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  • GilaMonster
    Former Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 32
    • Gila County Arizona

    New Member with $24 question!

    Add one more grille addict to the list.

    I am in the far north of Gila County, Arizona, and have had a BBQ my whole adult life. Almost always a Weber, always charcoal. Never have had gas. At various times in my life I've thought I know how to cook on the grille, only to be disappointed in the results. (can you say 'Chicken Jerky'?)

    Looking for a Dutch Oven recipe of some sort, I ran across this site, and spent days absorbing everything I could, while trying to look between all the ads and invitations to join the Pit. Thermometers! Smoking! Charcoal Chimney! Smokenator! Slow N Sear! Rubs!

    I finally realized that I really need to know about all these things if my outdoor cooking is going to improve, so I got out the credit card.

    And, now that I've spent the 24 bucks, here is the $24 Question: Which to add to my Weber Performer? The Smokenator, or the Slow N Sear. Both seem to be a good addition, but really, if you all had to do it again, which would you choose, if you had budget for only one?

    No matter which, I think the addition of the Hovergrille is a good idea...what say you?

    OK, I've got a chunk of pork shoulder in the Dutch Oven (in the kitchen oven) just about finished turning itself into pulled pork, so I gotta go.

    I'll check back later for the answers to the $24 Question!

    doug

  • Jon Solberg
    Former Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 4872

    #2
    SnS is the only option. I've owed both. I threw the smokenator away when I got an SnS. Which BTW I own 3 of now.

    Hover grill? I say save your money IMHO.


    Oh and welcome to the pit.

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    • MBMorgan
      Club Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 6033
      • Colorado
      • > Weber Genesis EP-330
        > Grilla Grills Original Grilla (OG) pellet smoker
        > Pit Barrel Cooker (gone to a new home)
        > WeberQ 2000 (on "loan" to a relative)
        > Old Smokey Electric (for chickens mostly - when it's too nasty out
        to fiddle with a more capable cooker)
        > Luhr Jensen Little Chief Electric - Top Loader circa 1990 (smoked fish & jerky)
        > Thermoworks Smoke
        > 3 Thermoworks Chef Alarms
        > Thermoworks Thermapen
        > Thermoworks IR-GUN-S
        > Anova sous vide circulator
        > Searzall torch
        > BBQ Guru Rib Ring

        > Favorite Beer: Guinness Extra Stout, Fat Tire, Anchor Steam, or Alaskan Amber
        > Favorite Wine: Klinker Brick Old Ghost Zinfandel or Matetic Corralillo Winemaker's Blend
        > Favorite Whiskey: Balvenie Double Wood Scotch or Jameson Irish

      #3
      Welcome to the Pit ... and +1 for the SnS.

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      • DWCowles
        Founding Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 9762
        • Smiths Grove, Ky
        • Hi, my name is Darrell. I'm an OTR truck driver for over 25 years. During my off time I love doing backyard cooks. I have a 48" Lang Deluxe smoker, Rec-Tec pellet smoker,1 Weber Genesis 330, 1 Weber Performer (blue), 2 Weber kettles (1 black and 1 Copper), 1 26" Weber kettle, a WSM, 8 Maverick Redi Chek thermometers, a PartyQ, 2 SnS, Grill Grates, Cast Iron grates, 1 ThermoPop (orange) and 2 ThermoPens (pink and orange) and planning on adding more cooking accessories. Now I have an Anova sous vide, the Dragon blower and 2 Chef alarms from Thermoworks.

        #4
        Welcome GilaMonster

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        • David Parrish
          Founding Member - Pit Boss Emeritus
          • May 2014
          • 5044
          • Charlotte, NC
            • Slow 'N Sear Kamado (SnSK)
            • Lots of grills that work with Slow 'N Sear
            • LOTS of digital thermometers (my fav)
            • LOTS of accessories
            • Favorite Beer - Fat Tire
            • Favorite Bourbon - Woodford Reserve
            • Favorite White Wine - Cakebread Chardonnay
            • Favorite Red Wine - Yes, Please
            • President/Owner - SnS Grills

          #5
          Welcome to The Pit GilaMonster! We're glad you're. I will also +1 the Slow 'N Sear but should caveat that with the fact that I own the company that sales the Slow 'N Sear. A couple of years ago Huskee and I were sharing our frustrations with the then current offerings on the market and wondered, "why can't there be an accessory for the kettle that delivers smoking and searing awesomeness without limitations?" Soon after that the Slow 'N Sear was born, and it's been a crazy ride ever since.

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          • scottranda
            Charter Member
            • May 2015
            • 1662
            • Charlotte, NC

            #6
            Read the reviews of SnS on this Forum. It gets rave reviews. RAVE!!!!

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            • Fine Swine
              Former Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 193
              • Davidsonville, MD

              #7
              Don't think you need anything to make things pretty good. But I use the SnS too. Get a good digital thermometer for both meat and at cooking level. Temperature control is really important.

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              • LA Pork Butt
                Charter Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 5073
                • Grew up in New Orleans, lived in Texas for 20 years, lived in Mandeville, LA for 22 years. I now liv

                #8
                Welcome to the Pit! My son has a 26" Weber and loves his SnS. Go with the SnS. I think you will find it easier than the smoke actor.
                Last edited by LA Pork Butt; February 21st, 2016, 07:39 PM.

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                • GilaMonster
                  Former Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 32
                  • Gila County Arizona

                  #9
                  Thanks for the welcome, and for the SNS advice. Just read much of the SNS sub-forum, and looked at the pictures, and read the head-to-head report. I think it's an easy decision -- ordering my SNS right now!

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                  • richinlbrg
                    richinlbrg commented
                    Editing a comment
                    Welcome, GilaMonster !

                    You're going to LOVE the SnS! I never had the smokenator, but LOVE the SnS! Except for large cooks, the SnS has essentially retired mu WSM!.

                    Looking forward to seeing/hearing of your SnS experience!
                • Huskee
                  Pit Boss
                  • May 2014
                  • 14671
                  • central MI, USA
                  • Follow me on Instagram, huskeesbarbecue

                    Want a free bottle of whiskey? Check out my link to Flaviar.com, you join with it, we both get a $50 bottle free.

                    Smokers / Grills
                    • Yoder loaded Wichita offset smoker
                    • PBC
                    • Grilla Silverbac pellet grill
                    • Slow 'N Sear Deluxe Kamado (SnSK)
                    • Dyna-Glo XL Premium dual chamber charcoal grill
                    • Weber 22" Original Kettle Premium (copper)
                    • Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (black)
                    • Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
                    • Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
                    • Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)

                    Thermometers
                    • (3) Maverick XR-50: 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
                    • (7) Maverick ET-732s
                    • (1) Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
                    • (1) Smoke by ThermoWorks
                    • (1) Signals by ThermoWorks
                    • Thermapen MkII, orange
                    • ThermoPop, yellow
                    • ThermoWorks ChefAlarm
                    • Morpilot 6-probe wireless
                    • ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
                    • ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well

                    Accessories
                    • Instant Pot 6qt
                    • Anova Bluetooth SV
                    • Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
                    • Kindling Cracker King (XL)
                    • BBQ Dragon
                    • Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
                    • Weber grill topper
                    • Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
                    • Drip 'N Griddle Pan, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by ABCbarbecue
                    • Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter

                    Beverages
                    • Favorite summer beer: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
                    • Fav other beer: DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
                    • Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
                    • Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
                    • Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
                    • Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
                    • Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.

                    About me
                    Real name: Aaron
                    Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)

                    Occupation:
                    • Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) for MidMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.

                  #10
                  Welcome to The Pit GilaMonster! Glad to have you here. On a side note my boys love gila monsters, they're their favorite animal right now since they watched the PBS Kids' show "Wild Kratts" and seen it highlighted. Anyway back on subject, I think you'll love the SnS, it really is a wonderful tool.

                  Since this is your first post, please check out our homework assignment post for new members, it contains a few how-tos and please-dos. This will help you learn your way around so you can get the best experience from our forum.

                  Also, it's very important that you add the domain AmazingRibs.com to your email safe list in case you are ever drawn as our monthly Gold Medal Giveaway winner!

                  Hope to hear & see more from you!

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                  • Danjohnston949
                    Former Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 4436
                    • 1410 9th. St. N, Fargo ND

                    #11
                    GilaMonster, Welcome to The Pit! If you haven't noticed this Crowd is Predjudised, of coarse you need a S 'n S, at least a Maverick 732/733 Dual Probe Digital Thermometer, a Thermopen Instant Read Digital Thermometer, and probably an Auber or DigiQ Temp Control for Your Weber! But it is Better to Have More Than One Weber! Eat Well and Prosper! From Fargo ND, Dan

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                    • Craigar
                      Founding Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 1078
                      • Papillion, NE
                      • * - Weber 26.75" OTG
                        * - Weber 22.5" Premium cloaked in Crimson
                        * - Slow 'N Sear
                        * - Smoke E-Z - 26.75" (The Grain Silo)
                        * - Lodge Sportsman Grill
                        * - Weber Rapid Fire Chimney Starter
                        * - Thermoworks ThermoPop
                        * - Thermoworks Dot
                        * - iGrill2 - 4 probes
                        * - Favorite Beer - the cold one in my hand (craft beers of all flavors; haven't had a blue yummy in over 6 years) my tastes change with the season so it is difficult to name just a couple. However, I will occasionally have a vanilla porter float in the summer (Empyrean Vanilla Porter w/a scoop of homemade vanilla ice cream) as I usually drink stouts & porters in the colder months, pale ales & IPAs in the warmer months. I have to add Not Your Father's Root Beer to beers I use for floats.
                        * - Booze - I don't really have a favorite, but lean towards single malt Scotch & Irish whiskey
                        * - Wines - Reds: mainly the heavy stuff mixed in with the occasional pinot noir ( I have yet to meet a malbec I didn't like); Whites: German & Nebraska (hey, I have to support the home team)
                        * - Favorite Spice outlets - Frisco Spices in LaVista, NE (the local butcher supply shop); Volcanic Peppers in Bellevue, NE
                        * - Current butchers: Just Good Meats & Fareway Foods

                      #12
                      GilaMonster welcome to The Pit! I have the SnS for my 26" Weber and I love it. As far as the Smokenator goes, I have never owned own so I can't comment one way or the other. I used 2 firebricks and a loaf pan for water before I bought the SnS and now I wish I wouldn't have been so stubborn to think there was no way the SnS would work better than my setup. All I know is, if you opt for the SnS you will not be disappointed.

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                      • mhkesler84
                        Former Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 84
                        • Raleigh, NC

                        #13
                        Coming from someone that had a Smokenator and the SnS. SnS is by far superior! It is much easier to use in all aspects. Stacking the briquettes in the Smokenator was a pain, the SnS you just dump them in. Same goes for refueling for longer cooks. Attempting to move the Smokernator and add more coals was nothing short of a pain in the ass, plus all the heat that's getting generated. Also the water system is much easier use on the SnS, I will say make sure you don't pour cold water in the SnS after it has been lit for awhile, otherwise the trough becomes warped (experienced it myself Doh!) Plus you got the guys that invented the thing here to ask questions to directly, customer service can't get much better than that.

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                        • fuzzydaddy
                          Charter Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 4949
                          • Winchester TN
                          • Hardware
                            Slow N Sear Deluxe Kamado.
                            22" Weber Kettle.
                            Slow N Sear, DnG Pans/Racks, Easy Spin Grates, Elevated Cooking Grates.
                            Chimney starters.
                            PartyQ.
                            Joule.
                            GrillGrates, GrateGriddles.
                            Maverick XR-50 [my favorite].
                            ThermoWorks Smoke & Gateway, Thermapen, Thermapop, ChefAlarms, DOT, probes

                            Consumables / Favorites
                            KBB (short cooks), Weber (long cooks)
                            Ribs (beef & pork), Pork Butts, Chuck Roasts, Pork Tenderloins.
                            SnS Grills salt free rubs: Not Just for Beef & Rocky’s Rub.
                            MeatChurch Holy Cow. MMD, BBBR, S&G, Herbs de Provence, SPOG.

                          #14
                          Welcome aboard GilaMonster. I've owned the Smokenator and the Slow 'N Sear and it's good to see that you've ordered the SnS. I bought the SnS because I trusted Pit Boss and what he promised it would deliver. I love and use the SnS because of how it performs. I have one in both my 22" and 26" kettles.

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                          • Breadhead
                            Banned Former Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 1

                            #15
                            Welcome to the Pit GilaMonster ...

                            I've always been a Big Green Egg guy.

                            However... Once I saw everyone on AR raving about how good this new Slow n Sear product was I finally said I have to get me one of those.😆

                            Then I remembered that I don't even own a Weber Kettle so why in the world do I think I need a SnS?

                            I solved that problem by buying a 26" Weber Kettle & the Slow n Sear at the same time😏.

                            I clicked on the kettle before the SnS so I didn't feel guilty.😎

                            Side note: The REAL VALUE of the $24 you just invested to further your BBQ hobby is not the information listed on the website. That's there for free.

                            You will find over time that having 8000 to 10,000 people to trade ideas with and get really valuable input from those that have already perfected what you're currently trying to learn is priceless.
                            Last edited by Breadhead; February 15th, 2016, 05:15 PM.

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                            • richinlbrg
                              richinlbrg commented
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                              You're gonna be a very happy guy!

                              The SnS has retired my beloved WSM except for big cooks!

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