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    Cooking That Perfect Ribeye

    Similar post to cooking the Perfect Pork Chop, I thought I'd ask the same question of cooking your ideal ribeye. Whether you like a hot iron skillet in butter, a reverse sear on a spin grate, a front sear and roast or a combo of sous vide and sear, tell me what your preferred method is. Over time I've done a good ribeye just about anyway imaginable. I first started cooking them in a pan or broiler then in college got a hold of a small hibachi and fell in love with the charcoal flavor and superior searing. Later I transitioned in to doing them on a gasser with a reverse sear on regular or grill grates. Great results but often times if I didn't time it just right I'd slightly overshoot them ending up with some gray banding. Not a big deal but that seemed to be a good, but not great way to cook steak. It also lacked the flavor that little hibachi and charcoal gave me.

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    In order to get more flavor by using charcoal and wood chunks, I moved to doing them on a Weber kettle using the front then reverse sear methods. For me both work equally well if employed in the proper manner. I found the flavor profile superior to the gasser and soon adopted that as my primary method of cooking ribeyes. But again, depending on the conditions of and heat of the fire in the SNS, I'd occasionally overshoot with the proverbial gray banding occurring. Not a big deal once again but not ideal.

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    With the advent of sous vide I've now adopted the SVS method of cooking. The obvious advantage to sous vide is perfect edge to edge cooking at whatever temperature you choose. For me 130*F for one and a half to two hours is ideal. After that I leave them rest on the countertop until they begin to ramp down in temperature a few degrees. I fire up a screaming hot chimney of coals in my SNS and reverse sear for a combination of 1-1/2 minutes per side. The advantage is a pretty near perfectly cooked steak. The second advantage is that it's hands off, you let the sous vide do the work for you automatically. If you decide to finish the steaks later you can just chuck them into the fridge and sear at your convenience, the ultimate for gatherings or mid-week cooks when time is of the essence.

    Like everything else the disadvantage is that lack of deep barbecue flavor that the charcoal and wood give you. In essence it's almost returning to the gasser method as far as flavor is concerned. Don't get me wrong that's not necessarily a bad thing but in a blind taste test I'd bet all things being the same a good ribeye cooked over charcoal and wood would win most of the time.

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    Of course there are other subsets of the above. I've cooked quite a few steaks using open fire on a Santa Maria type grill which yields a superior flavor profile. Unfortunately unless you cook this way often it can be hard to control the outcome, at least for me. There are a ton of variables from heat of the coals to the amount of wind blowing on any given day.


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    Finally, and again not to be taken as inferior, is cooking ribeyes on a pellet grill sear setup. The heat level provides that excellent sear your looking for. Since I don't utilize this method very often I don't have much of an opinion one way or the other. To me, once again, the flavor profile just isn't there.


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    It's almost like asking you to choose your favorite child, but which method do you employ that gives you the best results and flavor profiles you seek in a well cooked ribeye steak? I don't think the answer should necessarily be right or wrong but a preference on your part.

    So show me your wares, how do you best like to cook a ribeye steak ??

    Last edited by Troutman; February 20, 2022, 12:01 PM.

    #2
    All I have is a weber and an SNS, so...

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    • WI Bubba
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      And that's all you need to make a great steak.

    #3
    Much to my wife's annoyance, I am more of a strip or sirloin person than a ribeye person. What has been working well for me is reverse sear (Weber, charcoal) followed by a sear in ghee in cast iron. The ghee adds a mild "butteryness" that goes well with the steak. I actually think I prefer it to the more neutral avocado oil I've been using.

    I have yet to do MeatHead's afterburner method on chimney. I really just need to pick up a smaller grate (I'm terrified I'm going to knock the silly thing over) or just use two skewers to balance the steak on top.

    Your photo with the butter reminded me I need to keeping trying to find a garlic-butter recipe I like. And try using some finishing salts, too!

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      #4
      Nice set of snapshots!

      I’m still indoors for another month or so, not because I don’t like to grill outside in the cold, but because I don’t like to clean up outside in the cold.

      Indoors, it’s cast iron over a medium hot burner, turning frequently. The butter and herbs? Eh. More trouble than it’s worth, IMO. Just salt and pepper is fine.

      Outdoors is pretty much the same, but with radiant heat rather than conductive heat. Salt and pepper, meat close to the fire, turn frequently.

      I’ve done them sous vide, but it’s more work for the same result, or at best incrementally better results, really at the expense of a darker sear. I’m not afraid of the gray band, in fact I kind of like it.

      Most of my ribeyes and strip steaks are less than 1 1/2” thick, so I don’t do much reverse sear. I do use it on filets. If I get a really thick ribeye or strip, I’ll reverse sear, the close flame/constant flip method takes the same time but is more of a PITA.

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        #5
        I get the best results for me in a Kettle using a front sear. If it's just the two of us, I will use thick prime filet and sear them over a very hot upside down chimney of KBB. I use less charcoal that way, and I get a lower temp when I dump the lit charcoal in the SnS. I move any partially used charcoal to one side and dump the lit coals right next to them. I prefer to keep the temp around 250° for the roasting part, but 300° is OK.

        My method is to get the KBB fully lit in the upside down chimney and use a 13" SS grate for the sear using the cold grate technique. I flip after 30 seconds and after the second side has had it's turn for 30 seconds, I remove the steaks for 30 seconds to allow a little cooling. Then I sear the first side again and repeat. After both sides are properly seared, I remove for ~ a minute and sear the edges. I want the edges at least a little brown. I then hold the steaks off the grill for about another minute while I get the Kettle/SnS ready. The steaks go on the indirect side with a probe to monitor until the final temp is reached.

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        For me, this works better than a reverse sear because I have better control over the final temp. With reverse sear, the high heat raises the temp too fast and it's easy to overshoot the temp you want, and there's also more carryover rise because of the higher cooking temp.

        At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it...

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        • Troutman
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          Yea I forgot to include the "flip-flop" method. I used to do that with direct heat on my gasser. Actually worked pretty well, you get to know when they are done.

        #6
        I have used all the methods mentioned except searing on a pellet grill. Have had success as well as failure with each of them. My ribeyes always seem to come out just OK more or less. Certainly good enough to fully enjoy, but I can honestly say I have never done "the perfect steak". But I’ll keep trying!

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          #7
          For me, step one, start with prime dry aged ribeye. Dry brine. Step two heat a cheap black iron skillet on a holy shit Batman burner until just before nuclear fission. Step 3 while skillet is coming to melting point let steak come to room temp (probably start a bit sooner) Step 4 Drop the steak in for about 30 seconds a side. Step 5 plop on a plate that has been dusted with fresh cracked pepper and garlic powder. Crack more pepper on top, and more garlic powder. Slice and devour you black and blue steak.

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          • texastweeter
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            I do it outside of course lol.

          • Michael_in_TX
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            I like the approach of doing the pepper once it comes off the heat. I don't know if I am just sensitive to it, if it is the pepper I am using, but if I pepper-then-sear I get a mild bitter taste.

          • texastweeter
            texastweeter commented
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            Michael_in_TX exactly. Anything I put on there at that heat would burn. I use a turkey fryer or my Camp Chef outdoor range on high.

          #8
          I like a good ribeye cooked over wood coals. That said, probably the best steaks that I've made for myself have been on the stove in a cast iron skillet.

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            #9
            I'm firmly in the SVS camp. Joule SV unit to target temp, 60-90 sec per side on screaming hot GrillGrates on the gasser. Perfect every time. I can live without the smoke flavor

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            • Davek8282
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              +1 more important to me to have the edge to edge cooked perfection than the smoke flavour

            #10
            I exclusively use my Santa Maria grill and a dome. You are spot on when you say practice is needed to gauge the temp of the fire on a Santa Maria. I use my hand to judge the heat/level. I flip every three minutes and the dome stays on the top of the steaks for much of the cook. I do let the steaks rest for 5 minutes, minimum, before eating. Aesthetically, this tends to cause more banding but I haven’t found that to be detrimental to texture. Also, I don’t care for a blood rare steak as my daughter does.

            I have found that I really don’t like my rib-eye SV’d. I have had good luck with New York steaks that way but really prefer the rib-eye grilled start to finish.

            When I began to write about my "perfect" method I chuckled a bit. I know that my perfect method comes not only from practice but a significant bias. I am definitely the best cook around because I have either adapted a great method OR I have convinced myself that my finished product is the tastiest. I really think the later is the truth.

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            • Troutman
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              Yea I think SM style may turn out the best flavor profile. I do like your dome idea, I’m giving that a try for sure.

            #11
            I’ve cooked steaks about every way I can think of with the tools I have and still try variations all the time. For any thick steak, not just a Ribeye here’s where I am at right now.

            If I want the best overall flavor: Front sear on WSCG. I don’t do the reverse sear often because I like to light a second small chimney and it’s often a fight to light it outside the grill when the wind always seems to be blowing here.

            Most tender: 90-120 minutes sous vide, sear in cast iron. Lacks depth of flavor vs above, so only do this when it’s super cold, super windy, or I suspect the steak needs tendering.

            Best lazy compromise: Reverse on pellet grill, sear on gasser or cast iron. My most used method.

            If I really wanted to impress a group and keep the process manageable, I’d smoke them on the MAK, then sear them on the WSCG. I just feel wasteful lighting charcoal only to sear, so don’t do it for just a couple steaks very often.

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              #12
              Done front, reverse and other methods however, I've pretty much adopted SVS for steak using the chimney grate for the sear. In addition to what you've already stated, another advantage is in the winter the outside component is quick. Weather and clean up not an issue. With steak I'm pretty much old school on seasoning. Salt, a dry brine and course pepper. I've used other like BBR, MH's new beef rub and Hard Core among others in the collection. I keep go back to salt and pepper.

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                #13
                SV is almost no fail and I do that most of time. But, like tbob4 I really enjoy doing them on the SMG. Especially those 2 inchers, hold and flip them high over the fire where they get a little heat (7 second hand test for me) but a nice kiss of smoke until an IT 120 - 125 then stir the fire and finish them off. That's about as fun as outdoor cooking gets for me.

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                • Troutman
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                  Yea SM thinking back is a favorite. I just need to master it better.

                #14
                I've made SV steaks a few times. Maybe I'm letting them go too long in the water bath or doing something else wrong but the fat and connective tissue have a weird gelatin-like texture that I don't like.

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                • Troutman
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                  The sear normally takes care of that.

                • 58limited
                  58limited commented
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                  Guess I didn't get a good enough sear on mine, I'll try again soon.

                #15
                I'm with tbob4 . For thicker steaks we dry-brine then cook with the "vertical" reverse-sear on the Buckaroo Santa Maria style cooker over a live oak fire. Once the steaks come up to temp, drop the grate down to just over the now-coals to sear for just minute or so per side. Can't beat the smoke from the wood fire.

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                • Troutman
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                  Agree 👍

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