market (age of the cow/steer).

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