I also enjoyed the seminar. changed my mind a lot about salting, brining, my rubs and all. my wife asks are you going to change every thing you do and my answer was NO only the things I do not do correctly'
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VIDEO- Dr. Greg Blonder: "The Magic Of Salt: So Vital, And So Misunderstood" (53 mins)
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Originally posted by Papa Bob View PostI also enjoyed the seminar. changed my mind a lot about salting, brining, my rubs and all. my wife asks are you going to change every thing you do and my answer was NO only the things I do not do correctly'
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Originally posted by BBQ Stew View PostI just watched this on archives. Wow. My question is this. Should I stop injecting my brisket with beef broth because it does nothing but increase the stall or should I continue because I use the Texas Crunch method.
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This was a real eye opener and raises a lot of questions for me.
#1: If you want to make a 6% wet brine, what is the amount of table salt needed per quart of water?
#2: Same question as above, but what is the amount of kosher salt needed per quart. I think it would be double the amount of table salt but I might be wrong.
#3: Are the pores in chicken and pork the same size as read meat or are they larger or smaller?
#4: If you are marinading a tough cut of beef, how far will the marinade travel into the meat over a four hour period? eight hours? 12 hours?
#5: If you are using an acid like lemon juice in your marinade, will the acid travel into the meat at the same speed as water?
My reasoning for asking these questions is I wonder how much good a marinade actually does.
If any of you know the answers to these questions, please be kind enough to respond. I'm a stickler for detail and would like to know as much as possible. I'm a borderline intermediate BBQer and want to get better!
Thanks!
W. E. King
Newport Beach, CA.
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Only the salt and a few tiny flavor molecules, like garlic, will penetrate after a day or two. The rest sit on the surface. This is why Chinese food is so flavorful- they slice the meat thin enough that the marinade makes it to the center. Because the center is only an eight of an inch away.
Acids do not penetrate very quickly, and they tend to turn the surface to mush. Plus they slow smoke ring formation. I tend to use acids late in the smoke after the bark sets up, or in the final rest, so the flavor remains "bright".
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Mr King, check out Meathead's brine page here.
1) Read about halfway down the page, at the subheading "The Simpler Blonder Brine (6.4%)" to see Meathead & Dr Blonder's recipe for a 6.4% brine. You'll notice the most correct way to do it is to weight the salt, but there are volume measurements too.
2) Typically speaking, table salt is more concentrated in a given volume since the grains are smaller and tighter packed. Therefore, we usually go about half when using table salt instead, or about double when using Kosher salt instead. The exact conversion Meathead lists as 1 cup Morton's table salt = 1.8 cups Morton's Kosher Salt.
3) These are discussed in part on the brine page I linked you to in answer 1, as well as at the Zen of Salt article.
4, 5) Check out Meathead's marinades article here, this will enlighten you. The short answer- not very far.
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- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
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- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
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You're very welcome. There are soooo may pages of amazing science, mythbusting and recipes and how-tos here it's incredible. Thanks for joining and helping support us by the way.
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Thanks for the great video! I wish I would have seen this before I made all my rubs. They all have salt. For those of us with salt in our rubs, what's the best way to use them? Use them like a dry brine a day or two before smoking (for larger cuts)? Apply a bit more with some oil shortly before cooking to access the fat soluble flavors in the rub? Throw them out and start over omitting the salt?
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- Masterbuilt Gravity 560
- Masterbuilt Digital Charcoal Cabinet
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- Weber 26" Original Kettle Premium (light blue)
- Weber Jumbo Joe Gold (18.5")
- Weber Smokey Joe Silver (14.5")
- Brinkmann cabinet charcoal smoker (repurposed)
Thermometers- SnS 500 4-probe wireless
- (3) Maverick XR-50 4-probe Wireless Thermometers
- A few straggler Maverick ET-732s
- Maverick ET-735 Bluetooth (in box)
- Smoke X4 by ThermoWorks
- Thermapen MkII, orange & purple
- ThermoPop, yellow, plus a few more in a drawer for gifts
- ThermoWorks ChefAlarm (wife's)
- Morpilot 6-probe wireless
- ThermoWorks Infrared IRK2
- ThermoWorks fridge & freezer therms as well
Accessories- Instant Pot 6qt
- Anova Bluetooth SV
- Kitchen Aide mixer & meat grinder attachment
- Kindling Cracker King (XL)
- a couple BBQ Dragons
- Weber full & half chimneys, Char-Broil Half Time chimney
- Weber grill topper
- Slow 'N Sear Original, XL, and SnS Charcoal Basket (for Jumbo Joe)
- Drip 'N Griddle Pans, 22' Easy Spin Grate, and Elevated Cooking grate, by SnSGrills
- Pittsburgh Digital Moisture Meter
Beverages- Favorite summer beers: Leinenkugels Summer & Grapefruit Shandy, Hamm's, Michelob Ultra Pure Gold
- Fav other beers: Zombie Dust (an IPA by 3 Floyd's Brewing), Austin Bros IPA, DAB, Sam Adams regular, Third Shift amber or Coors Batch 19, Stella Artois
- Fav cheap beers: Pabst, High Life, Hamm's & Stroh's
- Most favorite beer: The one in your fridge
- Wine: Red- big, bold, tannic & peppery- Petite Sirah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauv, Sangiovese, Syrah, etc
- Whiskey: Buffalo Trace, E.H. Taylor, Blanton's, Old Forester 1870, Elijah Craig Toasted, Basil Hayden's. Neat please.
- Scotch: Current favorite- The Arran (anything by them), Glenmorangie 12yr Lasanta, sherry cask finished. The Balvenie Double Wood, also like Oban 18yr, and The Glenlivet Nadurra (Oloroso sherry cask finished) among others. Neat please.
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Location: Farwell, Michigan- near Clare. (dead center of lower peninsula)
Occupation:- Healthcare- Licensed & Registered Respiratory Therapist (RRT) at MyMichigan Health, a University of Michigan Health System.
Originally posted by Dr ROK View PostThanks for the great video! I wish I would have seen this before I made all my rubs. They all have salt. For those of us with salt in our rubs, what's the best way to use them? Use them like a dry brine a day or two before smoking (for larger cuts)? Apply a bit more with some oil shortly before cooking to access the fat soluble flavors in the rub? Throw them out and start over omitting the salt?
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I like to experiment with homemade sauces and rubs. Pork is King, but beef is good too.
Always planing and brainstorming for the summer kickoff BBQ for my church.
Glad I saw this while I'm still perfecting my own rubs, time to cut out the salt.. Makes a lot of sense. Is there away to view the videos on Vimeo if we have an account on there? I can cast the vids to my TV to watch from my tablet, but if I could do it from the app, it'd be less moving parts to cause issues.
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