Please pardon me for asking something that has probably been discussed before. I did search, but didn't find this topic. I have a WSM 14" and I've got an 8 lb pork butt lined up and ready to go. My boyfriend came home with 12 pounds of spare ribs, wanting me to add them to the cook. I think I could fit them in if I stand them up and curve them in a circle on the top grate. My question is, is it a bad idea to cook 20 pounds of meat at once on my little smoker? Will it take many extra hours? Might it be hard to keep the temp up high enough? Should I cut them in half and cook just one half of the ribs and freeze the rest to smoke next time? Thanks for your help. This is my fourth smoke. Having so much fun, and each time gets better. Cheers!
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I say if you can fit it all in there without anything touching the walls, and still have a decent spot to put the temp probe (if you have one?) you're good. That's a good amount though for a 14!
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Eric's Brisket Method
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Stacy's Bouef Bourguignon
Eric's Smoked Texas Chili
Rancho Gordo Beans and Bean Club
Troutman's Ribs - Step By Step Primer
Grilled Pork Chops: Harissa Marinade
Light My (Hasty Bake) Fire
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If all that fits without touching (as Huskee says) then go for it. The issue is not how much meat by weight. It's thickness and what temp you can maintain. That said, that's a lot of meat for a small cooker. Remember it will impact the temp a lot. You may need longer than expected for that much meat.
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Grillin' on a 22" Weber Kettle and smokin' hot. Wait, I mean smokin' on a 14" Weber Smokey Mountain smoker.
Oooh, I love you guys. Real time BBQ advice 24/7.I decided to go easy on the little smoker and just smoke 6 pounds of ribs and my butt. The real answer is... Mama needs a bigger smoker!
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Grillin' on a 22" Weber Kettle and smokin' hot. Wait, I mean smokin' on a 14" Weber Smokey Mountain smoker.
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Breadhead, I'm dying over here!! I caught MCS on my first smoke, when I discovered that it's absurd to try to cook a brisket on my little 14" smoker. I thought I was being prudenl. I thought I'd probably smoke once, find it exhausting, and leave it alone for another three to six months. Wrong!!!
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- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
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- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
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Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
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- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
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- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
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- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold & Lime
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red - big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
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A less expensive entry into more capacity would be a 22" or 26" Weber kettle and the Slow 'N Sear (Sns) or SnSXL. When you need to do more, you can run both at the same time.
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Do you mean the Weber kettle grill, as opposed to another smoker? I have one--the 22".Hmmmm....didn't think about using that to smoke.. Time to figure that out!!
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Yes Siree GirlpoweredBBQ . The Weber Kettle & SnS produces very good smoked meat or chicken. Plus, there is absolutely no better way to reverse sear steaks and burgers. Pull the MCS trigger on the SnS soon. With that rig and your 14" WSM you might be able to keep you MCS at bay for a little while.😆
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We have two weber kettle grills (one LARGE and one small/average), the SnS and the Weber Smokey Mountain 18" smoker. We use both natural lump charcoal and KNB for smoking and measure our temps with a Maverick 733, thermopen and MK4. Favorite beer depends on what is cooking (alt answer is yes).
+1 to Huskee's comment.
Also, if you can fit it, you may wish to cut the butt in half. More bark and faster cook time.Last edited by richinlbrg; July 17, 2016, 10:27 AM.
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Hey! That's sexist! I make twice as much money as him..... And I buy all my own gear. Pfffft!Last edited by GirlpoweredBBQ; July 17, 2016, 02:00 PM.
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I bring home the bacon.... And then smoke it in my WSM! ☺
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+1 on what Huskee said.... Also with the Kettle and SnS combo you have a lot of versatility from a grill standpoint. SnS is the best 2 zone addition for a grill... I love it for doing reverse sear on chops, steaks, chicken, etc...
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Hi, my name is Darrell. I'm an OTR truck driver for over 25 years. During my off time I love doing backyard cooks. I have a 48" Lang Deluxe smoker, Rec-Tec pellet smoker,1 Weber Genesis 330, 1 Weber Performer (blue), 2 Weber kettles (1 black and 1 Copper), 1 26" Weber kettle, a WSM, 8 Maverick Redi Chek thermometers, a PartyQ, 2 SnS, Grill Grates, Cast Iron grates, 1 ThermoPop (orange) and 2 ThermoPens (pink and orange) and planning on adding more cooking accessories. Now I have an Anova sous vide, the Dragon blower and 2 Chef alarms from Thermoworks.
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Grill/Smoke/Roast = SnS Grills Kettle + SnS Deluxe Insert & Drip n' Griddle
Grill/Smoke/Roast = Hasty-Bake Gourmet Dual Finish with HB rotisserie and Grill Grates
Smoke = Weber Smokey Mountain 22.5"
Pizza = Blackstone Propane Pizza Oven (Stacy's, but she let's me use it sometimes)
Indoor Cooking = LG Studio 30" gas range
Camp Cooking = Coleman 2 burner white gas stove
Thermometer = FireBoard FBX2 with 2 ambient and 6 meat probes
Thermapen Mk IV = Light blue
Thermapen Mk IV = Black
PID Controller = Fireboard Drive + Auber 20 CFM Fan (FB gen 1 fan)
PID Controller = Fireboard Drive + Fireboard 20 CFM Fan (FB gen 2 fan)
Knives
Wusthof Classic Ikon set: 9" carving knive, 2X 8" Chef's Knife, 7" Santoku and three utility knives
Kamikoto Kuro set: 7" Santoku, 6.5" Nakiri, 5" Utility
Amazing Ribs Brazilian Steak knife set
Favorite wine = whatever is currently in the wine rack
Favorite beer = Sam Adams Boston Lager or Shiner Bock
Favorite whisky = Lagavulin Distiller's Edition 16 year old single malt
Best Cookbooks - Meathead's "The Science of Great Barbecue and Grilling", Chris Lilly's "Big Bob Gibson's BBQ Book", Aaron Franklin's "Franklin BBQ"
Cookbooks to check out - Raichlen's "Brisket Chronicles" and anything by Adam Perry Lang.
Current fanboy cookbook - "Chasing Smoke: Cooking Over Fire Around the Levant"
Some Posts in Pitmaster to check out:
Eric's Brisket Method
Eric's Method for Drunken Texas Beans
Stacy's Bouef Bourguignon
Eric's Smoked Texas Chili
Rancho Gordo Beans and Bean Club
Troutman's Ribs - Step By Step Primer
Grilled Pork Chops: Harissa Marinade
Light My (Hasty Bake) Fire
Eric
If you've already got a grill, which your signature says you do, then I would add a larger WSM and a Slow n Sear :-)
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+1 to Eqowper. I have a WSM 18" and the 26" Weber kettle with an SNS (actually, an SnS and an SnS XL). Best flexibility.Last edited by richinlbrg; July 17, 2016, 10:56 AM.
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My recommendation is to go slow initially. Ask yourself how often you need to smoke that much meat at one time. I had a WSM 18. Wasn't unusual to smoke a pork butt followed by a brisket, ribs or chicken. But only one of the meats was intended for the day's meal. The other was vacuum sealed and went into the freezer. Chicken was something I aimed for the freezer often after smoking some beef or pork. I now have a Yoder YS640 and do the same thing. If I am going to the trouble to fire up the smoker, it is rarely for just one meal.
That said, if stating from scratch, I would go Weber Kettle with SNS first. I wouldn't jump to add a bigger WSM until you are sure that is what you want (vs. a backwoods chubby or some type of pellet smoker vs ????).Last edited by jlazar; July 17, 2016, 12:57 PM.
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Great advice. I don't fire it up without the intention of cooking a lot of meat. My boyfriend lifts weights and eats a lot of meat!!! I have been smoking every Sunday and then eat it all week. Even so, I have definitely now been convinced to start with the SnS. Yay! 22 more inches of grill space!
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You may want to consider a 26", GirlpoweredBBQ . The extra real estate can be quite nice!
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We have two weber kettle grills (one LARGE and one small/average), the SnS and the Weber Smokey Mountain 18" smoker. We use both natural lump charcoal and KNB for smoking and measure our temps with a Maverick 733, thermopen and MK4. Favorite beer depends on what is cooking (alt answer is yes).
GirlpoweredBBQ , when I have a small smoke, I now use the kettle/SnS. Since I got the SnS, I only use the WSM for large cooks. For VERY large cooks, I have run both as smokers simultaneously.
For ME, the kettle is easier/faster to set up, uses significantly less charcoal, and I keep the flexibility with the grill. Welcome to MCS!
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Smokers / Grills- Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
- PBC
- Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
- Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
- Slow 'N Sear Master Kettle (cart-mounted)
- Slow 'N Sear Travel Kettle
- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Traeger Flatrock Griddle
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold & Lime
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red - big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
About me
Real name: Aaron
Location: Farwell, Michigan - near Clare (dead center of lower peninsula).
Occupation:- Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) at MyMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.
GirlpoweredBBQ I'm glad you already have a 22" kettle. That makes turning it into a smoker and expanding your capabilities very economical for you for a very modest price with only the SnS. No need to go big just yet, unless your 22" kettle/SnS and 14" WSM together prove too small. ABCbarbecue.com has some excellent techniques for the main BBQ meats as well as lighting instructions and temp control specific to the kettle/SnS setup...written by some really cool people! If you're really considering purchasing the SnS, this Amazon link will help AmazingRibs get a finder's fee, but won't affect your price.
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Brilliant!! Thanks! Yes, gotta do this without delay as I just cooked some extremely disappointing spare ribs on my WSM. They didn't fit and I cooked them in a contorted way that resulted in some sections that resembled jerky and others that were kinda rubbery slimy. Just about broke my heart.
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Hey, Huskee, do you think I should get this model you have linked, or buy the SnS Plus? I don't really understand the difference, and I'm wondering if it's worth the price for the more expensive model. Thanks in advance!
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GirlpoweredBBQ I'll risk being stoned and say that if you want to smoke 20 lb of pork as you mentioned in your OP you need at least a WSM 22 or maybe a larger cooker. Not dissing the 22 kettle/SNS combo, it's great for a rack or two of ribs or a single butt but it just doesn't have the real estate for a big cook. Just the facts, ma'am.
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