I've read fxdoc's review and some other notes...any difficulty controlling temps, and did it take along time for coals to ash over? I bought weber briquettes last summer on clearance at target and never ended up using them.
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
stickbit , I still plan on using the Weber briquettes in my PBC. Because they make so much ash, I was going to prop the coal basket legs up a bit with patio pavers. Some people mix the Weber with Kingsford Professional, or start the fire with KP in the chimney and then let the Weber carry the cook the rest of the way. The Weber is supposed to give a longer, hotter burn, but so far for me that has not been the case.
FWIW, keeping a bag of any charcoal on the deck for a long time might possibly result in damp charcoal, no matter who's the vendor, unless you have it in an airtight bin, which I'm assuming you do, but I had to mention it just in case. I store all my charcoal in Rubbermaid bins in the garage.
Honestly, stickbit, if it was me, I'd give the Weber a try. You may have results different from mine and may really like it. Experimentation is part of the fun of a cook.
Kathryn
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Weber charcoal was different than the KBB but it was fine. I would use it again - just have to modify start up process etc.
I was completely sidetracked with my lid still leaking. I tried Pam spray around the lid,I used weights on the lid, and I hit the lid with a rubber mallet...and after all of that...if I got really lucky and spun the lid just right i was able to keep the smoke isolated to the rebar holes. FRUSTRATING!! Way to much work. I guess I need to try the lava lock and hope that works.
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
- Jul 2014
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
Yeah, stickbit once my PBC rim started leaking, (after 2 years of use), the only recourse was to Lava-Lok the lip of the lid. I tried everything else first, though. No problems since the Lava Lok.
In the meanwhile, crimping a length of aluminum foil (about 4 inches wide and however long you need it) around the area that leaks, wrapping the edge seam tightly from lid to under the barrel rim, works great. Of course you have to take the foil off each time you want to lift the lid. But with my lid leaks, they were worse at the beginning of a cook but not too bad--as in they didn't affect the PBC temp--after a few hours into the cook.
Good to hear you're giving Weber briquettes another go. I want to like them because of the long burn they give.
Kathryn
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fzxdoc thanks for the note - I'm going to order the lava-lok and hopefully that's the solution. which one did you get? can you post a link? seems there are several on Amazon.
Also, do you think you're going to try Weber or another brand again? Or stick with Kingsford competition?
Thanks again for all your help!
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
- Jul 2014
- 8246
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
stickbit I got my Lava Lok seal from Amazon here:
https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Bi...lava+lock+seal
For sure I'm going to try Weber again. I've got about 6 bags of it, all bought on sale at the end of the season last year when it was pretty cheap. A couple of bags I got for $5.99 as I recall.
I'm going to try it out in my WSCGC with and without the SnS and see how it does there. It makes so much ash that I feel that it clogs my PBC for long cooks. Others report that it burns in their smokers (not PBCs) for a very long time. I didn't have that experience because the coals kept ashing over and the underside of my PBC coal basket was packed with ash, so several of the coals were unburned at the end of my long PBC cooks.
On my PBC, I'm going to raise the basket up a little bit on paver tiles to see if that helps the stuff to burn better during long cooks.
It seems fine for short cooks, but since its claim to fame is a long steady burn for hours, I'd like to use it for that. If I still have problems, I'll mix it with KBB or Professional and see how that goes.
As far as Kingsford and my PBC: I use Kingsford Professional for short cooks and Kingsford Original for long cooks, usually.
Kathryn
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fzxdoc how do you like that WSCGC ? That looks like one nice grill!
I didn't have that experience of long, hot cooks either with the Weber charcoal...and it did produce a ton of ash. Who knows though as I had my bag out on the deck (not in a bin) for months. Look forward to hearing your experiences when you use it again.
I have a Weber Spirit along with the PBC - seems like a good match. Never owned a Weber kettle ...sadly...but tempted to pick one up. not sure how often i would use it though
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stickbit I have a Weber Spirit plus 3 kettles, a WSM and a PBC (and an electric smoker). Once you get into kettle cooking you'll find yourself using your gas grill less and less. My gas grill has seen very little use the past couple of years.
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
- Jul 2014
- 8246
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
stickbit , I love that WSCGC. It's fun to be able to smoke either in kamado mode or in kettle mode with the SnS. The flavor profile is a little different from the PBC--both are great cookers though.
I have a Weber Summit gasser, and for a long while the PBC was my only smoker. I agree--a gasser and the PBC are a great combo. That said, I enjoy using the WSCGC as a kettle for charcoal grilling, which I really couldn't do very well on the PBC.
Kathryn
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FWIW: In addition to "regular" Kingsford briquettes, I have used Stubb's briquettes, Kamado Joe lump, Frontier brand lump, and B&B lump (oak) in my PBC...all with good success. Past the KBB, I can easily recommend any of those others for a good, long, steady burn (assuming they have been shipped and stored properly, of course) in the PBC, like for a brisket cook. The Publix store brand lump is not bad stuff, either. While the Royal Oak briquette can indeed be competitively priced, my personal experience with it was not really good.
I recently had a VERY BAD experience with Trader Joe's store brand briquettes. I opened a bag that had been very carefully stored, and the stuff simply would NOT BURN. When I took the bag back to the store for a refund, a TJ store clerk verified my experience, and said that he too, had inconsistent results with some that he had tried. He also mentioned that TJ were modifying their charcoal formula to address this issue for this year's grilling season.
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
- Jul 2014
- 8246
-
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
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Chosen weapons
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Weber Genesis EP330 gas grill
Pit Barrel Cooker (PBC), original (18") version smoker
Thank you, fzxdoc, for posting your Amazon link to the LavaLock seal you used on your PBC (as well as all the other GREAT info you have provided!!!). Are you since satisfied with this seal's fit and performance?
Clearly, I need one for my PBC lid, as well...
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Founding Member & Pit Barrel Cooker Queen
- Jul 2014
- 8246
-
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
I haven't had even a teensy bit of an air leak problem after adding the LavaLok gasket to my PBC, lual . The lid fits nice and snug, just like it did when I first got my PBC, all the way up to about 2 years later when it began misbehaving.
It's a good thing when a simple fix is all that is needed.
Kathryn
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Thank you all!! This site has so much great info.
a) I'm definitely going to buy the lava lok soon. Seems well worth it.
b) I want to try some different charcoal...but probably just briquettes...I keep having these nightmares of burning my deck down if I try lump...
c) REALLY wanted to try Trader Joe's charcoal until I read the recent notes...I called them the other day and they said they will e stocked in May...hoping that new formula fixes the problem
d) Think I need to get a kettle...but then not sure the gasser will ever be used again...maybe in a pinch haha
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