After years of experimenting with salting techniques and rubs for strip steaks (1.5 inches thick), I finally decided to turn to the experts for guidance. Do I dry brine (I.e., salt in advance) and if I do, do I eliminate the rub to avoid over salting? Do I apply a steak rub instead of dry brining and if so, when and how much? There is a lot of conflicting advice out there....Help!!
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
To Rub or not to Rub?
Collapse
X
-
Well, My Good Sir, I'll toss in my ¢2, an won't even bill yer card, bein's how yer family, up in here...
Strips are arguably still my favourite steak, historically, which entails a handfulla decades, or so of preference trend....
Matter of fact, they's on sale, $5.99 Choice, hereabouts, Family Pack...
Oops, I jus referenced above, an realized ya were solicitin advice from 'Th Experts', so never mind me...
They'll be along, shortly, I'd haveta reckon, if I'm any kinda judge of such things...
- Likes 8
-
Won’t tell you how to eat yer steak, just won’t. That’s yer business. I don’t use any rub or sauce on a steak, unless I’ve got some mushrooms in some oil or onions in butter, lots of it. Practically all of my rubs are made, so there is no salt in any of them for anything. Cuz I put them on just before the cook. The salt on the other hand, with a steak, can work over night, I usually do 4 hrs before or 45 or so min. I keep it simple. Simply salt & pepper on a steak, oh & the butter. My two cent & Bonsey’s two make you not a rich man. Eat good & have fun.
- Likes 5
Comment
-
Between you and Mr. Bones I come up with 3 cents. Wuh? How did that work?
- 3 likes
-
Sry, Brother HouseHomey ,reckon I owe ya a penny...
-
- 1 like
-
Club Member
- Jun 2019
- 1559
- Bobcaygeon, Ontario
-
My gear:
22 Weber Kettle
Napoleon PRO Charcoal Kettle Grill
Broil King Keg
Traeger Pro 34
Napoleon Prestige Pro 500
Pit Barrel Cooker
Blackstone Range Combo Griddle
As with most things, and not just food, taste is very personal and subjective. Whatever works for you is right! My preference for steaks is to dry brine, no rub, just some pepper. I really never use store bought rubs on anything, and if I do, I try to make sure that it contains no salt.
- Likes 3
Comment
-
Club Member
- May 2016
- 5669
- Huntington Beach, Ca. Surf City USA.
-
Equipment
Primo Oval xl
Slow n Sear (two)
Drip n Griddle
22" Weber Kettle
26" Weber Kettle one touch
Blackstone 36†Pro Series
Sous vide machine
Kitchen Aid
Meat grinder
sausage stuffer
5 Crock Pots
Akootrimonts
Two chimneys (was 3 but rivets finally popped, down to 1)
cast iron pans,
Dutch ovens
Signals 4 probe, thermapens, chef alarms, Dots, thermapop and maverick T-732, RTC-600, pro needle and various pocket instareads.
The help and preferences
1 extra fridge and a deep chest freezer in the garage
KBB
FOGO
A 9 year old princess foster child
Patience and old patio furniture
"Baby Girl" The cat
Erik S.
Whatever makes your boat float.
But since you asked. I Salt the S@&$ out of mine and slap it on. I rarely use rub on a steak unless it’s for tacos or something.
a little salt in a rub is necessary IMHO. I say I don’t add salt to my rubs but I always add a little.
Some dry brine time won’t hurt.
- Likes 1
Comment
-
My .02 (you should have enough in your piggy bank to buy some nice steaks to experiment with by the time this thread is done lol) is to dry brine the night before if possible, then sprinkle liberally with a seasoning (hesitate to call it a rub, because in my mind it’s not; more on this below) like Chicago or Montreal Steak Seasoning just before I kick off the coals.
The trick, in my mind anyway, with this is the same trick much of grilling and smoking - time. When you dry brine, if you give it enough time, remember what the salt is doing - traveling INTO and all through the meat. Getting it all through the meat dilutes the TASTE of that salt... if you don’t go heinously overboard with the salt when dry brining, you can’t even taste it in the meat.
On the other hand, the short amount of time the steak seasoning sits ON (key word there, ON, not IN) the meat doesn’t give any salt that may be in the seasoning time to absorb and dilute, so you do get SOME salty flavor from that... which is good, because YUM! 👍
Grill on my friend, grill on!!😃🙌
- Likes 3
Comment
-
Administrator
- May 2014
- 20098
- Clare, Michigan area
-
Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue
Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
- PBC
- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Slow 'N Sear Master Kettle (cart-mounted)
- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Traeger Flatrock Griddle
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold & Lime
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red - big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
About me
Real name: Aaron
Location: Farwell, Michigan - near Clare (dead center of lower peninsula).
Occupation:- Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) at MyMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.
I like to dry brine, whether with just salt or with a salted steak seasoning/rub as the dry brine. Sometimes it's just an hour, sometimes it's the morning of the cook. Every once in a while I don't have time to dry brine, and they turn out fine then too
- Likes 2
Comment
-
So long as we're eating steak, right?
- 3 likes
-
HouseHomey Yes, that was the question. Biskets, always 24hrs-ish, or more. Butts, at least the night before. For me.
-
Charter Member
- Oct 2014
- 2852
- Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
-
Cookers:
Broil King XL
Broil King Smoke
Weber Kettle 26
Grilla Pellet smoker
Capital 40 natural gas
Napoleon Pro 22 kettle
Thermometer:
Maverick 733
Thermapen (ok..4 thermapens)
Thermo works DOT (or two)
Fireboard (probably my favourite)
Thermworks Smoke (or two)
Accessories:
SnS (original, plus and XL)
DnG pans, 6 or 7 of these
Vortex
Grillgrates
and, maybe some other toys as well
When you sear a steak, you will burn most of the rub off, especially a rub that has sugar. I do like to dry brine and use some pepper which seems to stand up to a sear.
- Likes 3
Comment
-
Club Member
- Jun 2018
- 159
- Texas Gulf Coast
-
Smoker: Lyfe Tyme Offset. Firebox 16" Diameter X 16" Long. Cooking chamber 16" Diameter X 32" Long
Grill: Lyfe Tyme 16" Diameter X 24" Long.
Thermometer: Maverick ET-732 and XR50
For smoking, I am a committed stick burner.
For grilling, it's all about charcoal. Almost always HEB brand mesquite charcoal. If not that, then Kingsford mesquite charcoal.
Originally posted by pkadare View PostAs with most things, and not just food, taste is very personal and subjective. Whatever works for you is right! My preference for steaks is to dry brine, no rub, just some pepper. I really never use store bought rubs on anything, and if I do, I try to make sure that it contains no salt.
- Likes 1
Comment
-
Club Member
- Aug 2017
- 7679
-
Primo XL
Weber 26"
Weber 22"
Weber 22"
Weber 18"
Weber Jumbo Joe
Weber Green Smokey Joe (Thanks, Mr. Bones!)
Weber Smokey Joe
Orion Smoker
DigiQ DX2
Slow 'N Sear XL
Arteflame 26.75" Insert
Blaze BLZ-4-NG 32-Inch 4-Burner Built-In
- With Rear Infrared Burner
- With Infrared Sear Burner
- With Rotisserie
Empava 2 Burner Gas Cooktop
Weber Spirit 210
- With Grillgrates
​​​​​​​ - With Rotisserie
Weber Q2200
Blackstone Pizza Oven
Portable propane burners (3)
Propane turkey Fryer
Fire pit grill
I like to dry brine my steaks the day before I cook them. I've never used a rub on a strip steak.
- Likes 1
Comment
-
Club Member
- Jun 2016
- 2490
- Beautiful Downtown Berwyn, IL
-
Grill: SNS Charcoal Kettle/ Grilla Original / Weber Genesis EP-330 / OK Joe Bronco Drum
Thermometers: Thermapen / iGrill 2 / Fireboard
For Smoke: Chunks / Pellet Tube / Mo Pouch
Sous Vide: Joule / Nomiku WiFi (RIP Nomiku)
Reddit: LeCheffre
I'm not so great a planner, so just some 4 seasons salt blend (Salt, pepper, garlic salt, cayenne... but mostly salt) right before it goes on the grill. Just on enough to get the surface wet, which improves smoke adherence... This is for reverse sear, obviously.
I do a lot of them sous vide before sear, so then it might be some salt with the steak in the bag, and then a bit of extra before the sear. Or some Jack Stack Steak Rub (because my wife got it for me and I want to finish it... so I've been rubbing a lot of steaks).
- Likes 2
Comment
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Comment