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    #16
    That smoke box doesn't look very big. I wonder how long it will run on a fill? And how often you have to mind it to achieve a heavy smoke flavor? Maybe all the convenience of a pellet grill and the flavor of an offset, just not at the same time?

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    • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
      ItsAllGoneToTheDogs commented
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      technically you'd only need the smokebox for the first 2-3 hours to get an enhanced smoke result, but I'm hoping there's some other technology change here with either the frequency of the pellets or fan speeds or something, because their claims of better bark or whatever are hooey at this point it's just a front access/refillable Heavy D which any pellet owner could buy and use for their current grill.

    • jfmorris
      jfmorris commented
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      I imagine you will have to refill it a couple of times during the first few hours of the cook. The wood chunks I get from B&B would likely fill that little box with 1 or 2 chunks.

    #17
    Haha. I loved those teaser videos that made it look like they were dumping logs into the firebox of an offset. Now we see that it is actually dumping small wood chunks into probably 4" x 4" square smoke box that sits above the pellet burn pot...

    While I am sure this will allow for a better smoke profile from a pellet cooker, I am still laughing at the difference of the reality versus the teaser videos...

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      #18
      Pretty underwhelming and not very much information for a $1500 grill.



      I just think I'm leaning more and more toward an offset or a Karu or something.

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        #19
        That whole smoke box thing is a joke. People have been using tubes and other things inside of their pellet grills pretty much since the grills hit the market.

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        • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
          ItsAllGoneToTheDogs commented
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          to be fair wood chunks do smoke different than a pellet or chip tube/tray

        • Huskee
          Huskee commented
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          I disagree, this is different.

        #20
        Well no it isn't a pellet fired offset but isn't meant to be. Smoking on a pellet grill even with a supplemental smoke tube with pellets is still just pellet smoke. Yes the smoke box is small because it's not an offset and considering I've never used more than 4 chunks of hardwood for a long smoke on my Weber/SNS or PBC I don't see that it needs to be any bigger. I like the concept because it integrates with all the convenience of a pellet cooker for those that need that convenience.

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          #21
          Personally, this new feature is meaningless for me. One of the things we like about the pellet cooker is the milder smoke flavor. We like just a kiss of smoke to let the flavors of the meat and spices shine through. If I want more smoke I have a smoke tube, that I have only used twice, as pkadare points out above. Also, my Weber kettle with SnS or Vortex can get pretty smoky. No, no upgrade in the cards for me.

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            #22
            I don't have a pellet grill and haven't thought much about buying one. But if I was shopping for one, this is a feature that would interest me. Now, if it could only keep the PBR cold at the same time..... wait, I mean Coors light....

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              #23
              Some good marketing and teasing to generate interest but disappointing on arrival.

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                #24
                I agree with most here. I could not see myself running out to buy this one.

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                  #25
                  I’m actually even more interested in it now. I’m not sold 100%, but I want more information. I think for me, it’s one of those things that I would want to test drive a little and get a little cook time with before I ruled it out from my stable. That said, I can’t afford anything new to cook with right now if I want to keep affording meat to cook. I’ll be keeping an eye out for a review here in The Pit!

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                    #26
                    This feels more like a new feature than a revolutionary new product - and to be fair, they kept it under the Woodwind brand . With that said, it seems like a pretty good differentiator...I already have a Woodwind, and while I won't be looking to upgrade, I would be excited for this if I was purchasing a new pellet smoker anyway.

                    And if I was choosing between GMG vs Camp Chef vs Silverbac, this would give Camp Chef the edge.

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                      #27
                      Jeremy Yoder did a video review on this new model:

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                        #28
                        So, it's easy, and safe, to be negative about a cooker you've never used..............sort of a very repeatable human trait. For those who appreciate an actual review based on useage, here's a YT vid (first I've seen, though others are likely on the way) that is a reasonable comparison for a higher end competitor. (1) Woodwind Pro: Gimmick or Game-Changer? | Mad Scientist BBQ - YouTube​

                        Looking forward to Max doing his thing as well.
                        Edit:
                        realdocBBQ beat me to it while i was typing.

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                        • Huskee
                          Huskee commented
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                          I made my comments below before reading yours here, but I agree whoeheartedly.

                        #29
                        I've watched several reviews on YouTube: Jeremy Yoder at Mad Scientist, Smoke and Vine, Hey Grill Hey, and a few others. I have a PBC and a traditional Weber Kettle. Am seriously thinking of getting one of these to round out my collection.

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                        • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
                          ItsAllGoneToTheDogs commented
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                          everyone that's reviewing these with published videos is being paid to do so, even if the only payment was a free cooker. HGH specifically is sponsored by CC. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I'll wait for Max or one of our fine pit members to put hands on. At the end of the day, it's a great idea (though CC is years late claiming they are the first). Smoke Daddy has a product that will do this on any pellet cooker, just can't top it off mid cook.

                        • Huskee
                          Huskee commented
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                          ItsAllGoneToTheDogs To be fair, often the cookers are provided to AR reviewrs too. We disclose that though. We still say exactly what we think, good or bad, irrespective of getting the cooker free. I would hope the others do the same.

                        #30
                        I've noticed when big reveals are teased and then are finally made the vast majority are never impressed, most are armchair critics, perhaps unfairly. I for one think this is a fantastic idea, but it's only my personal opinion based on how I happen to use my pellet cooker. For someone who uses a pellt cooker but wants a little extra smoke (and I don't mean from more pellets, as in a smoke tube), this is a great idea. I have been putting wood chunks in my pellet cooker under the tray and on top of the burn box for a long time. This is a better way.

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                        • ItsAllGoneToTheDogs
                          ItsAllGoneToTheDogs commented
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                          yep definitely a great evolution of the pellet grill, I just feel that CC is OVER selling how much better it is. Personally, the more competitive and popular the pellet world gets, the better it is for all pellet grill owners. More stores will stock pellets, pellets will remain affordable. Your preferred manufacturer may adopt some of the innovations or lower their price to compete. We all win when new products don't fail and instead raise the bar. RT has something coming in a few days I believe

                        • Huskee
                          Huskee commented
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                          It's any company's job to 'oversell' a new product!

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