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First cook on WSCG - Pork Shoulder / Boston Butt

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    First cook on WSCG - Pork Shoulder / Boston Butt

    Ok, so while this will be my first cook on the WSCG, I did fire it up last night. Using just the charcoal baskets and the fuel grate at the grill setting (higher elevation), I lit it up. It took about 10 minuets of having the gas assist on before the charcoal started really going. It then, with vents wide open, proceeded to reach temperatures in excess of 600 F before I backed the bottom vent down to the smoke setting and closed the top vent 1/2 way. Now this only brought the temps down to the 450 range before I had to shut it down completely (had to go to my Daughter's science fair).

    One thing I noted is that my Rapidfire lid damper, was moving easy before the cook. After it got up to 600 F, it began to "stick" meaning it took much more effort to rotate the daisy wheel. I thought this was due to thermal expansion, but once the grill completely cooled I still noticed this. I wrote to Weber this morning to see if this was common and if there was some maintenance I should do to bring it back to its original ease of use.

    Ok, now on to the cook. First, you must understand that this is not a Performer, nor is it a WSM. This is its own beast! I am learning that it operates quite differently ( as was expected, but not fully anticipated). I will go into more detail about what I mean as I describe this first cook.

    I started the cook this morning around 6:30, when I first salted my 13 lb pork shoulder. I went outside to start the fire. I removed the charcoal baskets, lowered the fuel grate to the bottom level and began putting the coals and the wood together:



    Next, I remembered what Tony R did, which was to put foil on the defuser plate, to keep it clean. I like easy to clean, so I followed his example and placed it in the bowl.



    Ok, here is where things get interesting. I started up the gas assist, and remembering my experience from the previous night but trying to account for the fuel being on the lower grate and closer to the burner, I turned on the gas for 5 minuets. While it was going, I went back in side and applied Oakridge's Competition Beef and Pork rub to the shoulder. It took about 5 minuets and when I came back out to check on the fire, it was really going (lots of smoke), and the grill was already up to 125F. I shut the Rapidfire lid damper to 1/2 and put the bottom vent on the smoke setting, just to the left. I am targeting between 250 f and 275 f. Well, the temp really took off on me. It just kept climbing and climbing, no reduction in the vent openings seemed to make a difference. It climbed all the way up to 340 f, before I had to take my Son to a school function. Before leaving, I clamped down on the vents leaving just the slightest openings thinking that when I came back It would be down below 275. Wrong! I returned after 1 hour with the temp at 425 F. I was totally confused, so I shut the grill down completely, it took about 45 minuets to fall down to 260 F, at which time I put the meat in and opened the Rapidfire lid damper 1/4 and the bottom vents to 1/2 way between smoke and shut off.



    After putting the meat on the temp fell to 215F, but then started to slowly rise. This time I watched it intently, made adjustments, and after about 30 minuets, I got it settled between 257 -265F. That is where it is now and has been there for the last hour. So what went wrong initially? I suspect I kept the gas assist on for two long. I further suspect that once you allow a certain level of fire going it is somewhat self sustaining as the draft it creates is maintained even when the vents are closed substantially. Next time, when I see the temperature excursions that I saw this morning, I will be quick to shut the vents completely until I get the grill down below my set temperature, and then slowly bring it back.

    Anyway, this has been my experience so far. I will continue to post as I get through my cook.

    #2
    wbzipf : I have done a couple pork shoulders and a brisket on my Weber Summit Charcoal. If I want to cook low and slow (225-250 range), this is what I have been doing: I get about a quarter of a chimney of briquettes lit up until they are grey in colour. Then I add three or four scoops (from the scoop that comes with the cooker) to the charcoal grate on the lowest elevation. I spread the quarter chimney of coals around on top of the unlit coal and place the heat deflector.

    Then I open the bottom damper to the "smoke" setting and open the wheel fully on the top damper, and go inside and take the meat out of the fridge and apply rub, etc. I'll keep an eye on the cooker temp. Once it gets to around 210-220, I'll go and add the meat to the cooker, get the thermometers in place, etc. At this point I close the bottom damper to somewhere between the "smoke" and "closed" positions and I close the top wheel to 1/4 to 1/8 open and keep an eye on the temp.

    The temp of the meat will bring the cooker temp down for a bit, but within 15 minutes it is usually back at about 225. From there I have found it is just fine tuning to lock it in at a temperature. Just make sure that you check the cooker when there is nothing in it, so that you know how far the bottom damper can be manipulated before you close it completely.

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      wbzipf commented
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      Thanks for the response and your suggestions.

    #3
    The damper on our test model stuck after I fired up the grill for the first time. It progressively loosened up and after a few cooks the problem resolved itself. We asked Weber about this and they felt it was an isolated incident. The good news is, after extensive testing, this has not recurred. For low and slow temps, I found treating the SCG like a kamado worked best for me. Start charcoal with the lid up, spread coal and insert the diffusor, close lid and immediately shut the intake and exhaust dampers down to slits, allowing only a small amount of airflow. I describe this in my review under the "Smoking" section: http://amazingribs.com/bbq_equipment_reviews_ratings/grill-smoker-combination-grill-smoker/weber-summit-charcoal-grill
    Then let the temp come up to 225. Even though the Summit will switch temp gears faster then a ceramic kamado, I preferred taking the time to let the temp rise to a stable level rather that spending more time going up and down to dial in the desired number.
    I'm sure using a chimney or fire starters will work as well.

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      wbzipf commented
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      You know, as the day went on, the Rapidfire lid damper really loosened up. Not quite as smooth as it was before my first cook, but much improved! Thanks for sharing that experiance.
      Last edited by wbzipf; May 15, 2016, 04:23 AM.

    #4
    Ok, well dispite the early trouble keeping temps, everything turned out fine with my cook. After I got the temperature settled around 260, I let it cook for a total of 3 hours (up to 142 f) at which time I added a little chicken broth to the bottom of the pan and foiled. I also stirred up the coals, added a couple scoops more of coal, and let it the WSCG get up to 274 f. That is when the magic began. Once it hit 274 f, it litterly stayed within +/- 1 degree for the next 3 hours. The temperature of the meat climbed fast and after the 3 hours my Maverick was reading 202f. I placed my thermal pen in a couple spots and found it read about 190 f. I then put the Maverick in the spot where the thermal pen read 190 f and let that spot get up to 202 f, it didn't take that long. I did question the done eas of the meat, but everyone was hungry so I pulled it and let it rest, tented, for about 30 minuets. These are the results:





    All in all the cook went well. The meat was a bit under done (some parts fell off the bone, other areas required some pull) but it tasted good on a sandwich.

    I learned a lot in this first cook! The three things I love most about the WSCG are: 1) How stable the WSCG held temperature, once it was dialed in! 2) the level of precision that the Rapid damper lid allows you to dial in temperatures. 3) the real estate, I mean I have never owned a grill/ smoker that I could place a full size reasurant pan in. That is way cool as I like to cook in the disposable pans, they keep the mess in the grill to a minimum.

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      #5
      Nice ! Wtg!

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        #6
        Great job, great experiences to share too! Thank you. We're learning a lot from the new WSC owners!

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          #7
          Wow that bone was screaming, "Mista, mista, get me outta here!!"

          On a side note, "I think I just killed that mista mista lady."

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            #8
            Now THAT looks good!

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              #9
              You did a great job and that's some beautiful pulled pork. Always fun to learn a new grill/smoker, and thank you for sharing.

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                #10
                That's what we Okies call "DROOLICIOUS!"

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