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  • Phaddie
    Former Member
    • Sep 2020
    • 8

    New Smoker Time

    Hey Guys!

    Brand new here.

    I currently have a Louisiana grills CS450 pellet grill that I have outgrown. I want something that gives better smoke flavour, is bigger, and that requires a bit more skill to cook. I have been looking at Lang 36, Horizon 20" Icon, and the LSG 20x44.

    I would love the option of burning charcoal as well so I can still do a set it and forget it type of cook sometimes.

    I live in Toronto, Canada so shipping is going to be a huge cost.

    There are a few canadian custom builders but I do not feel confident enough to know from looking at the products if they are good quality or not.

    Really just looking for any information to help make the choice. Wanting to spend about 2000USD or so.

    Thank you in advance

    Phad
  • ofelles
    Club Member
    • Jun 2018
    • 2102
    • Brentwood CA
    • Yoder YS640 on Comp cart
      Klose 20x42 Charcoal Grill
      LSG Insulated Cabinet
      Jumbo Joe
      VacMaster Pro 380 sealer
      FireBoard and Pit Bull fan
      Thermoworks Signal
      Thermoworks Dot
      Thermopen Mk4

    #2
    Welcome to the pit from the California Delta.
    Both Lang and LSG build top quality cookers. I have an LSG insulated cooker and am very satisficed with the workmanship of the unit and how it cookers. It weights 900 pounds and cost me $590 in shipping to California. You're probably about the same distance. I have no idea of tariffs or taxes in Canada. But I think you might be a little light in the budget. Good luck!!

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    • DavidNorcross
      Club Member
      • Nov 2017
      • 1630
      • Virginia
      • Rec Tec RT-680
        Coleman RoadTrip LXX
        Javelin Pro Duo
        More Cast Iron than I care to admit

      #3
      Welcome from Virginia! No experience with either of those cookers, but I am sure you will get the answers you need.

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      • Ahumadora
        Club Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 2091
        • Pilar Buenos Aires, Argentina

        #4
        We have a meat up tonight on zoom and the topic is log burners. Join in and hopefully you will learn a bit.

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        • Andrrr
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          Starring a pretty reputable pit maker from what I remember 👍
      • Phaddie
        Former Member
        • Sep 2020
        • 8

        #5
        Originally posted by Ahumadora View Post
        We have a meat up tonight on zoom and the topic is log burners. Join in and hopefully you will learn a bit.
        What are the details on that?

        Scott

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      • LA Pork Butt
        Charter Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 5432
        • Grew up in New Orleans, lived in Texas for 20 years, lived in Mandeville, LA for 22 years. I now liv

        #6
        Welcome to the Pit from Dallas, Texas, USA!

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        • Mr. Bones
          Birthday Hat Master
          • Sep 2016
          • 9464
          • Kansas Territory
          • Grills / Smokers
            *********************************************

            Kingsford 24" grill (Free) 'Billy'
            Brinkmann Smoke n Grill
            Oklahoma Joe Highland, gaskets, LavaLock baffle / tuning plate. 'Big Joe'
            Weber 18" Kettle ($30 CL) 'Lil' Feller'
            Weber Smokey Joe ($25 CL) 'Lil' Brother'
            Weber 22.5 Master Touch '93 P Code Blue($85) from fellow WKC member Bmitch 'Elwood'
            Weber 22.5 Bar-B-Q Kettle '69-'70 "Patent Pending" Red ($80) from fellow WKC member dwnthehatch 'Maureen'
            Weber 22.5 OTS DD Code Black ($40 CL) 'DeeDee'
            Weber 22.5 OTS DO Code Black ($15 CL)
            Weber 22.5 OTS E Code Black ($20 CL
            Weber 22.5 OTS EE Code Black ($20 CL

            Weber "C" Code 18.5" WSM '81 ($50 CL) 8-0!!!
            Weber "H" Code 18.5" WSM '86 ($75 CL)
            Weber " " Code 18.5" WSM

            Weber 26.75, $199 NFM clearance !!!
            Weber SJS AH 'Lil' Brother'
            Weber SJS AT 'Lil' Sister'
            Weber SJS DE Code (FREE) 'Lil' Helper'
            Weber SJG M Code 'Lil Traveller'
            Weber SJS AH Code 'Kermit'
            (Lime Green)
            Horizon 20" Classic, w/baffle/tuning plate (FREE)
            Good One Open Range, (FREE), Monthly Prize from AR giveaway!!!!



            Thermometers:
            *********************************************
            Ol' Skool Bi-metal probe pocket thermo, that has checked / served ~ 1,000,000 meals in my possession, easily...
            Maverick ET-732, (Black)
            Thermopops, (Red, Yellow, Green)
            ThermaPen Mk4 (Black), THANKS!!! to jgjeske1
            Blue ThermaPen Mk4
            Orange Thermapen Mk4
            Pink Thermapen Mk4
            ThermoWorks IR-GUN-S
            ThermoWorks Smoke
            ThermoWorks Open Box Smoke
            4 Pro Series cable extensions
            Smoke Gateway

            Accessories:
            *********************************************
            2 Slow 'N Sears, Slow 'N Sear XL, Grill 'N Griddle
            BBQ Vortex, 2 Hovergrills, Top Deck
            Warming shelf
            MyWeigh KD-8000Kitchen Scale
            Backyard Grill marinade injector
            Acoustic Guitars/Electric Guitars/Basses/1928 National Duolian/Harmonicas/Banjo Washboard, Spoons, kazoos, pocket comb with wax paper, egg shakers ;-)
            Bear Paws
            Meat Rakes
            BBQ Dragon/Chimley of Insanity, Dragon Wing Shelves (x2 ea.)



            Cookware:
            Probably a ton of cast iron, mostly very old...still cookin'
            G'Ma's Piqua skillet, :-)( They went out of business in 1934~)
            '60's Revere Ware (Mom's), + others found elsewhere
            60's CorningWare 10-cup percolator (Mom's) Daily driver
            50's CorningWare 10-cup percolator (G'Ma's), for a backup! ;-)
            Carpy Wally World stock pots, in approx 2 gal/3gal sizes, blue speckledty-porcelain enameled
            Tramontina 6.5 qt Dutch Oven

            Cutlery, etc.:
            Shi*-ton of kitchen/chef knives, most sharper than my straight-razors are. (Better steel!) Chicago Cutlery, Old Hickory, various, including some nice German stuff ;-)
            Dexter 12" slicing knife, 6" Sani-Safe boning knife
            Smith's Tri-Hone Natural Arkansas Knife Sharpening System
            Multiple steels, from all over the planet
            Crock sticks
            Diamond stones, various
            Lansky Sharpening System

            Tableware
            Daily driver:Washington Forge Mardi Gras, Navy / Cobalt Blue
            Dinner: Guests: Washington Forge, Town and Country
            Fancy / Formal: Family silverware

          #7
          Howdy from Kansas Territory, Welcome to Th Pit!
          Lookin forward to learnin along with, an from ya!

          I have a Horizon 20" Classic, an can attest to their quality. Lang an LSG's quality is top-notch, as well.

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          • GroceryBoy
            Club Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 49
            • Fort Lauderdale, FL

            #8
            Welcome from sunny South Florida!
            I have the Lone Star 20x42. Because we are in Florida no need for an insulated firebox. It weighs in @ 800 lbs. I think you are going to have to raise the budget to go this route. BTW, you won’t be disappointed, great cooker!! Click image for larger version

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            • Steve B
              Steve B commented
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              Damn boy. That’s Sweeeeeet.
          • bbqLuv
            Club Member
            • Jan 2020
            • 693
            • Milwaukie, OR

            #9
            Hello from Oregon,
            Let us know what you decide. My self I would real hard at the Land Hybrid.

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            • RonB
              Club Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 12871
              • Near Richmond VA
              • Weber Performer Deluxe
                SNS
                Pizza insert
                Rotisserie
                Smokenator 1000
                Cookshack Smokette Elite
                2 Thermapens
                Chefalarm
                Dot
                lots of probes.
                CyberQ

              #10
              Welcome to The Pit.

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              • Huskee
                Administrator
                • May 2014
                • 15153
                • central MI, USA
                • Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue

                  Want a free bottle of whiskey? Check out my link to Flaviar.com, you join with it, we both get a $50 bottle free.

                  Smokers / Grills
                  • Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
                  • PBC
                  • Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
                  • Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
                  • Dyna-Glo XL Premium dual chamber charcoal grill
                  • Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
                  • Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (black)
                  • Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
                  • Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
                  • Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)

                  Thermometers
                  • (3) Maverick XR-50: 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
                  • (7) Maverick ET-732s
                  • (1) Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
                  • (1) Smoke by ThermoWorks
                  • (1) Signals by ThermoWorks
                  • Thermapen MkII, orange
                  • ThermoPop, yellow
                  • ThermoWorks ChefAlarm
                  • Morpilot 6-probe wireless
                  • ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
                  • ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well

                  Accessories
                  • Instant Pot 6qt
                  • Anova Bluetooth SV
                  • Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
                  • Kindling Cracker King (XL)
                  • BBQ Dragon
                  • Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
                  • Weber grill topper
                  • Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
                  • Drip 'N Griddle Pan, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by ABCbarbecue
                  • Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter

                  Beverages
                  • Favorite summer beer: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
                  • Fav other beer: DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
                  • Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
                  • Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
                  • Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
                  • Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
                  • Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.

                  About me
                  Real name: Aaron
                  Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)

                  Occupation:
                  • Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) for MidMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.

                #11
                Welcome to the Pitmaster Club and thanks for giving us a try and for introducing yourself. We hope you’ll decide to stick around. What a jump going from pellets to a stickburner, good for you! You will love the flavor increase. Just remember there's no getting up, putting the meat on, then going back to bed with a stickburner!

                Since you’re new here, please check out our homework assignment post for new members, it contains a few how-tos and please-dos. This will help you learn your way around so you can get the best experience from our forum.

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                Hope to hear & see more from you!

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                • BigBry
                  Club Member
                  • Apr 2020
                  • 59
                  • Aylmer, Quebec, Canada

                  #12
                  Welcome fellow Canuck! Nice upcoming project you have. You might want to take a look at some small Quebec smoker builders. The artisan builder scene is growing. Check for Hamrforge They have amazing stuff. Also heard of one builder coming on the scene soon.

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                  • Phaddie
                    Former Member
                    • Sep 2020
                    • 8

                    #13
                    Originally posted by BigBry View Post
                    Welcome fellow Canuck! Nice upcoming project you have. You might want to take a look at some small Quebec smoker builders. The artisan builder scene is growing. Check for Hamrforge They have amazing stuff. Also heard of one builder coming on the scene soon.
                    I saw hammrforge but their offset smoker is $5500. What other Canadian builders are you aware of?
                    Last edited by Phaddie; October 1, 2020, 03:10 PM.

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                    • holehogg
                      Club Member
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 2399
                      • Port Elizabeth, South Africa

                      #14
                      Greetings from South Africa

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                      • Donw
                        Club Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 3144

                        #15
                        Welcome from Maryland. I have heard good things about Hamrforge. I know we have a member who had one shipped to Australia. Hopefully he will see this post and comment.

                        I also know Max Good has said his friends in Canada love them.
                        Last edited by Donw; October 1, 2020, 02:30 PM.

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