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Great topic! And great ideas on searing in the WSCGC!
I have done several steaks on my Summit Charcoal and have come to a method something similar to this, but I don't have a SNS I usually sous vide (especially with steaks of varying size and thickness) then sear instead of full reverse sear but have done both. I have been filling my indirect charcoal baskets completely full and setting the grate high with them both crammed over to one side to get close to the SNS indirect and "after burner" set up for searing. It seems to get the steaks an inch or two above the coals and gets a very similar sear.
The limits of this versus the SNS are that I think doing the indirect portion might not work quite as well since the baskets are open on the side facing the steaks before going on the direct side so things may not heat quite as uniformly and the SNS has a bit more searing square footage. I may consider adding something in the baskets to reflect heat from the side that faces the steaks to isolate a bit more.
Also very interested in results of smoking in 2 ways, SNS offset method versus the standard WSCG set up. Curious if it comes out like the Babyback Maniac side by side comparison.
Don't you end up with 2 grills that need cleaning when you're done? The small grate on top looks like it would be a nightmare to clean. I suppose you'll tell me it comes out fine in the dishwasher.
I usually bring food out to the grill on a plate, or a 15" pizza pan, but it doesn't get heated, so it's easy to clean.
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:
8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
Actually, jgg85234 , since the meat is only cooked on that wire grate for under an hour low ’n slow, the grate is no more dirty than it is when using it for the dry brine portion. The meat doesn't really stick to it. And yes, it goes in the dishwasher which is where it would go anyway after the dry brine step. I see using it as one less dirty dish.
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:
8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
I smoked ribs last night using the SnS and my WSCGC. It was an easy call for me, since DH does not really like smoked ribs (wha???, I know. Go figure.), so he got Joule sous vide pork chops seared on the SnS at the end. Boy was that a handy feature of using the SnS at the tail end of a slow cook!
The biggest thing I learned was that the WSCGC is as sensitive to lid leaks as a kettle (apparently) is when used with the SnS. I kept scratching my head, wondering why temperature control in the first hour was so sketchy. Then I twigged to the fact that a bit of smoke leaks out where the thermometer probes feed in. The minute I foiled those sections of the WSCGC with 3 inch strips of aluminum foil, the temp stabilized beautifully.
Thing is, when used in kamado mode, the WSCGC doesn't care much if there's an itty bitty leak around the probe cables. But when using as a kettle with the SnS, be aware.
Remember, though, that this is early days, so I'm sure to learn more about this combo as I continue to use it.
So the ribs? Yummy as usual. Gosh I love SLC ribs. I honestly can't figure out why husband doesn't. Well, I can. He hates touching his food with his fingers, and doesn't like meat on the bone. Poor guy. I keep telling him he doesn't know what he's missing, but he just gives me that "look". You guys know what I'm talking about. That look. For me, eating ribs is akin to the fun of chowing down on a honker of a slice of salted watermelon, with juice running down your arms and dripping off your elbows. What a great feeling. Not so much for my sweet husband, though.
Anyway, ribs.
Last night's cook, SnS with water in the trough:
Looking good, right?
Compared to a previous rib cook, babybacks with WSCGC in kamado mode with no water pan:
another WSCGC in kamado-mode rib cook:
I've never been thrilled with the smoke ring on the WSCGC's results. It's there, but just barely, not very deep. And where I live, I run with big dogs who like to see a serious smoke ring. I know that smoke rings are just that--smoke and mirrors--but gosh they're pretty. And I like them. I want them.
The smoke ring on the WSCGC + SnS cook was downright pretty. It almost goes down to the bone. Lordy.
The flavor/tenderness/juiciness? Just as good with either method, as I recall. I've always loved ribs on the WSCGC. I love 'em on my PBC too. And now I love them with the SnS. Maybe I'm too easy with respect to rib flavor???
So once again, I chalk this up into the win column for the SnS, just because those ribs were so doggone pretty to look at. They ate good too.
Weber Kettle -- 22.5" (In-Service Date June 2015)
Slow-n-Sear/Drip-n-Griddle/Grill Grates (In-Service Date March 2016)
Pit Boss 820 (Retired)
GMG Jim Bowie WiFi (In-Service Date April 2017)
Maverick ET-733
Fireboard
Home-brewer
Your write-ups are among the best on this site in terms of detail, humor and personal anecdotes.
For my first PBC cook I treated your meticulously detailed lighting instructions like a bible and had a top-3 rib cook ever (I've done a LOT of rib cooks) with my first time ever using that device.
Thank you for taking the effort to document and share your cooking voyages. Some of the information you've provided is invaluable.
Your write-ups are among the best on this site in terms of detail, humor and personal anecdotes.
For my first PBC cook I treated your meticulously detailed lighting instructions like a bible and had a top-3 rib cook ever (I've done a LOT of rib cooks) with my first time ever using that device.
Thank you for taking the effort to document and share your cooking voyages. Some of the information you've provided is invaluable.
I understand how you feel about your husband not eating ribs - my wife will not eat ribs either. Says it is too much work.. I love her but I ain't going to always understand her.
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