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    Kenji + Vortex = Perfect Chicken

    I've been developing a case of GAS ever since I joined this club. I went and bought myself a Vortex for my 22" Weber Master-Touch. I've used it twice now, and I am hooked. It's worth every penny I paid for it. The first time was chicken wings, tonight it was chicken thighs. I used the same setup both times: full chimney of fully lit Kingsford Professional in the Vortex, chunk of wood on the grate over the Vortex, top and bottom vents wide open, and the dome temp sticking between 500-550F. Both times the results have been crispy and succulent, and have disappeared with no leftovers.I think I owe it all to the Serious Eats recipe for "The Best Oven-Fried Chicken Wings".

    Operating on the understanding that the Vortex basically turns my kettle into a convection oven, I decided to use this recipe as a starting point. It calls for dry brining the wings in a mixture of 50-50 kosher salt and baking powder before cooking, so I did that for about 16 hours each time. For the wings, it took about 35 minutes for them to be perfectly crisped on the outside, and I didn't even have to flip them. Once they were done, half went into a traditional Buffalo sauce and half went into a garlic parmesan butter sauce. I made eight pounds of wings for six teenagers. Gone. Kids circling the back porch looking for more before they would believe me when I told them that I didn't have another batch on the grill.

    For the thighs tonight, I experimented a little. I used the same ratio of meat (1 lb) to salt (5g) to baking powder (5g), but I added a half-part each of garlic powder and black pepper. For 12 lb of thighs, that became 60g salt, 60g baking powder, 30g garlic, and 30 g pepper. I also made a batch of white sauce from the "Big Bob's" recipe on the free side. In 45 minutes, the thighs hit an IT of 190F and the skin was beautifully brown and ASMR-scrape-your-knife-on-it crispy. They tasted great. I think I would leave off the garlic and pepper from the dry brine if I make the white sauce again, because that ended up being kind of a double-dose of those spices, but all in all the results were pretty damned good. 24 thighs, six teenagers, two adults, and nothing left.

    I don't think I'll grill chicken wings or dark meat any other way from now on. It's too easy and too good with this combo of the Vortex and the dry brining.

    Do any of you have never-fail recipes or techniques for chicken the Vortex?


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    #2
    Vortex is absolutely awesome with chicken, only way to go! If you really want to kick the temp to a notch, crack the lid open just a bit. I routinely hit 600 doing that. Otherwise, Attjack has a great recipe for 'kettle fried chicken.' It's a favorite in our household.

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    • Troutman
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      That kettle fried recipe by Attjack is legit 👍

    #3
    With a GBS grate like that, you can create a rippin' hot wok station if you don't have a high btu output propane rig. There were some other hardware games going on here that don't apply to what you show, but focus on the grate and vortex interactions.


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    Inverting the Vortex you can also have a nice, though space limited for feeding a horde of teenagers, yakatori station.

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      #4
      Yep, that combo works great! I don’t have the vortex, but I use my SNS and get great chicken. The other recipe, fried chicken on the grill I’ve used Attjack recipe/method for fried chicken and it’s amazing! Crispy chicken that uses no grease!

      Here’s Attjack’s Kettle Fried Vortex Chicken Thighs:

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      great looking chicken you have as well!

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        Chicken in the stick burner

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        • MsTwiggy
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          This is naughty of you puttin’ yer stick burner cook here, but thats a purty birdy. . . Oh yes she is 🔥🔥🐿️

        #6
        Originally posted by PGH_RAM View Post
        I've been developing a case of GAS ever since I joined this club. I went and bought myself a Vortex for my 22" Weber Master-Touch. I've used it twice now, and I am hooked. It's worth every penny I paid for it. The first time was chicken wings, tonight it was chicken thighs. I used the same setup both times: full chimney of fully lit Kingsford Professional in the Vortex, chunk of wood on the grate over the Vortex, top and bottom vents wide open, and the dome temp sticking between 500-550F. Both times the results have been crispy and succulent, and have disappeared with no leftovers.I think I owe it all to the Serious Eats recipe for "The Best Oven-Fried Chicken Wings".

        Operating on the understanding that the Vortex basically turns my kettle into a convection oven, I decided to use this recipe as a starting point. It calls for dry brining the wings in a mixture of 50-50 kosher salt and baking powder before cooking, so I did that for about 16 hours each time. For the wings, it took about 35 minutes for them to be perfectly crisped on the outside, and I didn't even have to flip them. Once they were done, half went into a traditional Buffalo sauce and half went into a garlic parmesan butter sauce. I made eight pounds of wings for six teenagers. Gone. Kids circling the back porch looking for more before they would believe me when I told them that I didn't have another batch on the grill.

        For the thighs tonight, I experimented a little. I used the same ratio of meat (1 lb) to salt (5g) to baking powder (5g), but I added a half-part each of garlic powder and black pepper. For 12 lb of thighs, that became 60g salt, 60g baking powder, 30g garlic, and 30 g pepper. I also made a batch of white sauce from the "Big Bob's" recipe on the free side. In 45 minutes, the thighs hit an IT of 190F and the skin was beautifully brown and ASMR-scrape-your-knife-on-it crispy. They tasted great. I think I would leave off the garlic and pepper from the dry brine if I make the white sauce again, because that ended up being kind of a double-dose of those spices, but all in all the results were pretty damned good. 24 thighs, six teenagers, two adults, and nothing left.

        I don't think I'll grill chicken wings or dark meat any other way from now on. It's too easy and too good with this combo of the Vortex and the dry brining.

        Do any of you have never-fail recipes or techniques for chicken the Vortex?


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        I see 10 in the pick out of your 24 thighs... Did you do max out at 10 at once, for space reasons?

        Has anybody tried similar stuff on an 18" Kamado Joe? (that's what I have)

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        • LA Pork Butt
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          I haven’t, but it will work. You need to get the correct size vortex. I use one on my 18” Weber, but will it will work on my 18” BGE I don’t want to mess with the drippings on my BGE.

        • PGH_RAM
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          nikolausp this was the second batch. I fit 14 thighs in one circle on the first round.

        #7
        Looks great!!! Suggestion: I'd pull the cast iron grate insert out and protect the seasoning on your iron, no food is going on it anyway.

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          #8
          This sub-channel is very timely for me, especially since I just received a vortex!!! PGH_RAM all
          of your chicken here is 💯💰💵🤩 !!!! I can’t wait to do this with thighs and report back. Thanks so much for the inspiration.🔥🔥🐿️

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            #9
            I’ve been hemming and hawing about a true vortex. I have been using a faux vortex setup to get by. (Jeopardy theme in the background)

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            • hoovarmin
              hoovarmin commented
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              Buy it now!

            • MsTwiggy
              MsTwiggy commented
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              Yeah lets go SheilaAnn 🔥🔥🐿️

            #10
            The Vortex turns the grill into a wing cookin’ machine!
            Easily one of the best accessories ever.
            I use mine on my WSCG, but the other kettles work on exactly the same principle. I NEVER hesitate to suggest getting one.

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              #11
              Anybody have any suggestions / tips for doing these perfect Vortex "fried" chicken thighs (bone-in) on my 18" Original Kamado Classic? I recently bought a Vortex for it. Upper / Bottom Vent hole positions, how high to keep the food grate level above the Vortex opening, time / dome temps, etc, etc?

              Any ideas / suggestions would be appreciated. It seems most of the info here is for the Weber Kettle with the Vortex.
              Last edited by nikolausp; February 15, 2024, 06:43 PM.

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              • SheilaAnn
                SheilaAnn commented
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                nikolausp copy that. I haven’t looked yet, did you ask this in the Kamado Cooker thread? I betcha there’s a better chance for feedback. Hopping over now….

              • surfdog
                surfdog commented
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                You don’t want the Rapidfire lid/vent all the way open. Too much heat will shoot straight up and out. Barely open is fine…and make adjustments at the bottom. Other than that, it works exactly like any other kettle. Their top vents are offset which is why they can be setup slightly different. So any video/recipe can be easily adapted to the WSCG/Kamado.

                Thought this was asking about the Weber version… It’s still valid if your vent is centered. The idea is to get a good convection action going.
                Last edited by surfdog; February 15, 2024, 09:36 PM. Reason: Hopefully for clarity.

              • nikolausp
                nikolausp commented
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                Ok thanks for the thoughts on that, surfdog . That point you made about Offset vs centered top Vent makes sense , and I never thought about that. I will try this soon. Thanks again for taking they time to explain. 👍🏼

              #12
              Kenji now also adds corn starch to the above recipe, (same amount as the salt and BP).

              About 1:10 in - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh2AXh1eRmE

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                #13
                I tried this tonight🔥🌪️🔥 long story short i walked away to trim some brussel sprouts and when i returned 7 min later the thighs were perfectly cooked but the skin was 100% black carbon. 🤬 oopsie, will not walk away next time. She gets real
                hot. We still ate ‘em but 😥 a missed opportunity. No pic of my ugly chicken 😂🔥🔥🐿️
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                • Uncle Bob
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                  "100% black carbon". That mean the skin was crisp? Isn't that the goal?

                #14
                Great looking chicken. Nothing like making the kids happy with the grill!

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                  #15
                  Looks fantastic! Grandson brought six of his friends to headquarter out of our house for a camping trip this past summer. Get the amount of food that you think you require then multiply it by 3 and you'll be close for that age group.

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