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    Philly Cheesesteak Video

    John Markus is the producer who created BBQ Pitmasters on TV and is in the BBQ Hall of Fame. He sent me this today



    Here is the recipe to accompany the video

    Philly Cheesesteak Sandwich
    By John Markus

    In 1984 I was a fresh-faced 20-something who’d arrived on time at the Elvis Suite at Harrah’s Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. After a full minute of banging the door knocker on the oversized glossy-black double-doored entrance did the resident, feeling no need to disguise that he’d been napping, open up and invite me in. This was my first staff job writing on a television series, and its star, a famous comedian with Emmys and platinum albums, was cranky.

    Sure, I had the guts and confidence of a young ‘un, but the six foot four inch ex-football player intentionally intimidated. He’d commanded my presence in order to deliver me the bylaws of writing his show. My first contract was for three weeks only. I could’ve been let go for using the door knocker. The star expertly drew himself a cappuccino from a five foot tall brass Italian espresso machine without offering me one. The drink perked him up a bit, and the edicts began to flow: No jokes, just write The Truth. Tell a story. Don’t write the kids like they have cigars in their mouths. He gave that one after taking a huge puff on a Churchill-sized Cuban.

    To his credit, all his rules turned out to be on the money. I was the baby writer, and the show didn’t feature my name in the title. He must’ve started to like my Midwestern vibe, because 20 minutes into the meeting, he pivoted and asked if I’d ever had a Philly cheesesteak sandwich. I replied that I was raised in central Ohio and the closest I’d had were “Italian” coldcuts stuffed into hoagie rolls with a drizzle of oil, called “subs.”

    He held up his index finger, lifted the receiver of a fire engine-red phone, punched in a number and ordered four of them. A mere 25 minutes later, a paper bag with four oblong, white-wax wrapped, grease-stained torpedo-shaped rolls arrived, with a griddled beef/onion aroma so intoxicating I literally thought “If I get fired tomorrow, this will have been worth it.” The star kept three and handed me one. That’s all it took. I banged that door knocker a long long time ago. The show went off the air in 1992 but not before I won an Emmy for my writing for it. But my romance with the sublime invention from Philly has endured beyond.

    Makes. 2 hefty sandwiches
    Takes. 30 minutes to smoke the meat, 4 hours to freeze it. 30 minutes to make the cheese sauce. 20 minutes to finish it on the griddle.
    Special tools. A griddle. Two sturdy spatulas. Try to get one about 6-inches long. Mandolin slicer (I strongly recommend the Benriner brand).

    2 boneless prime ribeye steaks
    2 tablespoons each Morton Coarse Kosher Salt
    2 tablespoons coarse ground black pepper
    2 tablespoons granulated garlic
    3/4 pound high quality cheddar cheese
    1/4 pound bright orange American cheese
    1 cup half & half or milk
    2 medium size sweet onions
    2 hoagie rolls, soft inside, crunchy crust, about 6-inches long
    4 tablespoons beef tallow

    About the beef tallow. You will use this to oil the griddle. You can make tallow by melting some beef fat that you’ve trimmed from the ribeyes or other beef. When I cook a brisket or chuck roast, I trim the fat and freeze it for occasions like this. In a pinch you can use duck fat or bacon fat. You can substitute butter combined with a high smokepoint neutral vegetable oil, but when you lower yourself to those ingredients, you’ll be making sammies with noticeably less Love in them. Just sayin’.

    1| Fire up your smoker to 225°F or set up your grill in 2 zones with the indirect side at about 225°F. Get some smoke rolling. Trim off excess fat from the steaks and set the fat aside to use as tallow. Mix the salt, pepper, and garlic in a bowl and sprinkle the meat. Smoke the meat for about 30 minutes, just enough to give it some flavor but not so long as to cook it through. Let the meat cool a bit and then wrap it tightly in plastic wrap and place in your freezer for at least four hours. You want them frozen stiff enough to shave thin on the mandolin. You can do this days in advance.

    2| Make the cheese sauce. While the meat is smoking, grate the cheese on a box grater on the large holes. Set up for double boiling by placing a bowl on top of a pot with 2-inches of water in it. Turn the burner on medium high. The steam will heat the bottom of the bowl but won’t let it get too hot. Add the half & half to the bowl. Give it a few minutes to warm. Slowly add the cheese. Whisk nonstop. Expect some hand cramping, but do not wimp out. Take no breaks. Visualize eating the most delicious thing you’ve ever put in your pie hole. After 20 some minutes, the mixture will show signs of thickening. You’ll feel it. When you can write by drizzling the sauce, just a tad more and you’re there. Turn the stove to low to keep the sauce warm and give it the occasional whisk, while you move on.

    3| Prep. Dice the onions into 1/2-inch chunks. Put them in a bowl, cover, and refrigerate. Slice your loaves the long way, leaving them hinged on one side. Slice the frozen meat thin on the mandolin and be sure to use the protective guard.

    4| Practice. Pull out a clean cutting board and spend some time rehearsing your moves with the two spatulas. Use one to pin down the imaginary slices of beef, while the other pulls and shreds. Practice until you have the technique.

    5| Onions. Preheat your griddle to about 300°F. Melt a heaping tablespoon of beef tallow on it. Sautee your onions until translucent. Should take only 5-10 minutes. Push them to the sides, away from the intense heat or take them off altogether.

    6| The main act. Add the rest of the beef tallow, and just when sizzling starts add the beef. Brown one side for a minute or two then flip to brown the other. Now, working quickly, employing both spatulas, pin down the beef with one spatula, stab and pull with the other, shredding the beef. Add the onion and drizzle a couple of tablespoons of cheese sauce. Form your mixture into two columns, matching the size of bread.

    7| Finish. Open the loaves of bread and place them cut side down on top of the columns. Leave everything alone for a minute, allowing the beef to brown. With the confidence of a swordsman, in a single move, slide the 6-inch spatula under the beef, and flip the entire sammie into your hand (careful, hot oil). Drizzle on more cheese sauce. Don’t be shy, you worked your damn hand into carpal tunnel whisking this stuff. Place the whole thing on a cutting board, slice in two. Enter heaven.
    Last edited by Meathead; November 4, 2022, 03:30 PM.

    #2
    Made me hungry for a Philly cheese steak lol

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    • Brisketboy
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      Then my work was done. I hope you'll make a version of that, you'll never have anything like it! Enjoy. John M

    #3
    Great video and technique. My only comment, only Provolone cheese!

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    • Brisketboy
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      I'm totally with you on that. Many purists agree with you. I saw recipes that drizzle the cheese sauce into the griddled meat, fold it in, and THEN add provolone slices to the top of the final griddled sammich. You got options here, but stay true to Philly. Hope you'll make one. Best, JM
      Last edited by Brisketboy; April 30, 2023, 10:12 PM.

    #4
    Enjoyed that immensely!
    Love the sandwich, but won’t be going back to Philly again for their versions…

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    • Brisketboy
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      Thank you! That's the greatest compliment of all. Making the sammich at home really taught me what this famous dish can taste like. Beyond any of the ones at those landmark joints. I do hope you'll give it a try. Best, JM
      Last edited by Brisketboy; April 30, 2023, 10:12 PM.

    #5
    Thanks for sharing , that guy is a hoot, first time seeing him, and great cook and narrator. I Like this guy. Also the mouth is watering. Yum.

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    • FireMan
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      My thoughts exactly, a hoot!

    • Brisketboy
      Brisketboy commented
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      Glad you got a kick out of my effort here. Made the sammiches on three different days to get the look just right. Had lots of fun, and now I'm outside griddling all the time. Tonight I made Basmati rice combined with a stirfry of carrots, celery, and onion. Then ground pork sausage. Tomorrow morn? A giant cheddar/tomato/onion omelette. I'm now spending my mornings putting on lots of SPF! Best, John

    #6
    Glad to see he didn't put peppers on it..

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    • Brisketboy
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      I'm a purist. They'd just get in the way of those fabulous diced onions! Best, JM

    #7
    I looked really hard at a firedisk, I wish they had a stainless setup for the price. Also looked at a lot of discada's on marketplace... never got the guts to try my Spanish out to see if it's good enough to not get got

    That sammy looks killer though

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      #8
      This is the best thing I’ve seen all day. From building biceps to growin up & then to an unbelievably gorgeous sandwich. I’m thinkin I can do this on my 12” Erie. The homemade cheese spread was outstanding. A-list video. 👍👍👍

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      • Brisketboy
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        Glad you had a good time. Tip on that cheese sauce? Soak the milk/cream mixture overnight with a quartered onion or a head of peeled garlic cloves. I you like hot sauce, a quick shake of your favorite. Lots of potential flavors on that palette. I hope you'll try some version on your Erie. Best, John

      #9
      John was also a producer and writer on the Bill Cosby show and won an Emmy. And yes, I have quizzed him and he knew nothing. He is now a successful playwrite.

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        #10
        Great video. Informative AND entertaining. One more thing for the grill bucket list. I'll show this to my wife. I've been wanting to repurpose an unused gas grill into a griddle and this is just the thing that can jumpstart it conversion.

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        • Brisketboy
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          Any time I can help with the convincing of a wife regarding pro-barbecue equipment acquisitions, I'm in!! Hoping you make that gas grill repurposing. This is a sammich worth fighting for! JM

        #11
        Great video, but I had to fast forward when he was using the mandolin without a gaurd because it was making me feel faint.

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        • Brisketboy
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          Scared me, too, and I was there doing it! So, if you'll check on the cutting board, that finger guard was laying right next to the mandolin. I worked very carefully, but you're correct, it takes just one slip. And I did wear protective gloves underneart the latex.I can promise you, no piece of Markus ending up on the cutting room floor! Thanks, John

        #12
        Got cheesesteaks on the menu for tomorrow night! Going to use some SRF NY Strip slices and cook them up on the Blackstone. And most likely I will feel lazy and just use Cheez-Whiz instead of making my own cheese sauce.

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        • Brisketboy
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          I totally respect a purist, and Cheez-Whiz definitely brings those robust, tangy flavors.... Enjoy.

        #13
        Good video. Basically how my wife does it. Though I do all the chopping and slicing. She’s also an ‘American cheese’ girl. No cheese whiz.

        But what I loved was his backyard view! Oh my! Sitting in one of those Adirondack chairs, sipping on a glass of Pinot, chatting with my wife and enjoying the view……that would be priceless.

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        • Brisketboy
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          The good folks at the Wild Turkey Conservancy get all the credit. I'll say, the end of the shoot days, that's exactly what I did. Thanks for watching. Best, John

        #14
        Great video! Genus move using the mandolin to slice the semi-frozen steak.

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        • Brisketboy
          Brisketboy commented
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          Tony Cusato is where I got the idea, brand and all. Not Another Cooking Show is his channel. Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you'll make it some day soon. Best, JM

        • Brisketboy
          Brisketboy commented
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          Tony Cusato. But HE used the finger guard, which I would recommend...

        #15
        Yeah, saw the vid, made cheesesteaks.

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        • Brisketboy
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          Yes! These two mounds of goodness look like they'll make fantastic sammies. Hope you enjoyed them. Best, John

        • Elton's BBQ
          Elton's BBQ commented
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          Looks really good!

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