My marinate oil has herbs in it when I am grilling on the gas grill or over charcoal and at high heats you can taste it but I don't believe it will help in my stick burner. But what do I know? Only thing I know is I do not plan on trying it. Happy enough the way it turns out the last few years. And with a rub how do you know if you got anytning from the smoke or is it your rub???
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Review this article and see what Meathead has to say about it. To me personally, this is all BS. The liquid must be boiled off before the wood will burn, which causes smoldering and off flavors.
There is no need to soak wood before cooking with it. Water doesn't penetrate wood. That's why they make boats from it!
Side note on the dial thermos......if they are of high quality, they are accurate. Tel Tru make a great dial thermometer. You pay for the quality and accuracy. When we are talking about dial thermos being off, we are really talking about the cheap ones you can buy for $10 at the hardware store. Plus, a smoker thermometer does not need to be perfect. a 20 F temp range is totally fine. That is not the case for a MEAT thermometer, which must be much more accurate. In that case, you'd want a fast- reading digital anyway.
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I used to calibrate my BGE thermo… actually ALL my thermos… every spring. I stopped doing it a few years ago, though. They were all spot on, including the BGE dial.
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Same thing as the 24-hour news cycle - everything's gotta be a crisis, gotta fill up those hours with some kind of content. Firemen rescuing kitties from trees doesn't bring in the viewers.
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Yes indeed, good point! I hadn’t seen any of said discussions and debunking as I've been away from the forums for a long time, but definitely makes a heap of sense!Originally posted by Mosca View Post
There’s your answer right there. Debunking of the soak has been going on for a while, but didn’t really take off until recently. Raichlen still recommends smoking chips (but not chunks). I think he just doesn’t like admitting he’s wrong, and because he has a huge back library that recommends doing it.
No comment on the spices, vinegar, etc.. I haven’t tried it. It doesn’t make sense, but I don’t know. I like spritzing with apple cider vinegar and apple juice, but if I don’t have any of those I’m not going to the store. I’ll just spritz with water. I use the other stuff because it makes me feel like I’m doing something.
The repeat of the episode is just a cheap way for the station to fill time and sell ads.
Yeah I was more intrigued by the fact it wasn’t the segment host taking about it, but the actual smoker builder and owner of this biz, Paul Reitmier of Silver Creek Smokers. What it reminded me of is the tendency Aussies have to as I describe it, wanting to ‘Reinvent the Wheel ‘ with American stuff. I’ve seen this first hand with stuff like American cars I’ve owned. Had a ‘hotshot’ mechanic/local tuner decide he knew better than the guys I was dealing with at a well known US tuning shop. That led to first off a blown engine (0n the dyno!) on my ’03 Cobra Stang and later ignoring advice on the rebuild and corner cutting which led to an engine that didn’t last at all..Originally posted by dpearce View PostBack in the day, I'd soaked chips, wood chunks, even thrown some onions in the fire before, and I'd seen shows that did a variety of those things, but after finding AmazingRibs.com, reading all the articles I could, I've settled on no soaking (that was an easy one to give up), and not bothering to throw anything else, like spices or veggies (or crap) on the fire (and learned quite a few other things as well).
I'll echo what others said, older shows, especially the big TV celebrity chef shows, ran through all kinds of "niche" cooking ideas, and those get recycled on reruns, online content, old cookbooks on BBQ, you name it.
I'm sure, most of those guys/gals don't necessarily go back over their vast library of content and correct it. Knowing it's old or outdated advice and it's an older show, I just ignore most of it.
Now, in my area, they're running ads for the new season of "BBQ Brawl". I like Bobby Flay, but when I've watched this show, it's literally an entire chef's kitchen under a gazebo... Deep fryers, blenders, you name it, with full electric, all out there on the counters. It really doesn't give me BBQ vibes. Sure they've got live fire cooking going on, but the recipes and plating they make them cook and do remind more of what you'd find in an upscale restaurant.
I may watch just to see what goofy stuff they end up doing, I dunno.
Originally posted by Spinaker View PostEveryone needs more content or they are out of a job, so keep that in mind. .
Review this article and see what Meathead has to say about it. To me personally, this is all BS. The liquid must be boiled off before the wood will burn, which causes smoldering and off flavors.
There is no need to soak wood before cooking with it. Water doesn't penetrate wood. That's why they make boats from it!
Side note on the dial thermos......if they are of high quality, they are accurate. Tel Tru make a great dial thermometer. You pay for the quality and accuracy. When we are talking about dial thermos being off, we are really talking about the cheap ones you can buy for $10 at the hardware store. Plus, a smoker thermometer does not need to be perfect. a 20 F temp range is totally fine. That is not the case for a MEAT thermometer, which must be much more accurate. In that case, you'd want a fast- reading digital anyway.
Ahh yes, I am familiar with the excellent debunk article on soaking wood. It definitely reinforces things for me. My only observation is this guy doesn't distinguish between his fuel logs and whatever he might add on top. Obviously no ones going to try to start their offset with wet logs though. This is a symptom I guess of how short this segment is on a longer show, details are rushed and glanced over to a degree.
Ok so going back and checking what brand thermometer this guy uses, out of curiousity, it's 'Bar B Chef' , which seem to be like a well under $20 part, compared to say a Tel-Tru. I get using it for rough guidance. I mean I glance the ones on my Napoleon Grill and my old Weber Summit for rough temps. But I was more intrigued why this guy was incorporating 3 in row on his offsets. Personally I'd still rather have a digital ambient going keeping any eye on things for me.Last edited by OzCueLuv; May 27, 2026, 01:45 AM.
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There's a lot more than just soaking chips that were once the norm. The consensus can be wrong as many times as its right.
And this is the problem I've seen with AI. I use AI to do internet searches that are compiled in seconds, that would take me all day and not be nearly as thorough.
But too many times, AI relies on consensus. Results will tell me that " most people have found XYZ " . And all its doing in some cases is perpetuating myths.
Back in the 70's, when computing was taking over functions in business, the saying was " trash in , trash out " . That's not changed.
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Lynn Dollar One of our favorites, "Garbage in, Garbage Out". Still used daily by us "seasoned" lackeys.
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Adding vinegar hastens the demise of the smoker via rust. It's a bit of insurance for the manufacturer! And that's my 2 cents
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I do not know if burning vinegar would produce a desirable flavor in your food. I would think not. But I do use bourbon barrel oak in most of my cooks. But not just anything said to be such. It must be in a tightly sealed container. And when opened, if you are not hit in the face by a strong smell of bourbon then you might as well just use regular oak.
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