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**Huskee** · October 20, 2026, 06:39 AM

I doubt it will be 100% as good, but only one way to find out... I've had OTT chili and it was amazing for about 5 or 6 bites, then it got old real quick, it was just too much. Granted, YMMV based on how smokey the meat is allowed to get. I have not attempted it again since.

**jjdbike** · October 20, 2026, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by Huskee View Post

I doubt it will be 100% as good, but only one way to find out... I've had OTT chili and it was amazing for about 5 or 6 bites, then it got old real quick, it was just too much. Granted, YMMV based on how smokey the meat is allowed to get. I have not attempted it again since.

Thanks,

Can you please unpack what you mean by "too much"? Do you mean it is too smokey?

JD

**Purc** · October 20, 2026, 06:59 AM

I'm also a big fan of Meat Church products. I have never used his chili seasoning. He is in the business of selling bulk seasoning to the food industry and to us retail customers so if it wasn't good and selling, why would he keep it as dead inventory. Also, he states if you order from his website, he has the freshest products possible.

As always, YMMV.

BTW, this week is the MeatUp in Arlington, Texas and we are planning a trip to the newly expanded Meat Church store in Waxahachie, TX.

**Lynn Dollar** · October 20, 2026, 07:59 AM

We tried Matt's Texas Chili seasoning a few years ago, and while I like Matt's seasonings a lot, this one had too much heat. My wife greatly disliked it, I found it tolerable but not something I wanted again.

**Michael_in_TX** · October 20, 2026, 08:05 AM

I did this once and it was okay. For me -- and this might be the same for you -- I am not a huge fan of ground beef chili unless it is very thick. (Like think Wolf Brand.) The chorizo and short rib chili I did Sunday worked for me as after four hours of simmering the chorizo effectively disintegrated.

I'm a huge fan of Matt's products and next time I do my Texas Red, I do plan on using his chili seasoning. His stuff is legit. I go through more Holy Cow than should be legal. It's my AP seasoning. (I use that stuff on everything except chicken and seafood.) Love Holy Voodoo on wings. I don't do too much with his sweeter seasonings as that isn't a flavor profile I prefer.

One thing I think he does very well with his seasonings is he has primary flavors and then some secondary, background flavors. I want to give his lemon pepper and Jalpeño Blanco a try soon.

**jjdbike** · October 20, 2026, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Michael_in_TX View Post

I did this once and it was okay. For me -- and this might be the same for you -- I am not a huge fan of ground beef chili unless it is very thick. (Like think Wolf Brand.) The chorizo and short rib chili I did Sunday worked for me as after four hours of simmering the chorizo effectively disintegrated.

I'm a huge fan of Matt's products and next time I do my Texas Red, I do plan on using his chili seasoning. His stuff is legit. I go through more Holy Cow than should be legal. It's my AP seasoning. (I use that stuff on everything except chicken and seafood.) Love Holy Voodoo on wings. I don't do too much with his sweeter seasonings as that isn't a flavor profile I prefer.

One thing I think he does very well with his seasonings is he has primary flavors and then some secondary, background flavors. I want to give his lemon pepper and Jalpeño Blanco a try soon.

Thanks!
I am being pulled back to the short rib & marrow chili simply because its was so good. On the other hand, I'm shying any from all of that work.

I love garlic and jalapeño blanco!

Cheers!
JD

**jayjordan** · October 20, 2026, 08:27 AM

I have a couple of bags of MC chili seasoning. Used it last time I made chili with cubed chuck. I don’t use it every time though, mostly when I want to make a quick batch of chili.

**jjdbike** · October 20, 2026, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Michael_in_TX View Post

I did this once and it was okay. For me -- and this might be the same for you -- I am not a huge fan of ground beef chili unless it is very thick. (Like think Wolf Brand.) The chorizo and short rib chili I did Sunday worked for me as after four hours of simmering the chorizo effectively disintegrated.

I'm a huge fan of Matt's products and next time I do my Texas Red, I do plan on using his chili seasoning. His stuff is legit. I go through more Holy Cow than should be legal. It's my AP seasoning. (I use that stuff on everything except chicken and seafood.) Love Holy Voodoo on wings. I don't do too much with his sweeter seasonings as that isn't a flavor profile I prefer.

One thing I think he does very well with his seasonings is he has primary flavors and then some secondary, background flavors. I want to give his lemon pepper and Jalpeño Blanco a try soon.

I’m considering requesting my local meat counter to do a custom extra course grind of brisket & rib meat.

It’ll have the connective tissue and deep beefy flavor without having to babysit it on the smoker all day.

JD

**realdocBBQ** · October 20, 2026, 08:54 AM

I like Meat Church and Matt Pittman - but about beans in chili, he's made numerous comments about how you sit when you pee or that kind of thing. That's ok, he's entitled to his opinion. I thought it was funny, though, when he had one of his good friends and idols on (an old singer, I can't remember his name) and he asked him about beans in his chili, the old guy said he was a fan of beans in his chili. What did Matt say? Crickets.... of course. lol He didn't want to offend his guest, but I found it pretty funny.

Anyways... Team Beans In Chili for me.

<edit> I went back and found the video - it was Robert Earl Keen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9OrsjtGDgA

It's right at the 10 minute mark, and Matt asks him straight out and Robert says, "Beans." 100%. No ambiguity to it. And Matt was just like, "Okay, okay." Nothing. lol

I dunno, I just found it funny, considering his previous comments in chili videos about beans and how it reflected on the man who chose them.

If ya'll meet Matt at the shop when you are there this weekend, I BEG you to ask him why he didn't call out Robert Earl Keen about preferring beans in chili! PLEASE! lol

Anyways, carry on....

**jjdbike** · October 20, 2026, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by realdocBBQ View Post

I like Meat Church and Matt Pittman - but about beans in chili, he's made numerous comments about how you sit when you pee or that kind of thing. That's ok, he's entitled to his opinion. I thought it was funny, though, when he had one of his good friends and idols on (an old singer, I can't remember his name) and he asked him about beans in his chili, the old guy said he was a fan of beans in his chili. What did Matt say? Crickets.... of course. lol He didn't want to offend his guest, but I found it pretty funny.

Anyways... Team Beans In Chili for me.

<edit> I went back and found the video - it was Robert Earl Keen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9OrsjtGDgA

It's right at the 10 minute mark, and Matt asks him straight out and Robert says, "Beans." 100%. No ambiguity to it. And Matt was just like, "Okay, okay." Nothing. lol

I dunno, I just found it funny, considering his previous comments in chili videos about beans and how it reflected on the man who chose them.

If ya'll meet Matt at the shop when you are there this weekend, I BEG you to ask him why he didn't call out Robert Earl Keen about preferring beans in chili! PLEASE! lol

Anyways, carry on....

Agreed,
Pretty funny.
Okay, team beans here too. What kind of beans?
JD

**wrgilb** · October 20, 2026, 09:16 AM

I used his recipe last year for my first chili cook-off, but I smoked a tri-tip the day before and added that as an additional meat component. We won the cook-off with this and I'm retiring as an undefeated champion.

**klflowers** · October 20, 2026, 11:35 AM

I am a big Meat Church fan too. The Gospel is my go to, along with Holy Voodoo, Blanco and Hail Mary, despite the fact that the Hail Mary was made for the Cowboys. I haven't tried the chili seasoning though; I probably won't as I prefer using my own. Of course, since I never write it down, it is always different.

I went to the old store in Waxahachie back in the spring and I bought far too much. I look forward to visiting the new location on my next TX trip. Hopefully I will be able to exercise some restraint

**Troutman** · October 20, 2026, 03:17 PM

"There is no substitutes for time and doing it right. There are no true shortcuts in life."

That wise sage, Troutman

**58limited** · October 20, 2026, 05:58 PM

Honestly, I make this chili with ground beef every year and it is really good: https://pitmaster.amazingribs.com/fo...31#post1325331

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