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    #16
    No fake veggies, fake sugar, fake beer or fake meat for me, Thanks anyway……

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      #17
      When it gets cheap enough, it will take a share of the market (and it likely will get cheaper, efficiencies of scale, and all that). A large portion of the population makes buying decisions based primarily on price. And another portion eats a lot of highly processed, chemical-laden food, and they won't mind after the initial uneasiness (queasiness?) about fake meat passes.

      Need confirmation? Velveeta cheese exists.

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        #18
        Bugs us because it's getting harder to find anything real. Shelves are choked with stuff no one buys, while the real products get snatched up and devoured before we can lay hands on it.

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          #19
          At some point lab generated meat is going to be necessary to feed a growing world population. I don’t believe that time will come in the next 15-25 years. At least I really hope not. By then, I will be old enough and curmudgeonly enough that I’ll insist on the real stuff and get it.

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          • smokenoob
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            I was thinking the same thing….👍

          #20
          I think it is disgusting (lab meat). Veggies processed with binders to simulate meat doesn't interest me. If I want veggies I eat veggies. If I want meat I eat meat.

          I eat tofu but I don't think of it as fake meat.

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          • Attjack
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            I find the concept of lab-grown meat to be a little gross but I also find factory farming to be gross. If factory farming is natural so is lab-grown meat.

          #21
          Originally posted by Old Glory View Post
          I think it is disgusting (lab meat). Veggies processed with binders to simulate meat doesn't interest me. If I want veggies I eat veggies. If I want meat I eat meat.

          I eat tofu but I don't think of it as fake meat.
          it's interesting that you think lab grown meat (which is cultured from chicken etc) is disgusting but don't seem to have a problem with killing a living being and cutting it up.

          Question - if you had 2 strip steaks (say) in front of you, one was a prime cut from a cow and one was lab grown and they were indistinguishable from one another in terms of quality... would you care? If so, why?

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          • Old Glory
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            ...and chemicals. I asked my wife and she said no way in hell she would eat lab meat.

          • Old Glory
            Old Glory commented
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            rickgregory I addressed your question. ComfortablyNumb. I did not make that statement, but I don't disagree with it.

          • DavidNorcross
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            I have no problem killing a living animal that I have either raised or hunted. If I raised it then I know exactly how it was raised and most of all that was not fed in a lab. Most of all when I dispatch it and take its life I know that do it in the most humane way possible and have the utmost respect for the food it has provided to me and my family.

          #22
          I'll stick with the real deal.

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            #23
            I have tried. I am a bit of a perfectionist about reading labels, and i've read the labels of the stuff in the markets. Too much unidentifiable chemical soup. I tried a Beyond burger once, from a restaurant, a friend ordered and I tried a bite. Tasted like your basic chain restaurant burger. Then I tried one at a neighbor's backyard grill party, and just no. Had an off taste and I realized the restaurant one had a lot of flavoring added. After seeing the labels, no. I do agree it has a place, the climate issues are impending doom, I live in Tampa and the water is right here/the sun is a laser beam already. The world is full of starving people, but I don't know that we need to manufacture fake meat to feed them. They need a more solid infrastructure, and more reliable food sources, but nobody says it needs to be meat. So, I don't know about the world thing, but here in my house, no. It has no place at this time. Could change, I'm open minded, but not the choices out there now.

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              #24
              We eat real meat. I will never knowingly eat meat grown in a lab. I find it disgusting and repulsive.

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              • JLR
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                rickgregory Get over it. Killing an animal for food is a fact of life. I don’t know what you mean by “that says something about you”, but I assume it is meant as an insult. If you can’t stomach animals being killed for food, you probably shouldn’t be on a forum called Amazing Ribs. Where do you think ribs come from anyway?
                A factory farm raises real animals, not something from a Petri dish. One is natural, the other is unnatural.
                Last edited by JLR; June 25, 2023, 06:54 AM.

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              #25
              For all the hype and talk the economics and politics just don’t appear to add up.

              In 2018 there were 835 federally inspected livestock slaughter plants in the US. There was an additional 3,775 plants that processed red meat in the US. There were also 2,979 federally inspected poultry slaughter and processing plants too in the US. And that is just one country.

              There were, just a few years ago 527,019 employees directly involved in the processing and distribution of meats. Overall, the meat and poultry industry broadly is responsible for 5.4 million jobs and $257 billion in wages when you consider ranchers, chicken farmers, grain farmers, finishing operations, truckers, builders, inspectors and the like which are supported by the industry.

              According the a 2016 analysis the US meat and poultry industry accounts for $1.02 trillion in total economic output or 5.6% of GDP.

              What economist, politician or governmental official is going to support undermining this industry, bankrupting wide swaths of the agribusiness industry, putting so many people out of their jobs, and jeopardizing our export markets?

              And as we all know, consolidation of the industry into a few companies and labs will always bring about lower prices for consumers as we all have learned from the airline and cable tv industries.😂

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              • JLR
                JLR commented
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                "What economist, politician or governmental official is going to support undermining this industry, bankrupting wide swaths of the agribusiness industry, putting so many people out of their jobs, and jeopardizing our export markets?"
                The same ones who want to put the oil industry out of business.

              #26
              Thanks all. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 20+ years.

              When we we starting our business, we discussed an ad campaign that would poke a bit of fun at the fake meeting industry by comparing ingredient lists and then showing our cattle on green pastures, followed by a few "mad scientists" in lab coats working on mystery meat.

              it may have brought some PR , but we also feared it could bring PETA to picket our butcher shop or let our cattle out at night.

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              • SJUfeller
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                *PETA
                * let our cattle out at night

              • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
                ItsAllGoneToTheDogs commented
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                PITA is an acronym for Pain In the Ass... so also applicable when it comes to the poor legit folks doing right by their animals that have to deal with them

              • Spinaker
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                Back in the day my Dad was part owner of a mink farm in ID. PETA would repeatedly break in at night and let the mink out to run free. Half of them would stay in their pens, half would wonder out........almost all of them would came back with in a few hours. The rest.......well I am sure they all starved, dehydrated or were preyed upon. Domestic animals are not wild animals. PETA never understands that distinction.

              #27
              I am 100% No. To quote Samuel Jackson from Pulp Fiction, "Sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie, but I'll never know cause I won't eat the filthy MF'r.

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                #28
                You will never see any in my shopping cart. Can you see the family gathering, PASS THE FAKE MEAT! please. Kind of like fake news.

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                  #29
                  I’ve tried some and have enjoyed it. I’ll also try new kinds as they come out. I don’t reach for alternative meats as my first choice but do buy them to try them. I feel it’s a cultural change. The perception of where and how the food is produced will change as the cost, quality, availability, and impacts are evaluated.

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                    #30
                    Fake meat cannot be beat,
                    For it I do not run, be still my feet.
                    In a class of its own
                    To try I postpone

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