The nerve of some people. Makes me sick that people would resort to this.
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I love it!
"Defendants’ continued to use and operate the Oven in a spirit of hatred, ill will or revenge."
I wonder if it is because that one set of neighbors, 2 doors down, was never invited or refused an invitation to share in pizza... Also, if smoke floating over my fence offended the neighbors, I would have been sued many years ago! I can vouch for MANY times I've been starting up or burning off a grill and had the backyard covered in low flying smoke for a bit. Or had the smell of smoky brisket, ribs or butts wafting across the fence.
This isn't the first lawsuit like this I've read of - there was one someone brought up a year or two back where someone in California was suing a neighbor about letting the SMELL of their grilled food cross into their yard.Comment
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I would have my lawyer respond with "plantiffs continue to be total "Karens", loudly demanding to speak to the manager of smoke immediately"
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This case reminds me of my parents’ next door neighbor when I was growing up. She used to threaten to call the police on us kids if we walked on her lawn or in the winter, if we walked on her snow.Comment
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Almost 40 years ago we were in a little town in South Dakota. I have traditionally grilled myself steak on my birthday. Which is Feb. 8. That year it was around 0 on that date, so I took shelter in my garage. The smoke was billowing out of the door, and one of the town cops, who was a friend, stopped to see if the garage was on fire. But nobody called the fire department.
Where I live I'm more likely to have people stop by and tell me whatever I'm smoking smells really good. In both neighborhoods everybody has big dogs and almost everybody has some kind of smoker or grill. So, nobody really can complain.Comment
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I hope this is dismissed with prejudice and they have to pay for legal fees.
Separately - I'm having a hard time figuring out what a chimney extension would do to mitigate the smell/smoke or whatever they are complaining about. Last time I checked, smoke does not travel in a straight line in the air, especially two houses away, so exactly would raising height of the chimney a few feet accomplish?Comment
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If the article depicts this situation correctly, there is no moral equivalency here. It’s simply one neighbor bullying and the other neighbor stubbornly refusing to acquiesce to the demands of a bully. Good for them. There is no moral obligation to acquiesce to bullying.
Practically speaking, standing up to bullies may carry a price. Kudos to the pizza maker for being willing to pay the price. Not everyone can.Comment
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Here's an updated article. Apparently the complainants did attend a pizza party and loved the pizza. The defendants also did make modifications to the appease the other couple. But they still want $25k in damages and an end to the pizza parties.
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I would make things worse. By inviting EVERYONE over then very loudly saying things like "it is so wonderful to have all my neighbors WHO ARE NOT ASSHOLES over for backyard pizza!!! Lets FIRE this oven up!! I hope the wind is not blowing to the <direction of the complainers>, we dont want THOSE ASSHOLES complaining".
Also I would notify the local FD in advance, and let them know the first few pizzas were for them. What would you like for toppings.Comment
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I live in a town where people rake their leaves into the street and set them on fire. A wood fired pizza oven would be ambrosia.
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ofelles When farmers fairly regularly burn off fields and ditches, it's kind of the norm. The bigger the city, the more detached from agriculture, the more likelihood that there will be an ordinance against open burning. In my retirement home, I'd probably get into trouble burning leaves, but I burn twigs and branches (some with leaves still attached) in my firepit and no one says a thing.
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I'm sure it varies state to state, but as a Rx Burn manager (Prescribed Forest Fires), one of the big tenants of that license is "your fire, your smoke, your problem". Meaning you have to find ways to manage and/or mitigate it. I'm curious how that would apply to this case.....Comment
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The main difference is that a prescribed forest fire is not a typical occurrence in an area, and homeowners wouldn't expect to encounter that sort of smoke. OTOH, anyone moving into a suburban neighborhood should expect to encounter things like grills or pizza ovens, so those wouldn't be considered nuisances, unless the oven/grill were so abnormally large as to be unusual (or if the neighbors were smelting iron ore or running a paper mill in their back yard, there is a line that can be crossed)
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The verdict is in. Long live the pizza party!
Jury: Backyard pizza oven not negligently used
CLEVELAND (WJW) — A jury has ruled in favor of the defendants in an unusual case where a couple sued their neighbors for using a large pizza oven in their backyard.
https://fox8.com/news/civil-trial-co...-oven-lawsuit/Last edited by Attjack; February 3, 2023, 11:30 AM.Comment
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And the Great Pizza Oven Battle of 2023 comes to an end. I wonder how long the jury took to reach a verdict. I can just imagine the trial ending, the jury going off to its room, voting, and turning right around to tell the judge they reached a verdict.Comment
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Unfortunately, both parties lost. They spent a lot of money on lawyers and court costs, still hate each other, will always have animosity towards each other, and nothing has changed.Comment
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Complete and utter bullshit.Comment
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