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    I broke it!!!!!!!!!!!

    OMG! I broke it wide open. I'll never buy sauces or any such again!

    I was playing with my caramel ideas. We had hamburgers last night and all this lovely sear stuck to the pan and the juices still there, the Y has a habit of immediately running water in the pan to 'soak' it clean.

    Nope, don't do that, this time.

    You see, I spent yesterday cooking down a quart of my home mad stock. I won't go through that cause I've alreasdy written about making my beef stock with the blade of the flat front he cow's shoulder, blah blah blah.

    So, yesterday, I cooked down a frozen quart of the stock I made all the way until there was no oil and it all converted t caramel.

    warning, if this cools in your pan or you put it in a jar and the fridge, depending on how far you cooked it, it may set up like hard candy. don't panic. THAT is a good thing. all you need to do is put the pan with the now stuck n or the jar with the set up stuff on the stove (A jar in a small skillet waterbath on low) and it will go right back to liquid. now, just deglaze. just follow your normal deglazing techniques.

    in my case, since I had two pans and a jar, I started simmering off the jar t make it liquid, then with a heatproof small spatula scraped it back into the saucier I used to cook it down. then, heated up the burger skillet from last night and deglazed with a few tablespoons of my home made red wine vinegar. pulled the yummy RIGHT up and THAT gets scraped up and tossed into the saucier with the cooked down broth. now the magic begins. start by adding enough water back to it to make it a workable liquid. yes, we cooked all the water out yesterday. that was necessary to convert sugars and cooks the meat proteins to create the sear flavor in the sauce.

    If you have ever watched a short order cook in a diner, you see him constantly scraping down the flat top. scrubbing off the seared on flavor with all his might and washing it down a funnel to a bucket waiting below. Anyone who has worked in a diner or fast food store knows that stuff gets sold to 'renderers'. well, the renderer is the guy who processes that stuff then sends it to Heinze to make Steak Sauce, my friend. save your scrapings and make your own! just deglaze each time you make something in a skillet and pour it into a jar whenever you cook (if you don't g ahead and put that degalze into a sauce for your meal at hand, which you really should). then, when the jar is full or you just feel like it, scrape it all out ito a pan and make your base master sauce, which you can then use any time folks come over to eat. and when they ask, "What is that sauce?" you can tell them it is 'house made'.

    from here, it's all downhill. add salt & pepper and NUTMEG, never forget the nutmeg!! still don't know why but it is the secret ingredient to amazing meat!

    now, you'll want to play with this sauce the same way you play with your BBQ sauce. add a few spices here, adjust a little there until you have the amazing meat sauce YOU love. I'm waiting to hear back from the Y about where he stashed my last two Vidalias. I think they may be in the freezer. I'm going to saute them into some schmaltz (yup, I'm mixing my animals like Dr Moreau!) with some garlic and toss that in, maybe some corriander. if you are the kind of person who likes mustard, make some quick, easy home made mustard (Understanding the triggers and the freezes of mustard making, cold water & vinegar, then add the home made mustard to your liking, if you lean toward tomatoes, toss in a scoop of paste.

    once you learn to manipulate and make the meat caramel and use it as your base, you can make any sauce you want and Heinze is out of business!!!

    WOO HOO!! I'm off to make steak sauce which I plan to mix with some cow, bambi and Babe for a batch of Meat Pies, tonight!!

    #2
    PS, for the competitors like CandySueQ use this method with a batch of home made chicken stock, make yourself some home made pork stock, even mix your meat stocks, add in some venison stock, add a little beefy to the porky or vice versa, to make all your various sauces for competition. put some duck in your chicken sauce, or some turkey. the possibilities are endless!

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      #3
      actually, I think I am f\ging to start cooking all of my stocks down to nearly nothing and storing the concentrate in jars so all I need for a recipe is a spoonful of whatever has been requested for broth or stock and add water. saves a LOT of freezer space!

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      • CandySueQ
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        You suppose it will can? I don't know why not.

      • Karon Adams
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        You likely can but why? hard candy doesn't go bad and that is basically what this is. it's a meat lollipop. you'll know what i mean once you cook down those butts.

      #4
      This will be a good project to experiment with! SWMBO will have serious reservations , but when the boys are home, I'll be able to justify it! Thanks for the ideas.

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        #5
        Karon Adams ... the Queen of sauces.👍😜

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        • CandySueQ
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          Hear, hear!

        #6
        I did try your caramelized gelatin method (CGM?) yesterday, with the gelatin I saved from sous vide chicken thighs. Not served with anything, ...just wanted to play. Had a ramekin full of the meat jelly, and simmered over low heat as you described. Ended up with about a tablespoon (or less) of sweet & salty umami syrup. Pretty intense!!

        Thanks for the tip!!

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        • Karon Adams
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          now take that and build on it.

        #7
        Reading this thread with avid interest. Do you store the jars in the fridge or freezer? Will the stuff go bad? Also, I must ask, what/who is "the Y"? Dying to know!
        Last edited by GirlpoweredBBQ; April 6, 2017, 05:05 PM.

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        • Karon Adams
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          Yes, I usually store it in the fridge if I don't use it immediately. The Y is my husband. the one with the Y Chromosome.

        • Karon Adams
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          You can cook the broth/stock all the way down and it becomes like a meat lollipop. hard candy. in r out of a jar, that's gonna hold pretty indefintely in a fridge. you can also pour it off to ice cubes and store portions which will base future batches of smaller batch suaces

        • GirlpoweredBBQ
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          OMG, that's hilarious (the "Y"). Love it! I may have to start using it!

        #8
        Reading through old cookbooks, i ran across ALMOST what I have done but close as may as well be. Mrs Beeton talks, in her book, she talks about "Essences"

        "Natural juices of meat and vegetables extracted by simmering i wine and then reducing them until the flavour is concentrated and the liquid slightly thick."

        She talks about gravies being made from the dripping of the roasting tin with flour and the flour cooked to brown, like the basic roux then thinned with vegetable boiling water and cooked down.

        based on this reading, the caramel that I am doing is similar except I'm not cooking the meat in wine, just cooking the meat and cooking it all the way to roast the meat juices/meat sugars into a caramel, really making a glazed sear, that is then thinned back with wine, vinegar and other additives to make the sauce of choice.

        I cannot imagine no one has ever done this, before, I just haven't found a historical reference to it, yet. but, in the end, what I'm making is a more measured version in larger scale, of a standard pan sauce. the simple pan sauce when you take out your meat, lift the sear with acid, cook down liquid, add fat and other flavors to make pan sauce. just a bigger pan and a forced sear in the case of cooking down the dripping pan from BBQ or boiling down the liquid from stock or boiled meats.

        If anyone runs across a historical reference to this technique, I'd love to read it!

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        • kmhfive
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          Sounds like you need to develop a book deal!

        • Karon Adams
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          I would not know where to begin

        #9
        Sure there isn't some kind of commercial potential for this? Might help fund that eventual retirement!

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        • Karon Adams
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          don't I wish. but, CandySueQ and the other competitors maybe able to do something with it. doesn't do much good to learn something if you can't share it.

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ID:	302375 Got a butt and brisket plus some beef bones on the Yoder both over their own pans of water. Here's the photo of them 4 hour in. Seem really different cooking for the sauce!

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        • Karon Adams
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          did you add some gelatin sources? that's why I use pig's feet and rub them with my BBQ rub as well. you'll make good use of the meat and you'll need it to try the sauce on the meat but they blade of the shoulder and the pig's feet will generate more gel

        • EdF
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          We did an archeological expedition into our chest freezer yesterday, and among other things, found 4 trotters! Yay!

        • Karon Adams
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          How did your sauce come out?

        #11
        I did have beef rib bones under the brisket. Not under the pork and I can see where that'd make a big difference in drippings. I rendered the pork all the way down to about 2-3 tablespoons of porky essence. The beef goodness I put into sauce. Rather, I put Head Country into it. I brought that and the brisket in for lunch today for everyone to try.

        I should have taken pictures so you could guage my product, Karon Adams. I wasn't absolutely certain that I'd cooked the beef down enough to caramel, but I was getting tired!

        I tell you what -- this cook without wrapping made some good meat. It was a full 11 hour cook this way.

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          #12
          if you cooked it down to the change in bubbles, you know you're there. you can use a candy thermometer as well. just like the sugar mix that changes and starts making caramel and hard candy when the water is gone, you get the same thing and you start caramelizing the meat essence when you get to and beyond 240. once you've done it a few times, you'll be able to see the change by eye. how did you like it? that's what's most important!

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            #13
            I've got to buy another bottle of Head Country for the beef and thin that intensity down! The brisket was awesome with a bit of this swiped over the top of the slices before reheating in the microwave. I think I made it there with the pork, I beat it like crazy and got all the fat incorporated and it's the consistency of a soft boullion. Packed in a container in the frig. This is fun stuff!

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              #14
              welcome to my insanity CandySueQ !! I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!!

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                #15
                I used the magical Brisket stuff! It worked some brisket magic in Winchester, TN this past weekend! Mixed the sauce with the carmel into defatted au jus. It was tasty on Saturday and great for lunch today. And scored in the money!!!
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                • CandySueQ
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                  Cookeville, September 8-9. Last weekend was MISERABLE cooking weather! If you'd like a scenic drive, I'm likely to cook Dillard, GA August 4-5. That Ocoee River road is exciting! I go for peaches.

                • Karon Adams
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                  sign up for The Peach Truck. they do a southeast tour a couple of time a year with the MOST delicious peaches you ever tasted!

                • Karon Adams
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                  and, yes, last weekend was cold & wet. we complain but the last average frost date for ChattaVegas isn't until April 15. so, putting in my corn last Monday, I now have corn sprouting and a couple of inches taller and my first tomato plants are already blooming. I'll not complain!

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