While it's still speculation at this point, there is a hardware store (linked, but it may get taken down) that lists a Weber Searwood 600 and a Searwood XL 600 for sale, along with a side and front shelf accessories. Below is the information on the two pellet grills that may or may not be for sale in the neat future.
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Last edited by NumbWhistle; December 29, 2023, 05:24 PM.
It looks like they are looking to cut costs and compete with a lower price point. I'm not sure this would be a compelling purchase for me. While it looks like they're trying to address some of the issues people experienced with the WoodFire, it looks like they are trying to win a race to the bottom rather than making the best pit they can. That said, I've never used a pellet cooker before, so maybe this is both the bees knees AND the cat's pajamas...
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:
8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
Curious to see this my own eyes. I saw this yesterday and just at first glance I’m not that impressed. I’m not a fan of a grease pan; I use a soup can on my Grilla. I feel like those pans will fill up pretty fast and need to be replaced more often. And in my experience they’re pretty flimsy. Can’t wait for the review either though.
The grease catcher (pull out pan/trough) on my Weber Summit gasser works great. Very sturdy and not hard to clean.
I never was drawn to the grease can idea, since there still must be grease inside the channel leading to the can? I'm talking out of my hat here, though, since I don't own a pellet cooker. But when I look at them for possible purchase, I find grease cans somehow off-putting. Perhaps you can enlighten me. I'm always eager to learn.
I have the trays on my Genesis and it works great. However, at least in my experience pellet smokers put out a lot more grease than my Genesis. The first time I did a pork belly my can overflowed. It wasn’t empty but it wasn’t more than a third full. Even when I’m not smoking any meat, like my cream cheese bricks there is still drainage into the cans. I also remove my can after every cook and store in my freezer to keep any critters out.
Even though cheaper in price, I see improvements and questions. It looks/sounds like the cook-box is cast aluminum which I haven’t experienced on a pellet grill. It seems like it would be more efficient than a thin single wall pellet grill. The legs look like a huge improvement even though only 2 wheels. I actually worried about snapping legs off the SmokeFire. The special intensity mode for grilling with the lid open sounds interesting. Thank goodness they dumped that awful narrow rear hopper that was a pain to fill and a big chunk of their initial and ongoing problems.
I don’t like the cheapening of the grates to plated crap, but that should be easily remedied if the grill is good.
Ive been looking hard for past two days to find more pics or an instructional/assembly manual to better see how the new internal design is laid out and how the new DirectFlame system works. Are they still using a unique fire pot? Did they get rid of that dumb 24V diesel glow plug? Also, haven’t seen any pics showing the exhaust. There was room for some improvement with that too.
They claim 50,000 hours of testing on this one so I hope radiodome21 is not right and the first double butt smoke doesn’t spill grease everywhere. I’m guessing that a lot of grease is going to mix with ash and have to be scraped out. With the slide out tray, I don’t think that’s a big deal though.
Draznnl Hence my comment on "testing" having some, let's say, room for interpretation.
I don't know, I wasn't there. To me "testing" means real world usage
Andrrr it's pretty common to use multiple testers and combine them for a total... we do it with labor all the time where a 4 hour job really gets billed 16 hours because 4 guys were on site. However, using your guys assumption of only 12 guys and the 2 year timeline, I'd suggest instead that this Searwood was possibly in the works the same time as the Smokefire and was intended to be a budget model, but with the uproar over the SF they made some lessons learned tweaks and hit send
I will be interested to see if that drip tray creates the same grease pooling issues like with the SmokeFire or if some foil makes for easy cleanup and solves the issue.
Searwood is an all-in-one pellet smoker/grill that produces great smoke flavor, aroma, and color whether doing low and slow ribs at 225°F or sizzling steaks at 600°F. It doesn't get hot as a charcoal grill but out-sears a number of gas grills we've tested, all while producing some of the best smoke quality we've experienced from a pellet burner. Read our detailed review.
Smokefire was a train wreck of a product. I followed all the intitial reviews, then the apologies from Weber and the promise of new and improved model.s Yet the bad reviews kept coming on their site, so many, that Weber deleted all the them at one point and started over. Suprisingly, there were some great reviews, but then you'd read a few where the grill caught on fire! At least 30% described catastrophic failures, out of control pit fires, the grill shutting off, jambed pellet chutes, and many more issues. Would love to know how all this happened, because their concept was a major leap if it worked. Likely no quality control or management that forced the product out before it could be tested and issues addressed. I've been in companies where such things can happen. Would love to see an ex Weber engineer tell us the real story!
My guess is they had enough successes in testing, and wanted to be first to have such a product with its flexibility, that the gamble was worth it to them. Initially. I agree it would be great to hear to full story there.
Huskee, if testing was done, then it was ignored or dismissed by those in the company that decided to ship anyway. With a company under fire, threats of a takeover looming, management often makes some bad decisions. This is a textbook case of a company tarnishing a once impecable reputation. Also surprised that the reviews failed to find some of the issues that surfaced, but that was just a sample of one that could be dismissed as a fluke.
Everyone seems to jump to absence of quality control. I would find that surprising that they would deviate from normal practices used in rolling out all their new products.
Rather, I would think it is more likely that it was due to their inexperience with making and quality testing pellet smokers. Along with lack of experience, adding such novel features further challenges inexperience. I imagine they hired people from the competition hoping that such mistakes, but many not the right ones.
My toys:
Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Center (WSCGC) aka Mr. Fancypants
Pit Barrel Cooker (which rocks), named Pretty Baby
Weber Summit S650 Gas Grill, named Hot 'n Fast (used mostly for searing and griddling)
Weber Kettle Premium 22" named Kettle Kid, eager to horn in with more cooks in the future
Camp Chef Somerset IV 4-burner outdoor gas range named AfterBurner due to its 30kBTU burners
Adrenaline BBQ Company Gear:
SnS Low Profile, DnG, and Large Charcoal Basket, for WSCGC
SnS Deluxe for 22" Kettle
Elevated SS Rack for WSCGC
SS Rack for DnG
Cast Iron Griddle
Grill Grate for SnS
Grill Grates: five 17.375 sections (retired to storage)
Grill Grates: six 19.25 panels for exact fit for Summit S650
gasser
Grill Grates for 22" Kettle
2 Grill Grate Griddles
Steelmade Griddle for Summit gas grill
Fireboard Gear:
Extreme BBQ Thermometer Package
Additional control unit
Additional probes: Competition Probes 1" (3) and 4" (1), 3 additional Ambient Probes. 1 additional Food Probe
2 Driver Cables
Pit Viper Fan (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Pit Viper Fan new design (to pair with Fireboard Fan Driver Cable)
Thermoworks Gear:
Thermapen MK4 (pink)
Thermapen Classic (pink too)
Thermoworks MK4 orange
Temp Test 2 Smart Thermometer
Extra Big and Loud Timer
Timestick Trio
Maverick ET 73 a little workhorse with limited range
Maverick ET 733
Maverick (Ivation) ET 732
Grill Pinz
Vortex (two of them)
18" drip pan for WSCGC
Ceramic Spacers for WSCGC in Kamado Mode: 2 sets each 1/2", 1", 2". The 2" spacers work best with the 18" drip pan. The 1+1/2 inch spacers work best with the 14 inch cake pan.
Two Joule Sous Vide devices
3 Lipavi Sous Vide Tubs with Lids: 12, 18 and 26 quarts
Avid Armor Ultra Pro V32 Chamber Sealer
Instant Pot 6 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Instant Pot 10 Quart Electric Pressure Cooker
Charcoal Companion TurboQue
A-Maze-N tube 12 inch tube smoker accessory for use with pellets
BBQ Dragon and Dragon Chimney
Shun Classic Series:
8" Chef Knife
6" Chef's Knife
Gokujo Boning and Fillet Knife
3 1/2 inch Paring Knife
I enjoyed reading Max's very informative review. We are lucky to have such a service for this site, using Max's experienced eyes to give a new product a once-(and probably a twice-)over for us.
From what I read in the review, I'm very interested in the Searwood, for the convenience factor as much as for anything else. I'll be eager to hear whether it "(comes) off with some of the best smoke, color, and aroma we experienced from any pellet burner" like their Smokefire does.
Still watching from the bleachers, still mildly interested in a pellet cooker purchase,
I just got an email from Weber with links to the new Searwood grills.
Looks intriguing for a pellet grill, as it claims FULL GRATE searing, has options for a rotisserie, and even a griddle. Really does look like it *MIGHT* be the one grill that can do it all. Looks like they got rid of the problematic back side pellet bin of the Woodfire, and moved to a more conventional side hopper.
The warranty is much much shorter than on the Weber gas or charcoal grills, but that is to be expected I imagine.
My buddy Dave sent tis to me yesterday. Assembly may be more of a PITA than some other grills, but it looks to be a substantial build, so your patience is likely to be rewarded.
Right off the bat, I know that the sear capabilities on this grill are not going to equal what I get from my kettle, but , they might be acceptable, I cannot say for sure. I really hope Glitchy runs one through the ringer, if his SmokeFire experiences haven't scared him off for good.
I'm always eager to learn.
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