Yes I couldn't wait for Weber's big announcement last April(?) and nearly drooled over the innovation and new versatility until I saw the price. Man they are PROUD of that cooker. With a perfectly working Performer / SNS setup and PBC on the side, I couldn't find the cost to benefit argument that worked for me. So now after a few months I find myself reconsidering. Why? I have been a die hard Weber user since 1975 so I get it. They freaking work. And after looking at the WSCG again recently I'm starting to really appreciate the innovation after the sticker shock has past (sort of). So I'm hoping the WSCG owners out there with some cooks under their belt might find a moment to share the experience. Were your expectations met and is it really worth it? Don't be shy - talk it up or talk it down, I'd really like to know. Thanks!
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Cookers:
22" Blackstone Griddle, with stand & hood
CharGriller Portable Firebox - so modified you'll BLOL
Kitchenaid #810 Charcoal Grill - highly modified
Weber BI-code Black Performer w/Igniter
Weber DE-code Red Limited - 'Lucille'
Accessories:
Ancient heavy CI Propane Turkey Fryer, for lighting chimneys
BBQ Dragon kettle shelves - 2
Fyre Dragon Kettle Drippin' Ring, Burnin' Cone & Drippin' Pan - 2 sets
Fyre Dragon Kettle Ribbin' Ring
Fyre Dragon Kettle 2-Zone Smokin' Sheet
OneGrill Rotisserie for the Kitchenaid
Smokenator
Smoking Tubes: 2x12" & 1x6"
SnS
Weber Gourmet Grill w/Griddle, Pizza Stone & Wok
My Helpers:
Anova 900W Sous Vide Cooker w/Radios
Instant Pot 6Q Duo
Nesco Tabletop Roaster
& the PIT!
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- Bacliff, TX
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Motovlogging for the freedom of old Hippies...
https://www.youtube.com/c/LonnieMac
Home of Brutus Ten!
http://www.alenuts.com/Alenuts/Alenuts.html
Pits:
Weber Performer Deluxe W/ SNS, Craycort CI grates
WSCGC (Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center W/ SNS Plus, DNG
Texas Original Pits Offset Smoker
RecTec 590
WSM 18" W/ Upside-down door mod
Camp Chief Flattop, The big one...
Weber Genesis II S-335
Texas Fire Pit
Thermos:
Maveric's Most all of em...
FireBoard W/ Fan Control, GURU Fan
ThermoWorks, most all of em...
Meater
The WSCGC is a game changer. It's a Kamado, Performer, Kettle, WSM and more all rolled into one. I have literally ran mine for three days on one load. Couple that with a FireBoard, fan cable and fan, SNS, DNG. I have literally replaced all my grills with this thing.
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Club Member
- Jan 2017
- 824
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Weber Genesis 300 series
Weber Summit Charcoal With custom grill center
Primo XL 400
Blackstone 22" TableTop Griddle
Ooni Pro Pizza oven
Spoiler alert - I love mine...
Versatility in it's singular package is what sets it apart. As lonnie Mac says up above, it's all those cookers rolled into one....and where I use mine (summer getaway) that's exactly what I want. It has the capacity to allow me to make a Bunch of food for the masses when it's time for that, and it's super efficient on charcoal for smaller family cooks. I had mine running on one load for more than 24 hours once and I only don't know how much longer it ran b/c I stopped caring (or started drinking....).
Temp control....I can almost dial in the temp on that thing by the degree any more. it's responsive to damper changes and I can really put the temp exactly where I want it with minimal fluctuation.
I acknowledge the sticker shock...but I'll tell you, I've never regretted one penny of that purchase since getting this thing.
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24X40 Lone Star Grillz offset smoker
Weber Summit Charcoal Grill w/SnS and DnG (Spartacus)
20X36 Lonestar Grillz pellet pooper
SnS 18" Travel Kettle
SmokeDaddy Pro portable pellet pooper
2 W22's w/SnS, DnG (1 black, 1 copper) (Minions 1 and 2)
20+ y/o many times rebuilt Weber Genesis w/GrillGrates (Gas Passer)
20 x 30 Santa Maria grill (Maria, duh)
Bradley cabinet smoker (Pepper Gomez)
36" Blackstone griddle (The Black Beauty)
Fireboard
Thermoworks Smoke and Thermapen.
Gourmet dinnerware by PJ Enterprises
For the very same reasons that you mentioned I hesitated, then purchased. Not only am I not disappointed, I am thrilled with the quality, versatility, and ease of use and maintenance. With all due respect to our kamado owning members, the WSCG does all of that plus what you'd expect from a kettle. One of our members shared an eBay vendor who was selling them for $999 and that sealed the deal for me. I haven't seen that vendor post in a while, but I would have bought one anyway at the MAP of $1499. I'm hoping fzxdoc will chime in because she and Max Good were the catalysts for my purchase.
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My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron GriddleGrill Grate for SnSGrill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:Extreme BBQ Thermometer PackagePit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:Thermapen MK4 (pink)Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
The WSCGC is a beauty of a cooker and, in my opinion, well worth the money. I bought mine over 2 years ago, two months after they were first released, and haven't looked back. The fun of using it, just as lonnie mac described, in kettle or kamado mode just goes on and on. The fact that the grill is 24 inches in diameter positions it nicely between the 22 and 26 inch kettles and I have yet to run out of room even on big cooks. In kettle mode, it works super well with the SnS/DnG/Charcoal basket and the Vortex too.
The Weber Summit Charcoal is well thought out and well built, rock solid in performance and responsive to very small adjustments. I've never experienced a runaway temperature with it in kamado mode. Sure the temp has on occasion gone higher than desired, but it comes right back into line with a small vent adjustment. Plus it's the first time a dial thermometer pretty much matches my grill-level thermometer throughout much of the cook. Imagine that.
When I first got it over 2.5 years back, I got a lot of feedback here that it was not worth the purchase price--or, more specifically, that it was a great cooker but "Webers shouldn't cost that much". The MSRP for the WSCGC is $2299, and I got mine for $1999. Now you can beat that price at least for the WSCG (no built in table and storage) if you look around, as CaptainMike suggests. I think I've gotten my money back time and again with its reliable and responsive cooking capabilities.
One cooker, one footprint that is both a reliable well-built kettle and kamado? No regrets here.
Kathryn
P.S. Mr. Fancypants in his full glory:
Last edited by fzxdoc; November 7, 2018, 06:36 AM.
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You're right, cgrover60 , you can get a basic experience with the charcoal basket. But the one that comes with the WSCGC is the standard small flimsy one; the SnS with the DnG as a a baffle provides superior performance. I enjoy the SnS/DnG because it provides a better kettle experience for me. I find I use it much more than I thought I would, often when doing smaller cooks for the two of us.
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Also, cgrover60 , (I ran out of allowed space in the previous comment), searing with the SnS cold grate method is perfect. You could always wait on getting the SnS until you know your way around the WSCG, but I wouldn't think of using just the charcoal baskets for smoking or searing now that I know from experience how great the SnS is.
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The only complaint I've heard about Weber Summit Charcoal Grills is the price, and that invariably comes from people who don't own one. I believe this stems from the fact that Summits look a lot like a traditional Weber kettle, but they are just plain bigger and better as the comments above illustrate.
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I don't own one (yet) but what I like about it is that it has a port for fan control. So, no after-purchase mods are necessary for automated low/slow temp control. Who in the heck REALLY wants to drill a hole into their cooker?
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Why are you "in trouble" over that Rod
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CaptainMike I thought I was good-to-go with my cooker line up. Now not so much. So I'm in trouble with myself in trying to justify that cost.
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I get the sticker shock Rod, and while a little pricey you only have to buy it once, but get to use it for a lifetime. I cook on mine at least twice a week.
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- Bacliff, TX
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Motovlogging for the freedom of old Hippies...
https://www.youtube.com/c/LonnieMac
Home of Brutus Ten!
http://www.alenuts.com/Alenuts/Alenuts.html
Pits:
Weber Performer Deluxe W/ SNS, Craycort CI grates
WSCGC (Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center W/ SNS Plus, DNG
Texas Original Pits Offset Smoker
RecTec 590
WSM 18" W/ Upside-down door mod
Camp Chief Flattop, The big one...
Weber Genesis II S-335
Texas Fire Pit
Thermos:
Maveric's Most all of em...
FireBoard W/ Fan Control, GURU Fan
ThermoWorks, most all of em...
Meater
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Very cool lonnie mac and a great logistics reality check. Thanks for sharing!
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Very cool indeed. Thanks for sharing lonnie mac
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Club Member
- Mar 2016
- 1626
- Sunny SoCal
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Cooking gadgets
Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center
Weber Summit Platinum D6
Blue Rhino Razor
Dyna-Glo XL Premium Dual Chamber
Camp Chef Somerset IV along with their Artisan Pizza Oven 90
Anova WiFi
Thermometers
Thermapen Mk4 - ThermaQ High Temp Kit - ThermaQ Meathead Kit - ThermaQ WiFi - ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S - ThermoWorks Signals & Billows - ThermoPop -ThermoWorks ProNeedle - ThermoWorks TimeStick Trio x2 - and a Christopher Kimball timer - NO, I do not work for ThermoWorks...I just like their products.
Other useful bits...
KitchenAid 7-qt Pro Line stand mixer
A Black & Decker food processor that I can't seem to murder
A couple of immersion blenders, one a "consumer" model & the other a "high end" Italian thing. Yes, the Italian one is a bit better, but only marginally
Instant Pot Duo Evo Plus 8-qt + accessories like egg-bite & egg holders
All-Clad pots & pans, along with some cast iron...everything from 7" Skookie pans to 8.5qt Dutch ovens
Weber GBS griddle, pizza stone, and wok
Knives range from Mercer to F. Dick to "You spent how much for one knife? One knife?!" LOL
I love mine and agree that it’s a game changer. Whether in kettle mode or komado it does both well...and right out of the box.
Yeah, it’s a little spendy but no worse than a ceramic with all the bells & whistles. And it takes up less space than two cookers, if that’s important to you.
One of the selling point for me over ceramic is the weight. I’m kind of a nomad at heart and tend not to stay in one place for years on end...I can’t imagine trying to drag a big ceramic komado every time I pulled up stakes. I have the "Grilling Center"...put it together by myself and haven’t looked back.
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Having said that. Will it replace everything? No, but that wasn’t the point for me...despite how much I love the versatility. I’ll still keep my others, but see no need presently to look at other basic grills (kettles et al), komados, or smokers. I’ve pretty much got everything I need covered at this point.
Oh..."by myself" was just to illustrate that it doesn’t take two guys and an engine hoist. LOLLast edited by surfdog; November 12, 2018, 09:11 AM.
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I have used a PBC for three or so years, and added a WSCGC a few months ago. The thing is awesome - I can't believe how well it holds temps when it it dialed in (a problem I had with my PBC), and its fuel efficiency is incredible. I have the ABC BBQ triple play for it, as well as a vortex. The PBC is great, and I still use it to throw on a few slabs of ribs, but the WSCGC is my go to on long cooks.
The versatility of the WSCGC is a lot of fun too. Still need to practice a little more with the SnS, but so far so good.
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