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Starting a new smoker build... 60-callon on a yard cart, small ATV tires.

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    Starting a new smoker build... 60-callon on a yard cart, small ATV tires.

    I've had some serious Seasonal Affective Disorder symptoms lately... for those of ya'll that don't know, that means I'm tried of winter and being cooped up inside!

    So yesterday was a slow afternoon, I managed to reschedule a couple of appointments and took the afternoon off.

    Had my plasma table guy cut out a BUNCH of parts for me, enough to do small parts for multiple future builds. I know I'll have more things I need here and there, but these will definitely get me in the ballpark. And they came in handy yesterday on a day nearly 70ºF at the end of January. Every day this week has been 'near record' temps. W00T! So I got sick of being stuck indoors and working 12 hours and took the afternoon off.

    This next smoker is going to be a small one, only a 60-gallon tank, made from an old air compressor. It'll be on some smallish 'youth' ATV wheels, I made the wheels and axles some time ago.

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    You can see on one end the spacer/adapter I had to buy to change the bolt pattern on the wheels to fit my idler hubs. Also had to drill out the stud holes a little, had to make some other alterations - my first experience with 2-piece wheels. I didn't know that was a thing, a rim that is 2 pieces sandwiched together. It was a bit of a pain. Anyways... thought I had some pics of the wheels/tires, but I didn't, I'll get some. They are actually a hair smaller than my golf cart tires on The Duk (my backyard home-built Ugly Duckling), but they look a little cooler, since they're "knobby" like ATV tires tend to be. They should be perfect for this smaller build.

    Yesterday I decided to work on the firebox. I used a 30" piece of pipe left over from my backyard smoker build. 18" diameter, 30" long and over 5/16" thick. More like .330-340wt (wall thickness). It'll last, for sure. Used 1/4" on all the small parts and the endcaps. I got a good amount of work done, used my Harbor Frieght rotary drum surface prepping tool to strip the paint off at least 1/4" of the cook chamber tank (that takes some work) for the door, marked top-dead-center on cook chamber and firebox pipe while mocked up on my new pipe stands so I could see how everything looks. I was pleased and decided to get to work on the firebox.

    One endcap:

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    Some welds, once I got 'warmed up' and back in the swing of it - first welds were pretty crappy. I should practiced some to figure it out again.

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    And at the end of the day, I got the whole firebox completed! W00T! Not a bad afternoon, and I'm ready to get on the cook chamber and the yard cart.

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    This one isn't going to be too elaborate, but hopefully it'll come out decent. 60-gallon air tank, about a 30-gallon firebox, yard cart, small ATV tires, 4.5" exhaust on a tiny collector.

    #2
    Nice welds. Looking pretty cool with all that door hardware. 👍👍

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      #3
      Nice looking work on the door. But I'm confused, are you going to cut that down to a smaller length? You certainly don't need a firebox that long. Am I missing something??

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        #4
        I am no expert, but I kind of dig the long firebox. Less radiant heat into the bbq chamber? On my offset I had to build the fire up right by the door or it got stupid hot on the first part of the grates.

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        • Johnny Booth
          Johnny Booth commented
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          Agreed, the longer firebox give you options for fire management. Will the firebox be insulated?

        • realdocBBQ
          realdocBBQ commented
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          No it will not. It is plenty thick and I'm not worried about burning out. It's also a small smoker so it's not something likely to be used for large volume. My previous backyard cooker was built with this same firebox and it IS insulated, but I am unconvinced in a regular backyard environment that any theoretical wood cost savings are significant. Maybe in a big commercial operation, but in general, around here, it's a pretty minimal difference - except people who WANT it because they WANT it.

        #5
        Nice! I love that door hinge on the fire box. That is really cool. Not to mention the preset spot of the door latch to sit, so you can have the door propped open.



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          #6
          Originally posted by Troutman View Post
          Nice looking work on the door. But I'm confused, are you going to cut that down to a smaller length? You certainly don't need a firebox that long. Am I missing something??
          More is better.


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            #7
            Originally posted by Troutman View Post
            Nice looking work on the door. But I'm confused, are you going to cut that down to a smaller length? You certainly don't need a firebox that long. Am I missing something??
            Possibly ...

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              #8
              Nice looking welds. I’m looking forward to seeing your progress as this build comes to fruition.

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                #9
                I only showed the 'prettier' welds for a reason! lol

                As for the length of the firebox, no I am not going to cut it down. I had considered it. I mocked up the FB and tank, the only thing to do would be cut off 8" or so, and I'd be left with an 8" x 18" ring which doesn't serve any use for me so it would be waste. And having a 'too big' firebox isn't usually an issue unless it's vastly oversized. And when I 'inset' the firebox cylinder into the tank, it will be another 5" or so inside... I don't think there's a need, I don't think it will look too bad being overly long.

                AND.. as bmillin mentioned, getting away from radiant heat is a good thing, too. I'll be incorporating a couple of differences in this build from my previous ones, to sort of try to improve things. We'll see how it goes.

                If I had time and weather, I think I could knock this whole thing out by the end of the weekend - but I don't. <sigh> I'm at the mercy of time, work, social obligations and, of course, Mother Nature.

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                  #10
                  Nice! Love the build so far, very nice door latch and hinges. Keep us posted with more pics please!

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                    #11
                    Insulated firebox, insulated firebox.....

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                    • Huskee
                      Huskee commented
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                      Agreed. I did some experimenting and learned first hand that an insulated firebox matters more than an insulated cook box. And I wouldn't have thunk it had I not proved it to myself.

                    • realdocBBQ
                      realdocBBQ commented
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                      Nah. Not necessary. I've got one of those and it isn't that much of a difference - especially on a small cooker like this. The wood savings are minimal, I think, and it's easy enough to keep temps up.

                    • Jerod Broussard
                      Jerod Broussard commented
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                      realdocBBQ the difference on my cheap COS was very noticeable. Hence the reason my vertical is insulated.

                    #12
                    Insulated pit, insulated pit...

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                    • realdocBBQ
                      realdocBBQ commented
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                      Not worth the time, effort and cost. It would more than double the cost of this pit to insulate the firebox, for a very minor gain, if any.

                    • Smoker_Boy
                      Smoker_Boy commented
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                      I probably should have put a Smilie Face after the post.

                    #13
                    I scrolled down the pictures and then scrolled back up to see if this would be a reverse flow.
                    You're doing good.

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                      #14
                      Thanks for showing us another build! I'm envious, and wish I had the time, space and tools to do something like that. Well, I know you had to steal the time, but still...

                      Keep up the good work!

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                        #15
                        I agree, insulated firebox is not needed. On a COS, then definitely, but not on a build like this. I’d rather go with the longer firebox (as shown), that makes a bigger difference than insulation on a cooler this size. Just my 2 cents.

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                        • Smoker_Boy
                          Smoker_Boy commented
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                          Never mind...
                          Last edited by Smoker_Boy; February 2, 2024, 03:22 PM.

                        • Johnny Booth
                          Johnny Booth commented
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                          Lol - hey Smoker_Boy - I like insulated fireboxes. 😁

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